FUNimation DBZ TV Blu-ray Official On-Going Thread

[saiyanprimalforce]

But, yeah, really, I don't see the point in complaining about the blu rays not having that GOD-AWFUL, embarrassing Faulconer opening.

This is just a wild guess, but maybe those people are complaining because...they actually...like it?

Which makes me question that person's taste in music. . .but to each their own, as they say. I mean, hell, it's not like I'm anti-Faulconer or anything(otherwise, why would I be making an alternate score to Kai with his music?), but honestly, a few pieces of his music are pretty downright terrible. The opening being a big offender, the closing theme(which sounds nothing more than trash cans being literally banged), Bulma and the Frog(I have such a passionate hatred for that one), the King Kai theme. Eh, you get my point. I think it's pretty lucky they had Cartoon Network to do their Toonami intros, cause yea, CN managed to make much, MUCH more effective intros to the show in about the same timeframe as the Faulconer intro.

But ignoring all that, I just don't really see the point in complaining, since if you want the pure nostalgia of the old Z, as Pokewiz suggested, just get the original dvds in all their glory. But speaking of the blu ray opening, still lame they dont' just use Head Cha la. But even if I were to get these sets, it wouldn't be for the english dub, so it's a moot point.

In the end, just my opinion I suppose. . .

I think it's not so much about people liking the Toonami-era quick DBZ OPEDs or "Rock the Dragon", but more that people somehow expected them because of FUNi's blatantly misleading marketing of this as "The Original U.S. Version".

This is neither the FUNi/Saban/Ocean edited-only Seasons 1+2 or FUNi's early Season 3 dub. FUNi should never have used the key term "THE ORIGINAL" to advertise these Blu-Rays. I don't even understand why they did it, even. It was not necessary to sell the product.

That I can agree with. I was always disappointed they put the redubbed lines in with the Faulconer mix. I mean, hey, the crappy voice acting and the Faulconer music go together hand in hand. I thought they should have left their revisioning in the 5.1 jpn bgm track, since that was the *newness* at the time. But yeah, it's confusing that they say *Original US broadcast*, when it's clearly not. Technically though, they can say that about episodes 1-53 of their version, since it retains all the original ultimate uncut dialogue(except for that one Vegeta-Kaioken line), and the Nathan Jones music. After you get into season 3 territory through, yeah, kind of misleading.

[dragonpiece]

Would it be ok if I posted the DBZ Blu Ray dvd to Blu Ray feature?

[Puto]

That I can agree with. I was always disappointed they put the redubbed lines in with the Faulconer mix. I mean, hey, the crappy voice acting and the Faulconer music go together hand in hand. I thought they should have left their revisioning in the 5.1 jpn bgm track, since that was the *newness* at the time. But yeah, it's confusing that they say *Original US broadcast*, when it's clearly not. Technically though, they can say that about episodes 1-53 of their version, since it retains all the original ultimate uncut dialogue(except for that one Vegeta-Kaioken line), and the Nathan Jones music. After you get into season 3 territory through, yeah, kind of misleading.

I think they're saying it because of Kai having a new dub -- they want to reassure people that no, they didn't redo Z with the Kai cast, these are the voices you're nostalgic over including granny Freeza and whatnot.

[saiyanprimalforce]

That I can agree with. I was always disappointed they put the redubbed lines in with the Faulconer mix. I mean, hey, the crappy voice acting and the Faulconer music go together hand in hand. I thought they should have left their revisioning in the 5.1 jpn bgm track, since that was the *newness* at the time. But yeah, it's confusing that they say *Original US broadcast*, when it's clearly not. Technically though, they can say that about episodes 1-53 of their version, since it retains all the original ultimate uncut dialogue(except for that one Vegeta-Kaioken line), and the Nathan Jones music. After you get into season 3 territory through, yeah, kind of misleading.

I think they're saying it because of Kai having a new dub -- they want to reassure people that no, they didn't redo Z with the Kai cast, these are the voices you're nostalgic over including granny Freeza and whatnot.

Which is smart on there part to differtenciate between the two blu-ray releases of the series. . .but, you still are not, in fact, getting the original season 3 version voices(well, some of them, anyway). I mean, who doesn't want watch this scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUsZUa1lToc of Chris Sabat taking a dump in HD glory, and lossless Faulconer stero audio? False advertising man, false advertising!

[Gaffer Tape]

He's right. Even on the orange bricks (which I admit I never really kept up with, for obvious reasons), I always assumed the 2.0 track was, as it said, the broadcast track (although even that would be a tad misleading since the uncut version wasn't broadcast) without the alterations. I mean, hell, the dub doesn't matter to me, but I am very surprised dub fans aren't sticking by their dub and requesting this be released in its original form. I mean, here I am, haven't watched the dub in a decade, and I have one over on FUNimation because I do have the entire broadcast dub of seasons 3 and 4 on tapes I recorded off of Toonami! =P

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Would it be ok if I posted the DBZ Blu Ray dvd to Blu Ray feature?

I think every has seen that already. It was shown at Otakon months ago then made it's way to youtube. FUNimation even posted it DragonBallZ.com http://www.dragonballz.com/AD-Takeover/ADPage.html

[DanielGClapp]

[I think every has seen that already. It was shown at Otakon months ago then made it's way to youtube. FUNimation even posted it DragonBallZ.com http://www.dragonballz.com/AD-Takeover/ADPage.html

Is it just me, or do those comparisons at the bottom make the DBoxes look dark and blurry? Not only that, but the shot of Gohan looks misleading for the orange bricks. It seems to not be cropped enough. I remember the orange bricks being cropped way more than that.

[Vegeta1984]

Would it be ok if I posted the DBZ Blu Ray dvd to Blu Ray feature?

Any chance for the blu-ray menu.. Would love to see it in action...

[Jon Jon]

Wow, the video quality is phenomenal. It's actually really tempting.

[Ashura]

Would it be ok if I posted the DBZ Blu Ray dvd to Blu Ray feature?

I think every has seen that already. It was shown at Otakon months ago then made it's way to youtube. FUNimation even posted it DragonBallZ.com http://www.dragonballz.com/AD-Takeover/ADPage.html

The Blu-Ray version is longer, I think. Since it's actually a feature of the BR, I would be reticent about posting the full thing, though.

[kemuri07]

I think it's not so much about people liking the Toonami-era quick DBZ OPEDs or "Rock the Dragon", but more that people somehow expected them because of FUNi's blatantly misleading marketing of this as "The Original U.S. Version".

This is neither the FUNi/Saban/Ocean edited-only Seasons 1+2 or FUNi's early Season 3 dub. FUNi should never have used the key term "THE ORIGINAL" to advertise these Blu-Rays. I don't even understand why they did it, even. It was not necessary to sell the product.

But it's not really a blatant lie as it doesn't specifically mention the dubs. Technically, are you correct? Yeah. But the beauty of advertisement is that you can sell a half-truth, and spin it however you want. That's what the term "original" is: a half-truth.

With that said: shouldn't these sets include the the early season 3 dub? Unless I'm mistaken, and I have a defective S3 of DBZ, the 2005 redubs (unless there is another redub that I'm unaware of) during the whole "Uncut" series of dvds only covered the Saiyan saga. In the orange dvd sets, season 3 onward should be the early Funi dubs. Right?

[Levlik]

With the amount of crazy Youtube comments I've seen, it seems as if a lot of the younger audience who got into the series around the mid-2000s doesn't even realize the 1996 FUNi dub with the Ocean cast IS the original US dub, let alone having anything to do with FUNimation at all. I think FUNi kind of realizes this. The majority of the US audience either prefers the Japanese version or they prefer the in-house cast. Nobody's really pining for the 1996 dub to be re-released and it wouldn't be a deal breaker for anybody.

As someone who wholly outgrew the English version, whichever dub is on these discs is kind of a moot point to me, but I would imagine FUNi still has the production rights to put the original dub out once Pioneer disappeared from the picture and it'd be a nice little extra for people whose nostalgia for English DBZ lies wholly with the original dub. I'll admit I was crossing my fingers for them to put it in, but I knew it was never going to happen.

[kemuri07]

With the amount of crazy Youtube comments I've seen, it seems as if a lot of the younger audience who got into the series around the mid-2000s doesn't even realize the 1996 FUNi dub with the Ocean cast IS the original US dub, let alone having anything to do with FUNimation at all. I think FUNi kind of realizes this. The majority of the US audience either prefers the Japanese version or they prefer the in-house cast. Nobody's really pining for the 1996 dub to be re-released and it wouldn't be a deal breaker for anybody.

As someone who wholly outgrew the English version, whichever dub is on these discs is kind of a moot point to me, but I would imagine FUNi still has the production rights to put the original dub out once Pioneer disappeared from the picture and it'd be a nice little extra for people whose nostalgia for English DBZ lies wholly with the original dub. I'll admit I was crossing my fingers for them to put it in, but I knew it was never going to happen.

Agreed. I can see some of the episodes of the Ocean dub, being put in as extras in some "super special awesome totally rad anniversary edition" of DBZ.

[Jaruka]

Right... Well, after being a Dragonball Z fan since it first aired on these isles and never before purchasing a copy of the DVDs, I think this'll have to be my first purchase in relation to Dragonball media. I have all the old Ocean/Original dubs on a HDD (I'm British and needed the complete episodes from Ocean for nostalgia purposes) but I haven't bought any and I think this has impressed me enough to warrant my buying it.

I mean, this looks far better than the DragonBox sets and even though I personally think the orange boxes look okay thanks to this forum I realise their shortfalls (though they are being released in the UK so curiosity might force me to buy a set) the only issue I have is that by my own math, there will be 16 Blu-rays needed to complete this project (bringing the complete set to a grand total of around £270 for me!) and I worry that the project wont be completed and then I'll be without a complete set of the series and will need to mish-mash together other boxsets to round this off.

Also, whilst I'm posting here, if I was to buy these sets what would you recommend is the best way to purchase all the movies/specials? I know there are blu-rays of the movies but I've heard bad things (though memory doesn't serve me well as to what they are...) also, are the movies region-free and can I expect these to be region-free or will I have to find a way around it?

Thanks guys!

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

The Movie Blu Rays seem to be Region A only, sadly, and had the same processes applied to them as the bricks. It's generally agreed that the movies took the process better than the TV show even by its detractors, as far as I know, particularly on the Blu Rays given that they're actually being displayed in 1080p

http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... &start=240

The 12th and 13th pages of this topic have comparison shots between Funi singles, Double Features (Although I would think DVD footage is used), with a couple from the Dragon Box.

[Soul]

I picked up Level 1.1 at Hastings today, guess they broke the street date. Interestingly? I got 3 of those Vegeta art cards. Cool...I guess.

[Ashura]

To play devil's advocate, are we even really at the point where there's much reversioning in the US music track? Isn't most of the redone stuff mid-way through the Freeza arc?

If you really wanted to, you guys could petition for it and bug Funimation to add it. But then, I think if there was actually a concerted effort (and not just people complaining it's not there) to get them to add stuff to the BR, it should be focused on adding alternate angles for the title/cards and adding in the NEPs to be honest.

Just my two cents.

[Pokewhiz7]

If you really wanted to, you guys could petition for it and bug Funimation to add it.

To add what?

[AgitoZ]

If you really wanted to, you guys could petition for it and bug Funimation to add it.

To add what?

The Faulconer score...?

[Gaffer Tape]

I believe Ashura is referring to the actual broadcast track without re-recorded dialogue, not what FUNimation claims is the broadcast track.