The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Lord Beerus]

Sauza vs Captain Ginyu (equal power, unlimited stamina, no body swapping)

Man, Ginyu ain't doing nothing with his body swapping technique. Salza awakens the Force and uses his pink lightsaber to cut Ginyu in half.

[ZombieVito]

Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (2008 OVA).
Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (BoG).

No Super Saiyan or Kaioken.

[Lord Beerus]

Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (2008 OVA).
Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (BoG).

No Super Saiyan or Kaioken.

Gohan loses in both matchups.

[Doctor.]

Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (2008 OVA).
Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (BoG).

No Super Saiyan or Kaioken.

Gohan wins in the first match, since I don't think Goku improved much from the Boo arc, where I put him below that Gohan. He probably loses the second, though.

[supercat]

Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (2008 OVA).
Post Z Sword Gohan vs Goku (BoG).

No Super Saiyan or Kaioken.

First one could be pretty close in my opinion.

Goku (BoG) would trash Post Z-Sword Gohan with relative ease. Knowing Goku, he's probably crammed in quite a bit of training between the events of the Buu arc and BoG.

More battles:
Sauza vs Frieza (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Sauza vs Tien (Android arc) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tien (Buu arc) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tien (FnF) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tien (EoZ) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tien (equal power, unlimited stamina) - no Shin Kikoho

Wow, Tien and Sauza must really have some kind of grudge against each other today.

[Doctor.]

I'll ignore the first one, because I can (!) and say Tenshinhan loses all of his matches except the last one. If I recall correctly, Sauza managed to hold his own against Piccolo right? And it was supposed to be Piccolo post-fusion, a level I think none of the humans, besides Oob, ever reached. I think some pamphlet put Sauza's power level much lower, though, but in my opinion, that one didn't make much sense. He wins the last one because he has more techniques and he's way more skilled and experienced.

[Lord Beerus]

More battles:
Sauza vs Freeza (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Sauza vs Tenshinhan (Android arc) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tenshinhan (Buu arc) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tenshinhan (FnF) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tenshinhan (EoZ) - no Shin Kikoho
Sauza vs Tenshinhan (equal power, unlimited stamina) - no Shin Kikoho

Wow, Tenshinhan and Sauza must really have some kind of grudge against each other today.

This is no grudge. This is a one sided rivalry in Tien's favor because he kicks Sauza's ass in all those matchups. Sauza had a BP of 170,000 and I'm pretty certain that by the time the Androids arrived, Tien's BP reached at least the 1 million mark.

[supercat]

Tien vs Ultimate Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina, no Shin Kikoho)
Future Trunks vs Ultimate Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina, no sword)
Future Trunks vs Tien (equal power, unlimited stamina, no Shin Kikoho, no sword)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

- Well, SSJ4 Goku is at Super Vegetto tier isn't? So if Base GT Goku is at Boo-han tier, I think SSJ4 should be a lot stronger than that, don't you think?

- But do Danzenshuu include movies and specials? I've just read some parts, so I don't really know

-There's really nothing supporting that. SS4 Vegetto can be considered SS3 Vegetto tier, as Herms specifies the comic is talking about Vegetto as a whole.
-They do.

Base Kid Gohan(Post ROSAT) vs SSJ Goten(Pre-ROSAT)

Goten slaughters him, unless you think Gohan got 50x weaker during the 7 year gap from not training.

[Lord Beerus]

Tenshinhan vs Ultimate Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina, no Shin Kikoho)
Future Trunks vs Ultimate Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina, no sword)
Future Trunks vs Tenshinhan (equal power, unlimited stamina, no Shin Kikoho, no sword)

- Tein is more adaptable in combat than Gohan is, so I'm backing him to win.
- Future Trunks lethal and very savvy in battle, he defeat Gohan before he realises it.
- Same result for Future Trunks as it would be against Ultimate Gohan

[fadeddreams5]

*Steals supercat's format*

Gohan (Babidi saga) vs Future Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina)

Ultimate Gohan vs Future Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina)

Future Gohan has both his arms in both battles. lol.

[Lord Beerus]

*Steals supercat's format*

Gohan (Babidi saga) vs Future Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina)

Ultimate Gohan vs Future Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina)

Future Gohan has both his arms in both battles. lol.

Future Gohan wins both of those battles because he's much smarter and pragmatic in battle.

[supercat]

*Steals supercat's format*

Gohan (Babidi saga) vs Future Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina)

Ultimate Gohan vs Future Gohan (equal power, unlimited stamina)

Future Gohan has both his arms in both battles. lol.

I'm liking the new format!

-Future Gohan crushes his superhero counterpart and teaches him the value of keeping his skills sharp through diligent training.

-Future Gohan yet again secures another victory. He then sternly lectures his younger counterpart on the importance of mindful training, as no amount of rituals could ever produce a truly adept level of skill with the absence of such a crucial component. The speech of wisdom is concluded with a reminder to think back to Piccolo's training.

More battles:
Ultimate Gohan vs Frieza (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Future Trunks vs Piccolo (equal power, unlimited stamina)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Dabra vs. CG FPSS Goku

[Lord Beerus]

Ultimate Gohan vs Freeza (equal power, unlimited stamina)
Future Trunks vs Piccolo (equal power, unlimited stamina)

- I think Gohan would get the job done quicker. Gohan may drag out fights, but not as bad as Freeza does.
- Future Trunks ambushes Piccolo and kills him.

Dabra vs. CG FPSS Goku

This is a close fight. Unless Dabra wants to be cheap and uses stone spit, which would spell the end for Goku, I'm backing Goku to win

[supercat]

Dabra vs. CG FPSS Goku

Dabura defeats the overly confident SSJ so badly, that the proud warrior won't even consider giving this opponent a Senzu Bean.

Dabura was at the very least above Perfect Cell on the low end, but could have even been stronger than the biological android's super perfect form on the higher end. Assuming the only thing that Cell Games Gohan had over his Buu arc counterpart was his unfathomable rage, I'd say Dabura's fight against Gohan could actually be a pretty good feat in terms of supporting his power.

Goku mentions Dabura is stronger than he initially thought, so that also leaves a lot of room to place the demon king's power. We could assume that he's at least a decent amount above Perfect Cell, if that was even the form of Cell Goku was referring to.

Let's get some thoughts on this one:

Super Perfect Cell vs Dabura (Cell can only regenerate once, no turning to stone on Dabura's end)

[Doctor.]

Dabra vs. CG FPSS Goku

Dabra was owning SS2 Gohan, he has got this easily. Even if you think Gohan was a SS, I don't know why you'd think that but still, he's at the very least superior to Perfect Cell, by Goku's own admission. And Perfect Cell > SS Goku in the Cell Games.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

I just took his comparison to mean the suppressed Cell that Goku fought.

I don't know why you'd think that but still

Because he was drawn as a Super Saiyan

[Doctor.]

Even that suppressed Cell was above Goku. And later on in Gohan and Dabra's fight, Goku says Dabra was much stronger than he initially thought.

[fadeddreams5]

Even that suppressed Cell was above Goku. And later on in Gohan and Dabra's fight, Goku says Dabra was much stronger than he initially thought.

Yea, and being a Super Saiyan in that scene wouldn't make sense, lol.

I know little of the manga, but I'm sure Toriyama was at least consistent with the lightning bolts upon transformation. If he has none, and it's not mentioned, he was not a SSJ2. >.>

Super Perfect Cell vs Dabura (Cell can only regenerate once, no turning to stone on Dabura's end)

When people say Dabura, I assume Majin Dabura. But yeah, I see Perfect Cell winning under this circumstance. If Dabura could spit, he wins since Cell can only regenerate once.