The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:50 pm

Blocky wrote:
supercat wrote: Super 17 (energy absorbed) vs Nova Shenron and Ice Shenron
17 get's freezed and burned to death.
He may have raw power over the dragons though. The android seemed leagues above SSJ4 Goku, while Nova and Ice Shenron only had a moderate advantage in power over the Saiyan. Couple that with the android exclusive ability to detect vibrations in the air, and I'd say the dragons have their hands full.

Nail vs Tagoma, Zarbon (transformed), Dodoria, and Cui (all at once)

With the large gap in power between the Namekian and each of the mooks listed, I'd say even their combined efforts would amount to nothing short of failure. What are your thoughts?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sora Saiyan » Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:53 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote: Yes... he got stronger... as he kept repeatedly fighting... just like Toriyama said...
I just didn't notice that he was any stronger after the tournament, and I view him fighting countless people as training. Toriyama made it sound like a long battle could lead to Goku matching Beerus and potentially turn the tables. I just viewed the battles after the 21st tenkaichi budokai as training and it took a while til I noticed he even improved a bit.
Out of universe Toriyama didn't even know Goku was a Saiyan at that point so his new line from 2013 wasn't intended to fit, but ignore this since it's the in universe section. :P

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:09 pm

supercat wrote:Nail vs Tagoma, Zarbon (transformed), Dodoria, and Cui (all at once)
Nail stomps them all.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:27 pm

SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Mr. Buu - no turning Vegeta to candy
SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Evil Buu (against Majin Buu) - no turning Vegeta to candy

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Post by singsing » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:51 pm

supercat wrote:SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Mr. Buu - no turning Vegeta to candy
SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Evil Buu (against Majin Buu) - no turning Vegeta to candy
Buu wins both rounds. Too many techniques, too much regeneration, too much durability, too much raw power.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:53 pm

supercat wrote:SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Mr. Buu - no turning Vegeta to candy
SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Evil Buu (against Majin Buu) - no turning Vegeta to candy
Buu should win rather easily in both scenarios. Pure Evil Buu was clearly a lot stronger than Good Buu, and IMO, Good Buu is a lot stronger than Vegeta based on his performance against Pure Buu.

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Post by ZombieVito » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:02 pm

supercat wrote:SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Mr. Buu - no turning Vegeta to candy
SSJ 2 Vegeta (with Majin boost) vs Evil Buu (against Majin Buu) - no turning Vegeta to candy
Vegeta gets one shotted both times.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:08 pm

UuB (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Goku)
UuB (EoZ) vs FPSSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
Uub (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Gohan)
UuB (EoZ) vs Bojack (suppressed)

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:08 pm

supercat wrote:UuB (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Goku)
UuB (EoZ) vs FPSSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
Uub (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Gohan)
UuB (EoZ) vs Bojack (suppressed)
He wins all of them imo.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:15 pm

GT Base Gotenks vs Base Rild
Uub (BoGT) vs Base Rild
Uub (Baby Saga) vs Second Form Rild

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:19 pm

supercat wrote:GT Base Gotenks vs Base Rild
Uub (BoGT) vs Base Rild
Uub (Baby Saga) vs Second Form Rild
- GT Base Gotenks wins. Nothing to really back that up, more of a gut feeling.
- Uub gets slaughtered. Rild > SMCS > Neji > Rivet > Nutt > SS Goku [BoGT] > Base Goku (BoGT) ~ Uub (BoGT)
- Uub most likely wins. I'd put him around SS2 Vegeta [Baby saga].

Here's my matchup:

SS3 Goku [End of Z] vs. Base Vegetto [Buu saga]
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Blocky » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:24 pm

supercat wrote:GT Base Gotenks vs Base Rild
Uub (BoGT) vs Base Rild
Uub (Baby Saga) vs Second Form Rild
Rild might loses to the three.

LSSJ Raditz vs SSJG Kid Gohan (Saiyan Sega)

MSSJ Goku vs Olibu

Filler Yamcha vs Pikkon.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:46 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SS3 Goku [End of Z] vs. Base Vegetto [Buu saga]
Vegetto sneezes at Goku and he gets disintegrated.
Blocky wrote:LSSJ Raditz vs SSJG Kid Gohan (Saiyan Sega)

MSSJ Goku vs Olibu

Filler Yamcha vs Paikuhan.
- SSJG Kid Gohan wins with great ease.
- Olibu gets slaughtered. Olibu got stomped by Pikkon, who in turn lost to MSSJ Goku.
- Pikkon kicks Yamcha's ass

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Post by Sandubadear » Sat Jul 04, 2015 6:48 pm

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:02 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SS3 Goku [End of Z] vs. Base Vegetto [Buu saga]
I think this could have more than one answer.

If BoG and FnF precede EoZ as we know it, then Goku should be able to trash any form of Vegetto.

If we follow the original string of events with the exclusion of BoG and FnF, then Goku gets one-shotted.

Blocky wrote:Rild might loses to the three.

LSSJ Raditz vs SSJG Kid Gohan (Saiyan Sega)

MSSJ Goku vs Olibu

Filler Yamcha vs Paikuhan.
-SSG Kid Gohan would trump his weakling uncle and make him really regret even coming to Earth.

-MSSJ Goku tells Olibu to stick to opponents who are closer to his level of power, like Yamcha.

On a serious note, MSSJ Goku destroys Olibu with at the most a moderate amount of difficulty.

-Filler Yamcha doesn't realize that his victory over Olibu was merely staged by Krillin to help the desert bandit get over his insecurities while teaching him how to be humble. Not wanting to see his buddy get humiliated again, Krillin confesses to Yamcha about the little act. He also proceeds to tell him that unlike Olibu, Paikuhan won't be as willing to show his humble side. Yamcha laughs and tells Krillin that he's jealous because he was able to trash a fighter who is basically on par with Cell, who if he recalls was able to immobilize Krillin with one kick. Without wasting a second Yamcha charges Paikuhan and ends the day realizing that perhaps baseball may be a better fit for him after all.

My battle:
Final Form Frieza (FnF) vs 2,000 Kid Buus (no candy beam)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:06 pm

supercat wrote:UuB (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Goku)
UuB (EoZ) vs FPSSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
Uub (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Gohan)
UuB (EoZ) vs Bojack (suppressed)
Shouldn't the last two movies confirm Uub as above Buu arc characters? Sure, Goku was holding back in their fight, but Uub had him on the ropes once or twice. He should one-shot all of these guys.
Blocky wrote:MSSJ Goku vs Olibu.
Goku wins easily. Burning Shoot notwithstanding, base Goku was beating Paikuhan before he took off his weighted clothes, while Olibu accepted absolute defeat after a competitive match with still weighted Paikuhan.

Realistically, I would put my money on Olibu if he were fighting Cell-Games base Vegeta or Trunks.
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Post by Captain Space » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:10 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:
supercat wrote:UuB (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Goku)
UuB (EoZ) vs FPSSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
Uub (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Gohan)
UuB (EoZ) vs Bojack (suppressed)
Shouldn't the last two movies confirm Uub as above Buu arc characters? Sure, Goku was holding back in their fight, but Uub had him on the ropes once or twice. He should one-shot all of these guys.
I think EoZ's status as...a thing in its current incarnation is possibly a little muddied in light of the new movies. It might be better to make a distinction between an EoZ that follows the manga only, and an EoZ that follows BoG and such. (Since it's not impossible that this new god-mega-arc is gonna, in like a decade or so, make it to EoZ and rewrite that in light of all this new stuff. Given that EoZ was originally written with no knowledge/intention of the god stuff.)
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:11 pm

supercat wrote:Final Form Freeza (FnF) vs 2,000 Kid Buus (no candy beam)
Freeza wipes out the army of Kid Boos by just coughing in their direction.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by supercat » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:21 pm

Captain Space wrote:
In Brightest Day wrote:
supercat wrote:UuB (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Goku)
UuB (EoZ) vs FPSSJ Gohan (Cell Games)
Uub (EoZ) vs Perfect Cell (against Gohan)
UuB (EoZ) vs Bojack (suppressed)
Shouldn't the last two movies confirm Uub as above Buu arc characters? Sure, Goku was holding back in their fight, but Uub had him on the ropes once or twice. He should one-shot all of these guys.
I think EoZ's status as...a thing in its current incarnation is possibly a little muddied in light of the new movies. It might be better to make a distinction between an EoZ that follows the manga only, and an EoZ that follows BoG and such. (Since it's not impossible that this new god-mega-arc is gonna, in like a decade or so, make it to EoZ and rewrite that in light of all this new stuff. Given that EoZ was originally written with no knowledge/intention of the god stuff.)
Where it stands now, when I refer to EoZ, I'm excluding the events of BoG / FnF, simply because there hasn't been any indication that the events of the new movies are connected to the EoZ that we know. If BoG and FnF precede EoZ, then Uub would be stronger than Final Form Frieza (FnF) based on how well he did against the same Base Goku who was able to humiliate the tyrant.

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Chaozu (Buu arc) vs Guldo (no time freezing)
Chaozu (Buu arc) vs Nappa

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jul 04, 2015 7:27 pm

supercat wrote:Chaozu (Buu arc) vs Guldo (no time freezing)
Chaozu (Buu arc) vs Nappa
Chaozu wins both battles. I think he reached at least Nail level strength after training with King Kai. And constantly training with Tien would only boost his strength even more. I'd reckon he would have reached the hundred thousand threshold by the time of the Majin Boo arc.

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