"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion of all things related to Dragon Ball video games (console and portable games, arcade versions, etc.) from the entire franchise's history.
User avatar
Careless Saiyajin
Regular
Posts: 748
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:39 pm
Location: New Jersey
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by Careless Saiyajin » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:46 am

DarkPrince_92 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Imagine if we're Tarble son.....
Then we'd be a disgrace. Also, Table's son would have to be half... robot? Right?
Is that what Tarble's wife is? Robot? I only watched that special once forgot the details.

User avatar
dbboxkaifan
Banned
Posts: 8906
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:32 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:17 am

Careless Saiyajin wrote:Is that what Tarble's wife is? Robot? I only watched that special once forgot the details.
Isn't she a vegetable with clothing or is she a robot?

Image
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
- Kai 2.0 on Blu-ray

User avatar
DarkPrince_92
I Live Here
Posts: 3492
Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:09 pm
Location: Glendale, CA
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:48 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:Who's Suno?
Suno... or Snow. The little red hair girl from the snowy village (easy enough) that lives with Android 8.

Image
I am a freelance animator, check out my thangs. ART!

Check my webcomic series Off Guard now on webtoons!

PSN/Steam: MOSLittGaming

Gaming Channel/Socials: MOSLittGaming

User avatar
Rukura
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1848
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:29 pm
Location: Space Lisbon, Space Portugal

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by Rukura » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:33 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Careless Saiyajin wrote:Is that what Tarble's wife is? Robot? I only watched that special once forgot the details.
Isn't she a vegetable with clothing or is she a robot?

Image
Pretty sure she's just an alien.
Full checklist of all Xenoverse clothing pieces, accessories and Z-Souls (Many thanks to jrdemr for the Z-Souls sheet): https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8vxc8m0fehev ... .xlsx?dl=0

User avatar
dbboxkaifan
Banned
Posts: 8906
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:32 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:42 am

Who calls her by "Snow"? It's kind of weird that she ended up marrying Hachan of all people as it feels a bit inappropriate due to their age differences (Hachan never really aged as he's not human) but hey, it's love. lol :P
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
- Kai 2.0 on Blu-ray

User avatar
DarkPrince_92
I Live Here
Posts: 3492
Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:09 pm
Location: Glendale, CA
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:49 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Who calls her by "Snow"? It's kind of weird that she ended up marrying Hachan of all people as it feels a bit inappropriate due to their age differences (Hachan never really aged as he's not human) but hey, it's love. lol :P
I CALL HER SNOW. Also, they're married?! Dafuq? :crazy:
I am a freelance animator, check out my thangs. ART!

Check my webcomic series Off Guard now on webtoons!

PSN/Steam: MOSLittGaming

Gaming Channel/Socials: MOSLittGaming

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:52 am

What are you talking about?! Gure is neither a robot or a vegetable, she is an alien. And Suno isn't married with #8...
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
dbboxkaifan
Banned
Posts: 8906
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:32 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:20 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What are you talking about?! Gure is neither a robot or a vegetable, she is an alien. And Suno isn't married with #8...
Just "alien" is too vague of a term because that really doesn't specify what/where she's exactly from.

If you take Vegeta for example he's an alien from outer space who was born in Planet Vegeta, plus he has similarities to Humans so the same applies to Mrs. Tarble to determine what or where she's from.

By the way, seeing how Suno has always been together with Hatchan it makes them a couple even if they don't have a ring on their fingers to prove it.
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
- Kai 2.0 on Blu-ray

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 25, 2014 10:43 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:Just "alien" is too vague of a term because that really doesn't specify what/where she's exactly from.

If you take Vegeta for example he's an alien from outer space who was born in Planet Vegeta, plus he has similarities to Humans so the same applies to Mrs. Tarble to determine what or where she's from.
Alien & vegetable are not the same thing. Nothing says that she is a vegetable or robot.
By the way, seeing how Suno has always been together with Hatchan it makes them a couple even if they don't have a ring on their fingers to prove it.
#8 is a robot, not a human, and they definitely didn't have a relation when she was a kid. Not to mention that when a man & a woman are together, they don't have to be in a relationship.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
SingleFringe&Sparks
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1642
Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:55 pm
Location: Mt. Paozu/East District

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:13 am

Careless Saiyajin wrote:
DarkPrince_92 wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Imagine if we're Tarble son.....
Then we'd be a disgrace. Also, Table's son would have to be half... robot? Right?
Is that what Tarble's wife is? Robot? I only watched that special once forgot the details.
I highly doubt she would be compatable for interbreeding with a Saiyan. She is barely humanoid.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

User avatar
EXBadguy
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1650
Joined: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:24 pm
Location: NJ, 'MERICA

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by EXBadguy » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:17 am

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
hulkty wrote:
DarkPrince_92 wrote:Yamcha was decent in Burst Limit, I liked the way he fought. Burst Limit was one of those few games where characters didn't feel all the same. He had a "Wolf Fang" fighting style which I thought was cool.
Tenshinhan was the BEST in Burst Limit. *Biased*
I found him to be the best represented in accordance to his fighting style, it was actually portayed correctly, far better then he was in any Spike game. Same goes for Saibaman in Burst limit, he actually fights the way he did in the show and felt less like a stock character.
And that's why some people look down on the BT games, because they lack variety and uniqueness in combos. I know somebody here is gonna say "Most characters in Z fight the same". Shut up, not all of them don't! Stop making that excuse. All they need to do is make creative movesets and just make every characters have different combo set-ups. The ones in BT2/3 aren't enough to make the characters feel unique.

Luckily this game's at least doing that, despite it looking awkward at the moment(specifically Goku).
Akira Toriyama wrote:If anyone. ANYONE AT TOEI! Makes a movie about old and weak major villains returning, or making recolored versions of Super Saiyan, I'ma come to yo company and evict you from doing Dragon Ball ever again! Only I do those things, because people love me, and they despise you....derp!
Marco Polo wrote:Goku Black is a fan of DBZ who hates Super and has taken the form of a younger Goku (thinner shape, softer hair) to avenge the original series by destroying the new.

User avatar
dbboxkaifan
Banned
Posts: 8906
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:32 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by dbboxkaifan » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:20 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Alien & vegetable are not the same thing. Nothing says that she is a vegetable or robot.

So what exactly is she, specifically? Saying "alien" just isn't enough to know much about her origins. To me she looks like some kind of a vegetable with clothes.

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:#8 is a robot, not a human, and they definitely didn't have a relation when she was a kid. Not to mention that when a man & a woman are together, they don't have to be in a relationship.
It doesn't matter that Hatchan's a mech they both had affection for each other (cared; loved) and so whether it's a love or caring relationship it depends on both of them. Artificial Human No. 19 before Kuririn asked Shen Long to turn her into a human (which allowed to procreate their daughter) she was a robot too and he was attracted to her.
FUNimation 2015 Releases I want:
- Kai 2.0 on Blu-ray

User avatar
Rukura
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1848
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:29 pm
Location: Space Lisbon, Space Portugal

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by Rukura » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:41 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:It doesn't matter that Hatchan's a mech they both had affection for each other (cared; loved) and so whether it's a love or caring relationship it depends on both of them. Artificial Human No. 19 before Kuririn asked Shen Long to turn her into a human (which allowed to procreate their daughter) she was a robot too and he was attracted to her.
For the record, Kuririn's wish did nothing. She just happened to have stayed human enough to have a kid. You're talking about two very different situations there.
/off topic
Full checklist of all Xenoverse clothing pieces, accessories and Z-Souls (Many thanks to jrdemr for the Z-Souls sheet): https://www.dropbox.com/s/u8vxc8m0fehev ... .xlsx?dl=0

User avatar
SingleFringe&Sparks
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1642
Joined: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:55 pm
Location: Mt. Paozu/East District

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:49 am

EXBadguy wrote:And that's why some people look down on the BT games, because they lack variety and uniqueness in combos. I know somebody here is gonna say "Most characters in Z fight the same". Shut up, not all of them don't! Stop making that excuse. All they need to do is make creative movesets and just make every characters have different combo set-ups. The ones in BT2/3 aren't enough to make the characters feel unique.

Luckily this game's at least doing that, despite it looking awkward at the moment(specifically Goku).
Its not like that for me, unique combo execution isnt my priority. The reason why BT is seen as a bad game is because of the stiffness in the combos and animation transitions, especially if you compare Tien and Yamcha to their Burst limit counter parts, its really impossible to really mix-up with them in BT3 because you are locked into how they fight based on how slow and unresponsive their animations are, you cant even cancel out of ones that leave you open due to the expected lag. Both characters are portrayed horribly in BT. Where as Burst limit perfectly represented them as well as Nappa, Raditz and Freeza: BT's worst characters to play as for non spammers.
budokaifanatic007 wrote:
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:With Burst limit still the highest selling game (excluding BT3) you would think Namco would bank on a sequel like most smart developers. Instead for whatever reason they keep trying to rebuild the failures.
Hopefully Burst Limit 2 is a Plan B in case the Tenkaichi styled games drop low enough in sales or the fans show lack of intrest of it. They have to switch it up for PS4/X1
I wish it were that easy, but unfotrunately the lack of interest for Tenkaichi won't come at a big enough downpour for Namco to not see it as unprofitable. The way this fanbase works is basically people will just cling to the lesser of both evils, if Xenoverse flops, they'll just want a RB3 even with the gameplay even hypathetically still being inferior to Xenoverse's current build. Its exactly what happened last year when people hated BoZ. Suddenly they wanted an UT2. :? The logic flies over my head.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Burst Limit is most likely didn't get a sequel because Dimps got busy with other projects and don't have the time to make a sequel. Namco Bandai felt like the game didn't turn out as they hope for and felt like sticking with Spike is easier because they are cheap as shit.
Probably that. Though, I thought that they mostly king to Tenkaichi style because of the fanbase and the higher wave of casuals that were spoiled by it. They're just trying to milk on the demands. They only got the message that this was crushing the worth of the newer games recently after everyone ouright hated UT and BoZ but are still unwilling to go back to 2D.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

User avatar
DBZGTKOSDH
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 12401
Joined: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:45 pm
Location: Greece

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:29 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:It doesn't matter that Hatchan's a mech they both had affection for each other (cared; loved) and so whether it's a love or caring relationship it depends on both of them.
Again, this doesn't mean that they are in love. Hatchan could love her in the sense that he has her like a sister. There is literally nothing that shows them being in a relationship or anything like that. Being together doesn't mean that they are in love.
Artificial Human No. 19 before Kuririn asked Shen Long to turn her into a human (which allowed to procreate their daughter) she was a robot too and he was attracted to her.
#18 isn't a robot though, she was originally a human that had mostly organic modifications (her infinite energy reactor was organic), which only a few mechanical modifications (the device to shut her down & the bomb). #8 is completely mechanical.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

User avatar
DarkPrince_92
I Live Here
Posts: 3492
Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:09 pm
Location: Glendale, CA
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:49 pm

Another useless argument is stirring up. Suno and Eighter live together, they're family. Enough of that.

Anyway, back to the mystery character being a Human/Saiyan hybrid. We don't know how far in the future he's from to determine who may be his parents. For all we know he's 1/32 Saiyan.
I am a freelance animator, check out my thangs. ART!

Check my webcomic series Off Guard now on webtoons!

PSN/Steam: MOSLittGaming

Gaming Channel/Socials: MOSLittGaming

User avatar
Quebaz
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1203
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:57 am
Location: Portugal
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by Quebaz » Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:55 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
EXBadguy wrote:And that's why some people look down on the BT games, because they lack variety and uniqueness in combos. I know somebody here is gonna say "Most characters in Z fight the same". Shut up, not all of them don't! Stop making that excuse. All they need to do is make creative movesets and just make every characters have different combo set-ups. The ones in BT2/3 aren't enough to make the characters feel unique.

Luckily this game's at least doing that, despite it looking awkward at the moment(specifically Goku).
Its not like that for me, unique combo execution isnt my priority. The reason why BT is seen as a bad game is because of the stiffness in the combos and animation transitions, especially if you compare Tenshinhan and Yamcha to their Burst limit counter parts, its really impossible to really mix-up with them in BT3 because you are locked into how they fight based on how slow and unresponsive their animations are, you cant even cancel out of ones that leave you open due to the expected lag. Both characters are portrayed horribly in BT. Where as Burst limit perfectly represented them as well as Nappa, Raditz and Freeza: BT's worst characters to play as for non spammers.
This is so true. Yamcha, Nappa, Reccome, Zarbon, Saibaman and a few other feel like an extremely chore to play. You always get this feeling that some animations are going to miss or that the oponent is going to dodge and they are so clunky that you can't even cancel out of them like you can with other characters. While BoZ didn't have any sort of combo system, atleast every character had rewally cool and fitting melee animations that not only felt powerful and felt like they hit the opponent, you could also cancel out of them.
A LUZ INFINITA!
Steam: Quebaz
PSN: BSSJ3
Tumblr

User avatar
Careless Saiyajin
Regular
Posts: 748
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:39 pm
Location: New Jersey
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by Careless Saiyajin » Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:31 pm

Does anyone have anything to add about XENOVERSE related information? :crazy:

User avatar
Kamiccolo9
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10371
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:32 pm
Location: Regensburg, Germany

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:36 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
By the way, seeing how Suno has always been together with Hatchan it makes them a couple even if they don't have a ring on their fingers to prove it.
Uh.....I don't think it works that way.
Champion of the 1st Kanzenshuu Short Story Tenkaichi Budokai
Kamiccolo9's Kompendium of Short Stories
Cipher wrote:If Vegeta does not kill Gohan, I will stop illegally streaming the series.
Malik_DBNA wrote:
Scarz wrote:Malik, stop. People are asking me for lewd art of possessed Bra (with Vegeta).
"Achievement Unlocked: Rule 34"

User avatar
Careless Saiyajin
Regular
Posts: 748
Joined: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:39 pm
Location: New Jersey
Contact:

Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" (PS4/XB1/PS3/360) Official Threa

Post by Careless Saiyajin » Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:47 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:
By the way, seeing how Suno has always been together with Hatchan it makes them a couple even if they don't have a ring on their fingers to prove it.
Uh.....I don't think it works that way.
As off topic as this is i might as well comment, it definitely does not work this way i agree with kamiccolo9.

Post Reply