FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

[jjgp1112]

If their going to use the original dub why in the hell not use the original opening and closing credits.

Wouldn't they then have an opening video that the Japanese audio wouldn't fit to? Since they're not using seamless branching.

Yeah, basically. The dub intros and outros are shorter than the Japanese versions, and they don't use branching or alternate angles anymore, so they have to compromise.

[ect5150]

and they don't use branching or alternate angles anymore, so they have to compromise.

Or... not be slack?

It's not like each episode has a variety of issues... it's just the front and back to each. Should be a pretty repetitive process.

[Pokewhiz7]

I sure wished to God somebody could explain this shit man. If their going to use the original dub why in the hell not use the original opening and closing credits. Damn man that shoots the hell out of the nostalgic factor

Here, this should be nostalgic for you, otherwise, use the BDs/Dragon Boxes to watch the show properly.

[Super Sayian Prime]

I sure wished to God somebody could explain this shit man. If their going to use the original dub why in the hell not use the original opening and closing credits. Damn man that shoots the hell out of the nostalgic factor

What's on these sets isn't the original dub anyways.

[bkev]

I would imagine it might be in the sets somewhere at one point, if they're getting all this dub-based stuff for the Capsule Corp. extras.

[samuraix123]

I know this isn't the original ocean dub. But i thought this was Funimation original dub?

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

I know this isn't the original ocean dub. But i thought this was Funimation original dub?

Nope, it's the same dub that's on the orange bricks and Dragon Boxes. The one with redubbed voices (Chris Sabat redubbing Vegeta with his current "gruffer" voice, replacing the old higher pitched nasally voice he used to mimick Brian Drummonds take, John Burgmier replacing Chris Cason as Tenshinhan, etc.).

[jjgp1112]

Well, after the Friez­a saga, it's basically the exact same dub as it aired on TV, give or take a few lines as a result of them using an older audio tape from before certain changes were made (as well as Super Buu having a higher pitched voice due to the filter used to deepen Justin Cook's voice not being present yet).

[jpdbzrulz4sure]

Well, after the Friez­a saga, it's basically the exact same dub as it aired on TV, give or take a few lines as a result of them using an older audio tape from before certain changes were made (as well as Super Buu having a higher pitched voice due to the filter used to deepen Justin Cook's voice not being present yet).

I know. I was referring to the dub as a whole.

[KiddoCabbusses]

So, to sort out some of the confusing statements in this;
Basically, the Blu-Rays are everything the Orange Bricks should've been from the start in terms of the English dub of DBZ, yes?

I'll gladly recommend them to my friends who have BD players. I myself don't have one, though, and collected the DBoxes anyway.

[Metalwario64]

Basically, the Blu-Rays are everything the Orange Bricks should've been from the start in terms of the English dub of DBZ, yes?

The dub on here is exactly the same as the dub on the season sets.

[KiddoCabbusses]

Well, I wasn't referring to just audio-wise, but in terms of the video remastering as well.
(And yeah, I understand folks may not like the dub audio, but obviously the bricks weren't marketed to the folks who didn't like the dub.)

[Metalwario64]

Well, I wasn't referring to just audio-wise, but in terms of the video remastering as well.

From what I've seen, that's the case. The footage itself just seems to be a bit dark, but considering the much lower contrast levels on this footage, it would appear that their film is just naturally darker, so there's not anything they can do about some of the darker details that are lost (like Raditz's blue hair, which looks black on here as it's always looked on FUNimation products, or details in his scouter being lost due to it being too dark), but for FUNimation's footage, this seems to be the best it's going to ever look.

[Pokewhiz7]

Well, I wasn't referring to just audio-wise, but in terms of the video remastering as well.

From what I've seen, that's the case. The footage itself just seems to be a bit dark, but considering the much lower contrast levels on this footage, it would appear that their film is just naturally darker, so there's not anything they can do about some of the darker details that are lost (like Raditz's blue hair, which looks black on here as it's always looked on FUNimation products, or details in his scouter being lost due to it being too dark), but for FUNimation's footage, this seems to be the best it's going to ever look.

This is probably the best the series will ever look unless Toei does a BD remaster using their generation zero film print.

[Puto]

And if they do, it'll probably cost half your soul to buy.

[saiyanprimalforce]

I sure wished to God somebody could explain this shit man. If their going to use the original dub why in the hell not use the original opening and closing credits. Damn man that shoots the hell out of the nostalgic factor

Here, this should be nostalgic for you, otherwise, use the BDs/Dragon Boxes to watch the show properly.

Ah, the old Captain Ginyu DVDs. Now that brings back some memories. Heck, I didn't know they were that cheap. When I get some extra money sometime, I may have to purchase the last 3 Freeza dvds I never got, as well as the Garlic Junior stuff. Basically just so I'd actually have all all the original dub unaltered. But, yeah, really, I don't see the point in complaining about the blu rays not having that GOD-AWFUL, embarrassing Faulconer opening. I mean, Rock the Dragon is incredibly chessy and whatnot, but at least it's got a bit of a charm. I don't know what's worse, the Faulconer opening theme, or the footage they edited it too.

Well, I wasn't referring to just audio-wise, but in terms of the video remastering as well.

From what I've seen, that's the case. The footage itself just seems to be a bit dark, but considering the much lower contrast levels on this footage, it would appear that their film is just naturally darker, so there's not anything they can do about some of the darker details that are lost (like Raditz's blue hair, which looks black on here as it's always looked on FUNimation products, or details in his scouter being lost due to it being too dark), but for FUNimation's footage, this seems to be the best it's going to ever look.

This is probably the best the series will ever look unless Toei does a BD remaster using their generation zero film print.

And if they do, it'll probably cost half your soul to buy.

I'd give them all my soul if they gave us better sound masters. . .

[Ashura]

That's the other question I had, but since you've now gotten the disk you've pseudo answered the question... but to double check.

He claimed there was macroblocking that was apparently quite noticeable while watching. Would it be correct to assume he is mistaking larger 'grain blobs' for macroblocking and there isn't in fact any such macroblocking that would be affected by pumping up the bitrate a bit more?

I need to watch more than a couple episodes, but it didn't seem all that noticeable. Maybe very slightly once in a while, but it seemed to be mostly grain to me. With extra grainy footage you have to worry about blocking more just because to the encoder's eyes the video is always different even when frames aren't moving, but even the high action scenes I watched of Piccolo and Goku vs. Raditz looked fine. Even if there's minor blocking, I don't know how much better the little bit of a higher bitrate would've done.

[jjgp1112]

But, yeah, really, I don't see the point in complaining about the blu rays not having that GOD-AWFUL, embarrassing Faulconer opening.

This is just a wild guess, but maybe those people are complaining because...they actually...like it?

[KiddoCabbusses]

I think it's not so much about people liking the Toonami-era quick DBZ OPEDs or "Rock the Dragon", but more that people somehow expected them because of FUNi's blatantly misleading marketing of this as "The Original U.S. Version".

This is neither the FUNi/Saban/Ocean edited-only Seasons 1+2 or FUNi's early Season 3 dub. FUNi should never have used the key term "THE ORIGINAL" to advertise these Blu-Rays. I don't even understand why they did it, even. It was not necessary to sell the product.

[funrush]

But, yeah, really, I don't see the point in complaining about the blu rays not having that GOD-AWFUL, embarrassing Faulconer opening.

This is just a wild guess, but maybe those people are complaining because...they actually...like it?

I know I love Cha-la over almost any opening for that portion of the show, but I prefer the original Faulconer opening http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4teO60UO ... re=related, which actually does have some decency compared to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKLt78i5 ... re=related, which is a snoozer.