The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Noah]

New battle:

Universe 7 Four-Armed Red Monster x Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Arc)

[singsing]

Late, this thread moves so fast now...

How is Alien X in any way truly omnipotent though? Isn't he at best nigh omnipotent? I mean, the very fact that he has weaknesses means he isn't all-powerful.

It's hard to describe it to be honest

I really don't think he is. Alien X is nigh-omnipotent at best from what I'm hearing about him.

[Hugo Boss]

Universe 7 Four-Armed Red Monster x Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Arc)

I like that monster's fighting style, but I doubt he is stronger than Freeza. In a way he resembles Abocado brothers, but more ruthless.

[Captain Space]

Universe 7 Four-Armed Red Monster x Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Arc)

I like that monster's fighting style, but I doubt he is stronger than Freeza. In a way he resembles Abocado brothers, but more ruthless.

Yeah, I doubt there'd be some random alien that's stronger than Freeza just hanging about on some feral world.

[Sora Saiyan]

New battle:

Universe 7 Four-Armed Red Monster x Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Arc)

Haha. There's actually no way of knowing, but going by my head logic there shouldn't be anybody out there stronger than Freeza, but you never know. I'll give it to SSJ Goku for that reason, and for the fact there wasnt enough shown.

[Noah]

Universe 7 Four-Armed Red Monster x Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Arc)

I like that monster's fighting style, but I doubt he is stronger than Freeza. In a way he resembles Abocado brothers, but more ruthless.

Yeah, I doubt there'd be some random alien that's stronger than Freeza just hanging about on some feral world.

I agree with you guys, Freeza is not called the "Universe Emperor" for nothing, I guess

[AvatarReiko]

Base Vegeta(Pre-BOG) vs SSJ Trunks & SSJ Goten(Post-ROSAT)

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Base Vegeta(Pre-BOG) vs SSJ Trunks & SSJ Goten(Post-ROSAT)

Goten alone in an embarrassing stomp.

However, Super Saiyan Vegeta should be able to take both of the kids by the time of Battle of Gods, in my opinion.

[supercat]

22nd WMAT Tenshinhan vs. Cymbal
Mutaito v Oozaru Goku(BoS)
Kaio vs. Appule
Imperfect Cell(Post Thousands Civilians Power-Up) vs. SSJ Goten(Pre-RoSaT)
SSJ Bardock vs. 1st Form Freeza

-Tien makes quick work of the evil Namekian spawn.

-After casually dodging the big ape's moves, Mutaito finishes him off in a matter of seconds.

-Appule's incompetence gets him killed.

-Could be close, but I'd say the odds are in Imperfect Cell's favor. SSJ Goten (post RoSaT), however, should be able to turn the tables on the biological android.

-Assuming Bardock benefited from pretty generous Zenkai, I'd say he has a good chance of claiming victory.

New battle:

Universe 7 Four-Armed Red Monster x Super Saiyan Goku (Namek Arc)

While we have no way of accurately comparing the two, I'm inclined to believe that Goku has this in the bag. As the others have said, it seems a bit unusual for some random alien to possess more power than Frieza.

Base Vegeta(Pre-BOG) vs SSJ Trunks & SSJ Goten(Post-ROSAT)

Vegeta gets destroyed almost instantly. Considering how Base Goku (BoG) was still below Frieza, it seems very plausible to believe that no base Saiyan (Pre-BoG) has what it takes to keep up with a Super Saiyan (with the exclusion of SSJ Bardock).

[Galan007]

70% Beerus vs. Golden Freeza (peak)

*Assume Freeza has overcome his Golden form's rapid ki-consumption, and can sustain max power for an extended period of time.

[supercat]

70% Beerus vs. Golden Freeza (peak)

*Assume Freeza has overcome his Golden form's rapid ki-consumption, and can sustain max power for an extended period of time.

Frieza wins with a moderate level of difficulty. Although SSGSS Goku was already implied to have more or less surpassed 70% of Beerus' full power, he was still overwhelmed by Golden Frieza during his peak. Had it not been for his stamina, the tyrant would have been able to annihilate the Saiyan, and exact his revenge as planned.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (post-RoSaT) vs. Dabra

[Noah]

Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (post-RoSaT) vs. Dabra

Dabura would win that easily. I don't know what could possible change in RoSaT that could make SSJ Kid Trunks be above him.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (post-RoSaT) vs. Dabra

Dabura would win that easily. I don't know what could possible change in RoSaT that could make SSJ Kid Trunks be above him.

Do you believe Gohan was a Super Saiyan or Super Saiyan 2 against Dabra?

[supercat]

Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (post-RoSaT) vs. Dabra

Without knowing what form of Cell Goku was referring to, we won't know exactly how powerful Dabura is. He could be somewhere in between Perfect Cell and Super Perfect Cell, or stronger than both.

Regardless, even being on the lower end of that spectrum would be enough to score a win against SSJ Kid Trunks, who I would say is sitting somewhere between Grade 2 SSJ Vegeta (Cell Games) and a Cell Jr.

Because I personally find a lot more feasibility in placing the young fighter much closer to his father's Grade 2 SSJ form than a Cell Jr., I'd say Dabura wins this without exerting the slightest bit of effort.

[Doctor.]

Whether Gohan was a SS or SS2 is irrelevant, I doubt Trunks would be above SS Gohan (after training with Goten). Even if he was, so was Dabra.

[supercat]

Personally, I think Trunks' only chance to defeat Dabura is if he becomes Gotenks.

With that said, if Goku was in fact comparing Dabura to Super Perfect Cell, Gotenks would need to go Super Saiyan to confidently claim victory. Whether it's before or after training in the RoSaT, Base Gotenks is no where near an SSJ2 tier fighter in my opinion.

On the contrary, if Dabura is only marginally above Perfect Cell (suppressed), I'd say Base Gotenks (post RoSaT) actually has a chance.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Kaio vs. Saiyan Saga Piccolo
Crane Hermit vs. 23rd WMAT Chi-Chi
3 Moori Namekian Warriors vs. Nappa
Raditz vs. Saiyan Saga Yamcha
Post-RoSaT Piccolo & Post-RoSaT SSJ Future Trunks vs. Exhausted Perfect Cell(after fight with FPSSJ Goku)

[dbgtFO]

Super Saiyan Kid Trunks (post-RoSaT) vs. Dabra

Dabra one-shots.

Kaio vs. Saiyan Saga Piccolo
Crane Hermit vs. 23rd WMAT Chi-Chi
3 Moori Namekian Warriors vs. Nappa
Raditz vs. Saiyan Saga Yamcha
Post-RoSaT Piccolo & Post-RoSaT SSJ Future Trunks vs. Exhausted Perfect Cell(after fight with FPSSJ Goku)

1. Kaio conjures a hammer and beats Piccolo silly.
2. Chi Chi forces the hermit back and he becomes desperate and uses his Dodonpa, unfortunately Chi Chi evades it and takes out the fallen hermit afterwards.
3. Nappa smashes each and everyone of them into the ground.
4. Both somehow manage to die.
5. Cell one-shots Piccolo and after having a good fight with Trunks decides to stop the charade and so he powers up a bit, instantly one-shotting Trunks.

[supercat]

Kaio vs. Saiyan Saga Piccolo
Crane Hermit vs. 23rd WMAT Chi-Chi
3 Moori Namekian Warriors vs. Nappa
Raditz vs. Saiyan Saga Yamcha
Post-RoSaT Piccolo & Post-RoSaT SSJ Future Trunks vs. Exhausted Perfect Cell(after fight with FPSSJ Goku)

-Kaio vs. Saiyan Saga Piccolo

I'd say since their power levels are relatively on par with one another, experience would be the determining factor here.

*****After suffering a humiliating defeat at the hands of Nappa, Piccolo is determined to redeem himself. However, King Kai has no intention of training the Namekian, unless he is presented with a worthy joke. Unwilling to comply, Piccolo unleashes a rapid combo of punches and kicks at the legendary master. After casually maneuvering past his soon to be student's attacks, King Kai drills his entire body into Piccolo's abdomen. Although pushed back by the impact, Piccolo tries to counterattack by slamming his elbow on the overseer's back. To his dismay, he misses by a mile and is instantly surprised by his opponent zooming right past him as an aura of energy. After making a full round trip around the small planet, King Kai rushes straight towards Piccolo, while still maintaining his aura. Hoping to land a direct hit, Piccolo fires a Makankosappo at the bright light of energy heading his way. Seconds before the attack makes contact, King Kai dodges by flying up in a straight line. He then retaliates by spiraling downwards at Piccolo. Not knowing how to react, the Namekian looks up with fear and embraces himself for the attack. To his surprise, King Kai stops inches away from his face, gives him a serious look, and then bursts out into a bout of laughter. Piccolo is then commended for his power, but is still challenged with the task of having to formulate a humorous joke.*****

-Crane Hermit vs. 23rd WMAT Chi-Chi

Crane Hermit should be able to take this with some difficulty. Not only is he more seasoned, he should also have a marginal advantage in power.

-3 Moori Namekian Warriors vs. Nappa

If Nappa plays his cards right, and proceeds to go for a quick win, he should be able to easily take each one out. However, because the Namekians would be taking every aspect of the fight seriously, even a hint of horseplay would lead to Nappa getting overwhelmed by the trio's collaborative effort.

-Raditz vs. Saiyan Saga Yamcha

Despite being cheap shotted by the Saibamen, it seemed to me that Yamcha held a slight edge over the little alien. Although that doesn't necessarily guarantee the desert bandit an easy win against Raditz, I'd say the former does in fact have a subtle advantage in power in addition to a higher caliber of combat skills. By the time of Nappa and Vegeta's arrival, I'm personally inclined to believe that only Chaozu and Yajirobe didn't have the privilege of surpassing Raditz.

-Post-RoSaT Piccolo & Post-RoSaT SSJ Future Trunks vs. Exhausted Perfect Cell(after fight with FPSSJ Goku)

I'd say the odds are still in Cell's favor, but if Trunks could actually land some hits as a Grade 3 SSJ, he should be able to dish out some heavy damage.