The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Doctor.]

Golden Freeza, Goku, Vegeta, and Beerus vs Whis

I can see them getting stomp because Freeza's pride and cockiness, Saiyan Pride, and Beerus's...need for competition.

We rarely use personality in these versus battles

Fight would go like Goku & Vegeta vs Whis in F went, until Freeza gets super mad and decides to blow up whatever rock they're fighting on, killing Goku and Vegeta in the process and leaving only him and Beerus to be easily knocked out by Whis.

[Lord Gogeta]

What about Super Baby 2 VS Base Vegito?

[Lord Beerus]

What about Super Baby 2 VS Base Vegito?

Vegetto gets wrecked. Super Baby Vegeta 2 is at least Super Vegetto level.

[Captain Space]

What about Super Baby 2 VS Base Vegito?

Canonically Vegetto had to go SSJ to beat Buuhan, and Baby is apparently supposed to be stronger than anyone they previously fought, so...Baby, I guess.

(Then again GT does follow a lot of movie/anime stuff, and in anime filler base Vegetto was kicking Buuhan's ass too, so...uh? Probably still Baby.)

[SSJ God Gogeta]

What about Super Baby 2 VS Base Vegito?

Baby destroys Vegetto.

[ZombieVito]

SSJ2 Goku (Super) vs Mr Buu

Kaioshin and Kibito vs #17,#18,#16,#20 and #19 - Scenario:Alternate Future, the androids all work under #20. 3 years after the Z-Senshi have been wipe out.

Karin vs Kame Sennin

Goku gets one shotted.
Kaioshin waves his hand and all androids disappear.
Karin wins since his power is way higher (190 vs 139). Unless of course Roshi uses his buff form and the Kamehameha, he might pull it off.

[LightBing]

SSJ2 Goku (Super) vs Mr Buu

Kaioshin and Kibito vs #17,#18,#16,#20 and #19 - Scenario:Alternate Future, the androids all work under #20. 3 years after the Z-Senshi have been wipe out.

Karin vs Kame Sennin

Goku gets one shotted.
Kaioshin waves his hand and all androids disappear.
Karin wins since his power is way higher (190 vs 139). Unless of course Roshi uses his buff form and the Kamehameha, he might pull it off.

Here did you get the number for Karin? It seems exaggerated taking into account that Goku was even with Tien and Kame Sennin wasn't that far behind them, and this line implies that Karin wasn't surpassed by a great margin.

Chapter: 150, P13.2-4
Context: Goku asks Karin to train him more
Karin: “Unfortunately…There’s nothing more for me to teach you…[ ] Yeah…I understand how you feel, but…You’ve already acquired enough power to surpass even me”…

[supercat]

SSJ2 Goku (Super) vs Mr Buu

Kaioshin and Kibito vs #17,#18,#16,#20 and #19 - Scenario:Alternate Future, the androids all work under #20. 3 years after the Z-Senshi have been wipe out.

Karin vs Kame Sennin

-Because Mr. Buu was burdened with the unfortunate outcome of losing a good portion of power to his evil half, I think it's very plausible to assume that he is no longer leagues above an SSJ2 as he once was. Regardless, even after splitting, I'd say he's fully capable of taking down any Buu arc SSJ2. However, since Goku has likely gotten a bit stronger since the defeat of Kid Buu, I'd say the Saiyan may be able to put up a good fight at the least.

-Using his telekinetic abilities, Kaioshin instantly immobilizes all of the androids at once. With a powerful blast he then turns the entire group of machines into a pile of mechanical junk.

-The cat takes this with relative ease.

Golden Freeza, Goku, Vegeta, and Beerus vs Whis

I can see them getting stomp because Freeza's pride and cockiness, Saiyan Pride, and Beerus's...need for competition.

We rarely use personality in these versus battles

Whis blitzes through the group with his blinding speed, and casually one-shots each of the powerful warriors with a debilitating blow.

What about Super Baby 2 VS Base Vegito?

I'd say Super Baby Vegeta is more or less in the same realm of power as SSJ Vegetto (if not higher), so he takes this with the utmost ease.

[Captain Space]

Here did you get the number for Karin? It seems exaggerated taking into account that Goku was even with Tenshinhan and Kame Sennin wasn't that far behind them, and this line implies that Karin wasn't surpassed by a great margin.

Chapter: 150, P13.2-4
Context: Goku asks Karin to train him more
Karin: “Unfortunately…There’s nothing more for me to teach you…[ ] Yeah…I understand how you feel, but…You’ve already acquired enough power to surpass even me”…

It's another of those Shonen Jump/Daizenshuu numbers I've been railing against people accepting as canon lately.

Most of them aren't exactly bad guesses, but there's no real evidence for all but a few of them and a couple just plain don't make sense, like this one.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Gohan (2nd form Freeza beatdown zenkai) vs. 1st form Freeza

Really? What makes you think they're on-par with Perfect Cell(suppressed)..?

Or are you just applying a theoretical level, based on their brief sparring sessions with Gohan and Vegeta respectively, as well as their battle with #18 at the WMAT..?

Is there something wrong with basing their power off of their sparring sessions with Gohan and Vegeta? Or their battle with #18?

What about Super Baby 2 VS Base Vegito?

Even Super Vegetto loses in my opinion.

[Lord Beerus]

Gohan (2nd form Freeza beatdown zenkai) vs. 1st form Freeza

I don't think the zenkai would be enough for Gohan to catch up to First Form Freeza's BP. Freeza slaughters Gohan.

[Dbzfan94]

SSJGSSJ Vegetto VS Super Buu ( Super Perfect Cell and Golden Freeza absorbed)

[singsing]

SSJGSSJ Vegetto VS Super Buu ( Super Perfect Cell and Golden Freeza absorbed)

O_O. Super Perfect Cell does nothing and Golden Freeza is only marginally stronger than Vegeta/Goku. SSJGSSJ Vegetto falls asleep and his breathing kills Buu.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

Langfang vs. Videl (no flying)

[Lord Beerus]

Langfang vs. Videl (no flying)

I'm guessing you mean Ranfan, right? Because if so, Videl gets her ass kicked.

[Galan007]

Is there something wrong with basing their power off of their sparring sessions with Gohan and Vegeta? Or their battle with #18?

I don't recall saying there was something wrong with using those showings as a gauge--that's how I quantify them, myself(along with comparing the cheap-shot-kick Trunks delivered to Fat Buu, with the one Gohan delivered to him.)

Anywho, what I am curious about is how/why those showings put them around Perfect Cell's level, on average..? I'm not saying that's an inaccurate tier for them, just wondering if there's something I missed, is all.

[ZombieVito]

Langfang vs. Videl (no flying)

Videl wins after a hard fight.

[supercat]

Gohan (2nd form Freeza beatdown zenkai) vs. 1st form Freeza

While Gohan probably did benefit tremendously from that Zenkai, I'd say he still falls short of reaching 530,000.

SSJGSSJ Vegetto VS Super Buu ( Super Perfect Cell and Golden Freeza absorbed)

Super Buu and Super Perfect Cell are trivial fodders here, so their presence wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference. In fact, Super Buu is so insignificant compared to Frieza, I'm beginning to wonder if the former could even successfully absorb the latter.

When all is said is done, this fight would simply come down to SSGSS Vegetto and Golden Frieza. Seeing how Golden Frieza is only marginally stronger than SSGSS Goku / Vegeta, I'd say this would be a one-sided stomp in Vegetto's favor.

[TheGmGoken]

Goten (World Tournament arc) vs Damien Wayne (With Super Powers from that story arc a few months back)

[SSJ God Gogeta]

Goten, because fuck Damian Wayne...