Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by kinisking » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:29 pm

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neolux wrote:There you go, this time I tried with the colors that Ajay used. I even recolored some FNF shots. So I hope you guys like this recoloring :D
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Much better. Really wish those highlights would disappear.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by z_cherub » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:53 pm

kinisking wrote::P
neolux wrote:There you go, this time I tried with the colors that Ajay used. I even recolored some FNF shots. So I hope you guys like this recoloring :D
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Much better. Really wish those highlights would disappear.
That's the biggest thing. I don't hate the colors, but the white areas that make them look like they're made of plastic are awful!

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by z_cherub » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:58 pm

Noah wrote:Didn't catch any difference, but this pic reminded me of this comparison:


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God, the first one is so damn good, curse you Toei.
I'm in the minority here, but this is one of the few times I prefer Super. I like the colors and the line thickness of the Z-esque pic, but the proportions look better on the Super screen cap here (& that rarely happens).

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

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z_cherub wrote:
Noah wrote:Didn't catch any difference, but this pic reminded me of this comparison:


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God, the first one is so damn good, curse you Toei.
I'm in the minority here, but this is one of the few times I prefer Super. I like the colors and the line thickness of the Z-esque pic, but the proportions look better on the Super screen cap here (& that rarely happens).
I think that's ROF. I personally don't mind proportions as long as it looks good, and that top one looks amazing.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by nite_jay » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:25 pm

Does anybody know how big of an impact the week off will have on the schedule in the long term? (Like will episodes look more polished in the future)

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Post by JimmyRustam » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:52 pm

Nevermind.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by z_cherub » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:40 pm

kinisking wrote:
z_cherub wrote:
Noah wrote:Didn't catch any difference, but this pic reminded me of this comparison:


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God, the first one is so damn good, curse you Toei.
I'm in the minority here, but this is one of the few times I prefer Super. I like the colors and the line thickness of the Z-esque pic, but the proportions look better on the Super screen cap here (& that rarely happens).
I think that's ROF. I personally don't mind proportions as long as it looks good, and that top one looks amazing.
It doesn't, though (IMO). His face is too long for his features and the back of his skull looks concave based on where his hair starts. It's like they took the poorer parts of the Cell saga's line art and added Super's colors...

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:42 pm

Ajay wrote:Out of those, then the original, definitely.

Funnily enough, I was playing around with recolouring today. Just went with Kai's colour palette since it's closest to the original cels by a large margin.

I took a couple of liberties with the designs, but I'm pretty happy.

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Bottom right's skin is a fraction too pink, but eh. It's only a mock-up.
Those colors aren't quite right (the Super Saiyan hair is too pinkish, and the skin is too dark).

Here's my attempt at color correcting. I also touched up the designs a bit, mainly regular Goku's jawline being narrowed, and the noses and mouths tweaked.

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The things most people, and apparently Toei don't seem to remember is that when characters turned Super Saiyan, their clothes (and sometimes their skin) get lighter. I replicated that and matched it to Kai's palette here.
It doesn't, though (IMO). His face is too long for his features and the back of his skull looks concave based on where his hair starts. It's like they took the poorer parts of the Cell saga's line art and added Super's colors...
Yeah, the fan drawing doesn't really look right at all. It doesn't match any style from back in the day, and the proportions and colors are wonky.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by neolux » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:14 pm

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Here's my attempt at color correcting. I also touched up the designs a bit, mainly regular Goku's jawline being narrowed, and the noses and mouths tweaked.

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I don't quite like your correction of SSJ2 hair color neither I liked Ajay's one... but the other corrections are great :thumbup:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:38 pm

nite_jay wrote:Does anybody know how big of an impact the week off will have on the schedule in the long term? (Like will episodes look more polished in the future)
The animators will get a little extra time, but don't expect any big changes. This isn't the first time Super has been on a break, and nothing changed when it happened that time.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

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Lord Beerus wrote:
nite_jay wrote:Does anybody know how big of an impact the week off will have on the schedule in the long term? (Like will episodes look more polished in the future)
The animators will get a little extra time, but don't expect any big changes. This isn't the first time Super has been on a break, and nothing changed when it happened that time.

Thats sort of dissapointing, but now that I remember the last time they took a break the episode looked almost the same as the preview. I was really just assuming that because the schedule's in a bit of a better place then they could add some more tweaks.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

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Metalwario64 wrote:
Here's my attempt at color correcting. I also touched up the designs a bit, mainly regular Goku's jawline being narrowed, and the noses and mouths tweaked.

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The things most people, and apparently Toei don't seem to remember is that when characters turned Super Saiyan, their clothes (and sometimes their skin) get lighter. I replicated that and matched it to Kai's palette here.
Looks amazing.
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Best one so far.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Jak-Ich'an » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:28 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:The things most people, and apparently Toei don't seem to remember is that when characters turned Super Saiyan, their clothes (and sometimes their skin) get lighter.
Actually, that's not true. At least, not in the manga:

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His gi doesn't get yellow-ish when Gokû turns Super Saiyan 3 like in the anime. The colors don't change. I appreciate that they corrected this.

Though, I really dislike Gokû's gi red-ish color in Super.

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Post by kinisking » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:02 pm

Gokus skin color has always been inconsistent in the anime... Was it always tan in the manga?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:04 pm

Jak-Ich'an wrote:
Metalwario64 wrote:The things most people, and apparently Toei don't seem to remember is that when characters turned Super Saiyan, their clothes (and sometimes their skin) get lighter.
Actually, that's not true. At least, not in the manga:

[spoiler]ImageImage[/spoiler]

His gi doesn't get yellow-ish when Gokû turns Super Saiyan 3 like in the anime. The colors don't change. I appreciate that they corrected this.

Though, I really dislike Gokû's gi red-ish color in Super.
But... it is in the anime... which Super is...

ImageImage

Even here the skin is lighter in SS, so I probably should have done so in mine. I just didn't have these images on hand at the time for a proper color comparison.

This change isn't necessarily wrong, nor as egregious as Trunks' hair, but it's not far behind, and it is a notable inconsistency.
Gokus skin color has always been inconsistent in the anime...
Only if you're looking at FUNimation's footage, or the Dragon Boxes, both which have different colors depending on the episode. In Kai and the cels it's consistent all through Z. Unless you're referring to GT.
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Post by Sodhi » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:08 pm

kinisking wrote:Gokus skin color has always been inconsistent in the anime... Was it always tan in the manga?
yep it was always tan in the original(pages that were colored).

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Shuby » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:20 pm

z_cherub wrote:
kinisking wrote::P
neolux wrote:There you go, this time I tried with the colors that Ajay used. I even recolored some FNF shots. So I hope you guys like this recoloring :D
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Much better. Really wish those highlights would disappear.
That's the biggest thing. I don't hate the colors, but the white areas that make them look like they're made of plastic are awful!
FNF looks way worse recolored. FNF should remain untouched it was perfect in terms of color usage.

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Post by Shuby » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:25 pm

I once read people comparing dragon ball entirely to Hunter x Hunter , if you're that type of a individual then please stop it can't be compared in all fronts. Hell 99% of the characters in Super and some parts of Z are shit irrelevant. :thumbdown:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue - [Updated with #51]

Post by Ajay » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:29 pm

I mean, I wasn't actually attempting to match Z, and am well aware of how the gi changes colour, I was just throwing out my own version using Kai as a reference. It turned out more like the 2008 special in the end, really.

That does look nice, though. I'd slant the eyes more if I were being really nitpicky.
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