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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:11 pm

Noah wrote:Here some new matches:

- Future SSJ Gohan x Future Android #17 (it is implied in special 2 that he could beat the android one-on-one, but in the manga not all)

- Future SSJ Gohan x SSJ Goku (After Yardrat or after 3 years training)

- Future SSJ Gohan x Mecha Freeza, King Cold

- Future SSJ Trunks x SSJ Goku (In Namek or after Yardrat)

- SSJ Goku (against #19) x Future Android 18

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Semi Perfect Cell

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Super Vegeta (against Cell)

- FPSSJ Goku, FPSSJ Gohan x Perfect Cell

- Majin Vegeta x Super Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M8 ) x Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M10 ) x SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Android Arc)

- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Before RoSaT) x Super Perfect Cell

- Majin Boo (before split) x Super Perfect Cell
- Gohan loses badly
- Considering in an alternate timeline where Trunks doesn't appear, Goku killing Mecha Freeza and King Cold when they arrive on Earth occurs, I'd say this quite a close battle. But Trunks being more pragmatic will give him the edge and the victory. But he loses to SSJ Goku after the three years of training.
- Freeza was so last season by this stage. He gets stomped by Gohan
- Trunks wins in either scenario (Namek or after Yardrat)
- #18 gets decimated
- Cell tears Piccolo a new one
- Vegeta crushes Piccolo
- FPSSJ Gohan alone could handle Perfect Cell if he goes all out. Throwing in FPSSJ Goku just gets the job done quicker
- Majin Vegeta gets wrecked unless he powers ups into a SSJ2 like he did against Goku
- Perfect Cell one shots. Anybody that is Perfect Cell level tier in terms of strength or higher, would kick Broly's ass at that stage.
- Gohan wins with medium difficulty
- Either version of SSJ Gotenks, Post or Pre-ROSAT, would finger flick SPC

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:17 pm

Hero wrote:Yay! First post haha.

A few what-if fights from me:

1. 23rd WMAT Yamcha vs. Old King Piccolo
2. 23rd WMAT Tenshinhan vs. Young King Piccolo
3. Beginning of Z Tenshinhan vs 23rd WMAT Goku
4. Raditz vs 1 Saibaman
5. Raditz vs 2 Saibamen
6. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs Raditz
7. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs 2 Raditzes
-I think Yamcha in a close fight.
-Tenshinhan is 250 according to the manga after 5 years of training to Z, so he loses to Daimao's 260.
-Tenshinhan is 250 here according to the manga, and Goku is higher than his 260 back when he beat Daimao. So Goku.
-Raditz has a moderate power advantage and probably skill, so he wins.
-2 will overwhelm Raditz unless he plays it smart.
-Yamcha's skill I think can make up for the tiny difference in power. I don't believe Raditz is that skilled, just powerful.
-Raditz's overwhelm Yamcha. It's basically 3 people with close to equal power, and having a 2-1 fight.
Noah wrote:Here some new matches:

- Future SSJ Gohan x Future Android #17 (it is implied in special 2 that he could beat the android one-on-one, but in the manga not all)

- Future SSJ Gohan x SSJ Goku (After Yardrat or after 3 years training)

- Future SSJ Gohan x Mecha Freeza, King Cold

- Future SSJ Trunks x SSJ Goku (In Namek or after Yardrat)

- SSJ Goku (against #19) x Future Android 18

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Semi Perfect Cell

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Super Vegeta (against Cell)

- FPSSJ Goku, FPSSJ Gohan x Perfect Cell

- Majin Vegeta x Super Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M8 ) x Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M10 ) x SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Android Arc)

- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Before RoSaT) x Super Perfect Cell

- Majin Boo (before split) x Super Perfect Cell
-I don't think Gohan could even beat them in the anime honestly. I still think 17 would still end up winning in a one on one fight. His infinite power being a key factor.

-Goku wrecks Gohan. Gohan said he was not as strong as Goku when he came back, which is after Yardrat.

-Gohan takes this. I don't think Trunks is that much different from Gohan in his initial appearance. Story has Bulma bring something up like that, and while she's not the best source, I think they just wanted to show how brash Trunks is. Also I don't have Mecha Freeza stronger than SSJ Goku Namek.

-Trunks beats Namek Goku, and if this is initial Trunks you mean, he loses to Yardrat Goku.

-I think 18 has got this as Goku weakens, and I think the Future Cyborgs are somewhat stronger than the SSJ's.

-I guess I'll say Piccolo. He did do a little better against a Cell Jr later who is above Semi Cell.

-Piccolo cause of the same reasons above.

-Perfect Cell uses his full power and beats both since Gohan doesn't go SSJ2

-Majin Vegeta wins after a somewhat tough fight. He is stronger than SSJ2 Kid Gohan, but not a hell of a lot stronger.

-Perfect Cell I think is stronger.

-Broly takes this no problem.

-Gotenks wins so long as he doesn't dick around too much.

-Boo eats Cell. All SSJ2 fighters are fodder to Boo sans fusions.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:18 pm

Gohan was toyed with in the anime special.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:24 pm

Lord Beerus wrote: - Gohan loses badly
- Considering in an alternate timeline where Trunks doesn't appear, Goku killing Mecha Freeza and King Cold when they arrive on Earth occurs, I'd say this quite a close battle. But Trunks being more pragmatic will give him the edge and the victory. But he loses to SSJ Goku after the three years of training.
- Freeza was so last season by this stage. He gets stomped by Gohan
- Trunks wins in either scenario (Namek or after Yardrat)
- #18 gets decimated
- Cell tears Piccolo a new one
- Vegeta crushes Piccolo
- FPSSJ Gohan alone could handle Perfect Cell if he goes all out. Throwing in FPSSJ Goku just gets the job done quicker
- Majin Vegeta gets wrecked unless he powers ups into a SSJ2 like he did against Goku
- Perfect Cell one shots. Anybody that is Perfect Cell level tier in terms of strength or higher, would kick Broly's ass at that stage.
- Gohan wins with medium difficulty
- Either version of SSJ Gotenks, Post or Pre-ROSAT, would finger flick SPC
- You think that Future SSJ Trunks in his first appearance is stronger than SSJ Goku (after Yardrat)?

- The future Androids #17, #18 are really weak if he compared they to SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta after 3 years training?

- So FPSSJ Teen Gohan is above a Fully-powered Perfect Cell then?

- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Pre-RoSaT) is above a normal SSJ2 tier then?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:45 pm

Hero wrote:Yay! First post haha.

A few what-if fights from me:

1. 23rd WMAT Yamcha vs. Old King Piccolo
2. 23rd WMAT Tenshinhan vs. Young King Piccolo
3. Beginning of Z Tenshinhan vs 23rd WMAT Goku
4. Raditz vs 1 Saibaman
5. Raditz vs 2 Saibamen
6. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs Raditz
7. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs 2 Raditzes
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1. Considering his compliments from Kami, I'd say Yamcha could take this with some difficulty (and maybe relying on Sokidan).

2. Tenshinhan = Weighted 23rd Goku > KP arc Goku >= King Piccolo.

Ergo, Tenshinhan.

4. Raditz; Saibamen were stated to be equal in power only, Raditz trumps in skill, etc.

5. Saibamen; Raditz's advantage is too slight.

6. Yamcha; Raditz was probably not as skilled as most of the Earth fighters, and Yamcha had a slight power advantage anyway.

7. The Raditzes; similar situation to 5.
Noah wrote:Here some new matches:

- Future SSJ Gohan x Future Android #17 (it is implied in special 2 that he could beat the android one-on-one, but in the manga not all)

- Future SSJ Gohan x SSJ Goku (After Yardrat or after 3 years training)

- Future SSJ Gohan x Mecha Freeza, King Cold

- Future SSJ Trunks x SSJ Goku (In Namek or after Yardrat)

- SSJ Goku (against #19) x Future Android 18

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Semi Perfect Cell

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Super Vegeta (against Cell)

- FPSSJ Goku, FPSSJ Gohan x Perfect Cell

- Majin Vegeta x Super Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M8 ) x Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M10 ) x SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Android Arc)

- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Before RoSaT) x Super Perfect Cell

- Majin Boo (before split) x Super Perfect Cell
-Since the manga is canon-ier, #17.

-Yardrat Goku > Trunks when he went back in time = Gohan when he died. Ergo, either Goku takes this.

-Gohan; again, same level as Trunks, who cleaned up Freeza and Cold with ease.

-Trunks beats Namek Goku but loses to Yardrat Goku (I doubt Namek Goku could take Mecha-Freeza and Cold so easily, but Yardrat Goku clearly could).

-Once again going by the manga, nothing to imply the future androids were weaker--just that they liked to hold back to mess with Gohan--so #18.

-Total honesty, no idea.

-Super Vegeta--since Vegeta hadn't had his second day yet, I think he'd have noted it if Piccolo had surpassed him.

-If Gohan can fight seriously, the saiyans can take this. FPSSJ Gohan was at least on Cell's level, or at least close.

-Majin Vegeta is even stronger than Cell Games Gohan, so he could take SPC easy.

-Cell. Their power should be in the same region, and Cell is an actual skilled fighter with a brain and a bunch of handy techniques and abilities Broly lacks.

-Gohan; Broly's power is supposed to have increased, but there's no evidence it was drastic, and SSJ2 Gohan >>> FPSSJ Goku with a few scraps of energy from his half-dead pals

-Post RoSaT, Gotenks for sure; he went toe-to-toe with Super Buu. Pre RoSaT...still probably Gotenks, given how Piccolo seemed to think he'd have the power to fight fat Buu at least.

-Cell is weaker than Majin Vegeta and none of his abilities are particularly useful against Buu, so Buu wins.

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dbzfan7 wrote: -Tenshinhan is 250 according to the manga after 5 years of training to Z, so he loses to Daimao's 260.
-Tenshinhan is 250 here according to the manga, and Goku is higher than his 260 back when he beat Daimao. So Goku.
You have 23rd Tenshinhan and BoZ Tenshinhan at the exact same power level?
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- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Pre-RoSaT) is above a normal SSJ2 tier then?
Post-RoSaT, he absolutely is. Look at his fight with Super Buu. No normal SSJ2 is gonna do that well.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:00 pm

Hero wrote:Yay! First post haha.

A few what-if fights from me:

1. 23rd WMAT Yamcha vs. Old King Piccolo
2. 23rd WMAT Tenshinhan vs. Young King Piccolo
3. Beginning of Z Tenshinhan vs 23rd WMAT Goku
4. Raditz vs 1 Saibaman
5. Raditz vs 2 Saibamen
6. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs Raditz
7. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs 2 Raditzes
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Yamcha gets slaughter. He didn't even surpass 22nd TB Goku at BoZ.
Tenshihan losses. He didn't surpass Piccolo until his training with God.
Tenshinhan losses way worse than with Piccolo.
Raditz wins.
The Saibamen win after wearing Raditz down.
Raditz wins because Yamcha.
This is a massacre. At least Yamcha gets to go to King Kai's place.
Noah wrote:Here some new matches:

- Future SSJ Gohan x Future Android #17 (it is implied in special 2 that he could beat the android one-on-one, but in the manga not all)

- Future SSJ Gohan x SSJ Goku (After Yardrat or after 3 years training)

- Future SSJ Gohan x Mecha Freeza, King Cold

- Future SSJ Trunks x SSJ Goku (In Namek or after Yardrat)

- SSJ Goku (against #19) x Future Android 18

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Semi Perfect Cell

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Super Vegeta (against Cell)

- FPSSJ Goku, FPSSJ Gohan x Perfect Cell

- Majin Vegeta x Super Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M8 ) x Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M10 ) x SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Android Arc)

- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Before RoSaT) x Super Perfect Cell

- Majin Boo (before split) x Super Perfect Cell
Future Gohan losses horribly.
Future Gohan still losses.
One armed Future Gohan wins with difficulty.
Trunks beats Namek SSJ Goku. Losses to Yadart Goku.
18 wins.
Piccolo one shots.
Piccolo beats Vegeta to a plump.
I'm assuming FP Cell right? They both lose bad.
Vegeta wins with difficulty.
No idea.
No idea.
Gotenks post RoSaT one shots. Pre still wins but with difficulty.
Majin Buu looks at Cell and he disintegrates.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:01 pm

Noah wrote:- You think that Future SSJ Trunks in his first appearance is stronger than SSJ Goku (after Yardrat)?

- The future Androids #17, #18 are really weak if he compared they to SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta after 3 years training?

- So FPSSJ Teen Gohan is above a Fully-powered Perfect Cell then?

- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Pre-RoSaT) is above a normal SSJ2 tier then?
- Personally, I see SSJ Goku (after Yardrat) being slightly stronger than SSJ Future Trunks but I did originally say said it would be a close battle, and Trunks being more pragmatic, not stronger, would give him the edge.
- The Futures Android at stage, in comparison to the top tier Z-Fighters, were kind weaksauce.
- FPSSJ Gohan could definitely have beaten Cell if he put 100% into it.
- I don't think we should lowball how powerful SSJ Goten and Kid Trunks were. They were Cell Jr. level, at least. Now combine that power and multiply it by at least 50. SSJ Gotenks was well above SSJ2 tier, before going or coming out of the ROSAT.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:11 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Noah wrote:
- The Futures Android at stage, in comparison to the top tier Z-Fighters, were kind weaksauce.
It's kind of weird; in the anime, they were pretty relatively weak...in the manga, they were as strong as the present androids, but they liked to fight Gohan at half power to screw with him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:13 pm

Captain Space wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Noah wrote:
- The Futures Android at stage, in comparison to the top tier Z-Fighters, were kind weaksauce.
It's kind of weird; in the anime, they were pretty relatively weak...in the manga, they were as strong as the present androids, but they liked to fight Gohan at half power to screw with him.
Also, the No. 17 and No. 18 in the future where the adult Trunks came from are somewhat inferior in power, but are cruel and inhumane.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:22 pm

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Noah wrote: Majin Boo (before split) x Super Perfect Cell
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:25 pm

Regardless of the Daizenshuu, the Future Androids are said to be weaker than the present Androids, and it's never retracted, so they should be inferior in power.

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Post by supercat » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:45 pm

Hero wrote:Yay! First post haha.

A few what-if fights from me:

1. 23rd WMAT Yamcha vs. Old King Piccolo
2. 23rd WMAT Tenshinhan vs. Young King Piccolo
3. Beginning of Z Tenshinhan vs 23rd WMAT Goku
4. Raditz vs 1 Saibaman
5. Raditz vs 2 Saibamen
6. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs Raditz
7. Saiyan Saga Yamcha vs 2 Raditzes

My predictions:
1. Yamcha actually wins this one. His performance in the 23rd WMAT was good enough to earn praise from Kami. The surprise spirit ball he used against Kami would've been enough to badly damage Old King Piccolo in my opinion.

2. Tenshinhan wins this. He believed he was at a level high enough to fight the Goku that had beat King Piccolo + 3 years training with God. I doubt Tenshinhan would've signed up for the tournament if he wasn't even as strong as Goku from 3 years ago.

3. Tenshinhan wins this for similar reasons as above.

4. Raditz has this. They may be at similar power levels but Raditz has at least some fighting skill.

5. Raditz loses. He couldn't take one two sub- 500 power levels.

6. Yamcha wins this. Unless Raditz somehow learns how to blow himself up.

7. Sorry Yamcha I'm not gonna be that nice to you today. The Raditz twins win.
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1. Yamcha breaks out of his usual routine, and actually scores a win against the evil Namekian.

2. Tien one-ups Yamcha's victory over King Piccolo by casually defeating a stronger version of the Namekian.

3. Goku puts Tien back in his place, and reminds him that he shouldn't be trying to one-up his buddies.

4. Raditz wins but after exerting an exceptional amount of energy.

5. In hopes of gaining the respect of his peers, Raditz decides to take on the daunting task of fighting two Saibamen at once. To his dismay, the fight proves to be far more challenging than he had envisioned. Needless to say, Vegeta and Nappa decide to replace the older brother of Kakarot with a band of Saibamen.

6. Yamcha must be on a winning streak here. With his slightly superior battle power, he makes quick work of Raditz.

7. Guess third time won't be the charm for poor Yamcha. Although he manages to dish out some considerable damage, he is eventually inundated by the combined might of the Saiyan clones.
Noah wrote:Here some new matches:

- Future SSJ Gohan x Future Android #17 (it is implied in special 2 that he could beat the android one-on-one, but in the manga not all)

- Future SSJ Gohan x SSJ Goku (After Yardrat or after 3 years training)

- Future SSJ Gohan x Mecha Freeza, King Cold

- Future SSJ Trunks x SSJ Goku (In Namek or after Yardrat)

- SSJ Goku (against #19) x Future Android 18

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Semi Perfect Cell

- Piccolo (Post RoSaT) x Super Vegeta (against Cell)

- FPSSJ Goku, FPSSJ Gohan x Perfect Cell

- Majin Vegeta x Super Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M8 ) x Perfect Cell

- LSSJ Broly ( M10 ) x SSJ2 Teen Gohan (Android Arc)

- SSJ Gotenks (Post or Before RoSaT) x Super Perfect Cell

- Majin Boo (before split) x Super Perfect Cell
-Anime: Gohan / Manga: 17

-After easily subduing his son's future counterpart, Goku encourages him to continue training hard.

-I have Future Gohan (one arm) only marginally below Trunks, so the tyrants yet again face another humiliating defeat at the hands of a Saiyan.

-Goku loses after a good fight. Between the android's subtle power advantage and unlimited stamina, the Saiyan has no chance of winning in the long run.

-Piccolo obliterates his biological clone with the utmost ease. I have the Namekian closing in on same realm of power as a Cell Jr.

If there was ever a time where Piccolo has shown that he could keep up with the Saiyans, it'd be during the events of the Android arc and Cell Games.

-Piccolo puts the proud prince to shame and promptly sends him back into the RoSaT.

-With enough will to fight, Gohan alone takes this with moderate levels of difficulty.

-Thrilled at the prospect of getting revenge, Majin Vegeta incinerates what was once known as perfection, with a powerful Big Bang Attack.

-Broly beats the life out of the biological android. The Legendary Super Saiyan was trumping the combined might of FPSSJ Goku, FPSSJ Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta, and Trunks. FPSSJ Gohan alone is enough to make quick work of Perfect Cell.

-With the same degree of rage influenced power displayed against Cell at his disposal, Gohan violently beats down the over hyped legend in a matter of minutes.

-Realizing that the grasshopper man is not exactly a pushover, SSJ Gotenks (pre-RoSaT) gets serious and wipes him out with one of his creepy little ghosts.

After training in the RoSaT, SSJ Gotenks casually exterminates the insect-looking creep with a mere ki blast.

(SSJ Gotenks (post-RoSaT) should more or less be on par with SSJ3 Goku)

-Majin Buu violently squashes the giant bug and begins laughing with joy.

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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Regardless of the Daizenshuu, the Future Androids are said to be weaker than the present Androids, and it's never retracted, so they should be inferior in power.
The one who says that is Trunks, though, and the only time either of the future androids fought seriously was when 17 killed Gohan, so Trunks was clearly under the impression that the androids weren't nearly as strong as they actually were. I think this is where the whole misconception, repeated throughout other sources, comes from...but that's just my opinion.

(And by the time Trunks fights them again, he's so much stronger than them he wouldn't know the difference, especially not being able to sense their power.)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:31 pm

Captain Space wrote:The one who says that is Trunks, though, and the only time either of the future androids fought seriously was when 17 killed Gohan, so Trunks was clearly under the impression that the androids weren't nearly as strong as they actually were. I think this is where the whole misconception, repeated throughout other sources, comes from...but that's just my opinion.
The opposite is implied. Compare Gohan confronting the Androids for a second time to Trunks confronting them a second time.

Gohan says he's now strong enough to beat the androids. #17, amused, says that he didn't even use half his power before.

Trunks says he's now strong enough to beat the androids. #17, amused, says...let's kill him... and that's all.

If #17 could've bragged like before, he would've; therefore, he couldn't, and so he (and by extension #18) didn't hold back during their fight with Trunks.

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Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:43 pm

Ah, I see what you mean. Hadn't thought of that before.

Of course, that creates a bit of weirdness where Trunks says he could sort of ish fight both androids at once, despite being at the same level Gohan was when he died, and 17 killed Gohan solo. I dunno, maybe having two arms helped Trunks.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:44 pm

Captain Space wrote:Ah, I see what you mean. Hadn't thought of that before.

Of course, that creates a bit of weirdness where Trunks says he could sort of ish fight both androids at once, despite being at the same level Gohan was when he died, and 17 killed Gohan solo. I dunno, maybe having two arms helped Trunks.
Trunks' statement of being able to put up a fight against them is after the 3 year time skip, where he time to improve, since he was already slightly stronger than Gohan, more training would put him well above Gohan.

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Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:50 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
Captain Space wrote:Ah, I see what you mean. Hadn't thought of that before.

Of course, that creates a bit of weirdness where Trunks says he could sort of ish fight both androids at once, despite being at the same level Gohan was when he died, and 17 killed Gohan solo. I dunno, maybe having two arms helped Trunks.
Trunks' statement of being able to put up a fight against them is after the 3 year time skip, where he time to improve, since he was already slightly stronger than Gohan, more training would put him well above Gohan.
Pretty sure in the manga he was equal with Gohan after the time skip? SSJ Trunks wasn't even as strong as base Gohan before the timeskip.

EDIT: Yeah, just checked. Post three-year timeskip, Trunks is roughly equal to Gohan. He goes to fight them, fails, and as soon as he recovers from his injuries goes back in time.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:52 pm

Captain Space wrote:Pretty sure in the manga he was equal with Gohan after the time skip? SSJ Trunks wasn't even as strong as base Gohan before the timeskip.

EDIT: Yeah, just checked. Post three-year timeskip, Trunks is roughly equal to Gohan. He goes to fight them, fails, and as soon as he recovers from his injuries goes back in time.
No, I mean the 3 years Goku and co. trained for the Androids.

Trunks saga Trunks is only slightly stronger than one-armed Gohan, Android saga Trunks would have time to improve and be a lot stronger.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Space » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:57 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
Captain Space wrote:Pretty sure in the manga he was equal with Gohan after the time skip? SSJ Trunks wasn't even as strong as base Gohan before the timeskip.

EDIT: Yeah, just checked. Post three-year timeskip, Trunks is roughly equal to Gohan. He goes to fight them, fails, and as soon as he recovers from his injuries goes back in time.
No, I mean the 3 years Goku and co. trained for the Androids.

Trunks saga Trunks is only slightly stronger than one-armed Gohan, Android saga Trunks would have time to improve and be a lot stronger.
Ooooooooh. Sorry, I see what you mean.

Wait, Trunks didn't just travel straight from Freeza and Cold's arrival to three years later? I didn't think he stopped back at the future at all, or not for more than a few hours/days.

EDIT: Though that could explain why he seems to reference multiple fights with the future androids in the android saga, when in the Trunks "saga" (mini-arc...thing...) he's only fought them once so far, if like you're saying he stayed in the future for longer.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:59 pm

Captain Space wrote:
SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
Captain Space wrote:Pretty sure in the manga he was equal with Gohan after the time skip? SSJ Trunks wasn't even as strong as base Gohan before the timeskip.

EDIT: Yeah, just checked. Post three-year timeskip, Trunks is roughly equal to Gohan. He goes to fight them, fails, and as soon as he recovers from his injuries goes back in time.
No, I mean the 3 years Goku and co. trained for the Androids.

Trunks saga Trunks is only slightly stronger than one-armed Gohan, Android saga Trunks would have time to improve and be a lot stronger.
Ooooooooh. Sorry, I see what you mean.

Wait, Trunks didn't just travel straight from Freeza and Cold's arrival to three years later? I didn't think he stopped back at the future at all, or not for more than a few hours/days.

EDIT: Though that could explain why he seems to reference multiple fights with the future androids in the android saga, when in the Trunks "saga" (mini-arc...thing...) he's only fought them once so far, if like you're saying he stayed in the future for longer.
It was at least 8 months, as that's how long it takes for the time machine to recharge.

Trunks saga Trunks was weaker than Yardrat Goku, and Android saga Trunks was grouped in with Android saga Vegeta by multiple different people, so he had to have powered up.

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