LOL, I meant that, just like Raditz died 5 episodes in, Black should be the same, with the main villain being someone else (Vegeta in Raditz's case).Anime Kitten wrote:Raditz: KAKAROT! I am finally taking my revenge on you! Use your full power on me!Sandubadear wrote:I was hoping for Black to die really soon, and then the villain is someone else, like Raditz.
Goku: Okay... *turns SSGSS*
Raditz: GRAAAAAAH--! *turned to ashes*
Goku: ...
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I still hope this arc pull a Marvel's Secret Wars, it would be freaking awesome.
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THE ENDLord Beerus wrote:That's what I'm hoping for. But given how Trunks took on Goku Black, he might not be all that strong. That is one of the few occasions where I am hoping the main villain is pulling the "I'm not even using my full power" card.ryou766 wrote:This might go to show that Goku won't be the one to take down Black. It isn't his responsibility.Lord Beerus wrote:It still feels way too early for Goku and Goku Black to already be duking it out. I just want to see Goku Black crush everyone in path, starting with Goku. The one thing Super needs more than anything right now is a main villain, but more importantly, an imposing main villain.
This is how I want it to go down in Episode 50 when Goku Black and Goku fight:
- Goku turns SSJ
- Goku and Goku Black fight to a stalemate
- Goku turns SSJB and get an advantage over Goku Black
- Goku Black evilly smirks and powers up briefly
- Goku Black no sells everything SSJB Goku throws at him.
- SSJB Vegeta and SSJ Future Trunks join the fight.
- Goku Black continues to no sell everything thrown at him
- Goku Black kills Goku and Vegeta
- Future Trunks reluctantly retreats
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Oh please like that would happen. They'd be back anyways just in time for the next Bulma BBQ.Lord Beerus wrote:Goku Black kills Goku and Vegeta
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Jaco should be the one to take down Black, in all honesty.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about him... You're right, he's the real hero here. There's really no other choice (and don't say Hercule).ryou766 wrote:Jaco should be the one to take down Black, in all honesty.
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Mark is the one and only true hero of the Dragon Ball verseryou766 wrote:Jaco should be the one to take down Black, in all honesty.


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They have three sets of wish granting MacGuffins that can bail them out of any scenario. And two of those three sets pretty much guarantee that none of the core cast can be killed off permanently, unless they die of natural causes. They can afford for Goku and Vegeta to bite the bullet because they can just bring them back to life in a few month. Plus, it would put over Goku Black big time as one hell of a menacing and no-nonsense villain, something Dragon Ball Super needs now more than ever. And, it would give the opportunity for the rest of the cast to shine.dbzfan7 wrote:Oh please like that would happen. They'd be back anyways just in time for the next Bulma BBQ.Lord Beerus wrote:Goku Black kills Goku and Vegeta
Everyone wins.
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Bra prevents Vegeta from dying. He can't die until she's conceived.
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Except Goku, Vegeta, and Black.Lord Beerus wrote:Everyone wins.
Maybe she already is.Grimlock wrote:Bra prevents Vegeta from dying. He can't die until she's conceived.
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If they died they'd be wished back almost immediately and then await a rematch. No time for jobbers.Lord Beerus wrote:They have three sets of wish granting MacGuffins that can bail them out of any scenario. And two of those three sets pretty much guarantee that none of the core cast can be killed off permanently, unless they die of natural causes. They can afford for Goku and Vegeta to bite the bullet because they can just bring them back to life in a few month. Plus, it would put over Goku Black big time as one hell of a menacing and no-nonsense villain, something Dragon Ball Super needs now more than ever. And, it would give the opportunity for the rest of the cast to shine.dbzfan7 wrote:Oh please like that would happen. They'd be back anyways just in time for the next Bulma BBQ.Lord Beerus wrote:Goku Black kills Goku and Vegeta
Everyone wins.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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No offense, but if Black is powerful enough to kill both Vegeta and Goku, and is no nonsense, how the hell is anyone else suppose to shine? Everyone would be dead by the next episode unless you think everyone can surpass Goku and Vegeta before Black destroys the world. You know, the same Goku and Vegeta whose base forms make Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks look like a weakling.Lord Beerus wrote:They have three sets of wish granting MacGuffins that can bail them out of any scenario. And two of those three sets pretty much guarantee that none of the core cast can be killed off permanently, unless they die of natural causes. They can afford for Goku and Vegeta to bite the bullet because they can just bring them back to life in a few month. Plus, it would put over Goku Black big time as one hell of a menacing and no-nonsense villain, something Dragon Ball Super needs now more than ever. And, it would give the opportunity for the rest of the cast to shine.dbzfan7 wrote:Oh please like that would happen. They'd be back anyways just in time for the next Bulma BBQ.Lord Beerus wrote:Goku Black kills Goku and Vegeta
Everyone wins.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
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I think Bra has been born at this stage, and much like Pan, her existence will be briefly acknowledged for a few moments in-universe, like:Grimlock wrote:Bra prevents Vegeta from dying. He can't die until she's conceived.
Goku: "So Vegeta, how's Bra doing?"
Vegeta: "She's asleep like any other infant would be at this time."
Goku: "I hope Bulma's breasts don't sag too much from feeding her!"
Vegeta: "KAKAROTTO!!!"
Goku: "Saggy tits! lol ftw"
*cue Benny Hill theme*
Or if she's lucky like Pan, she'll get a filler episode with her as a central character.
Have Gohan, Goten and Trunks all become SSJB's and their potenial with the form higher than Goku and Vegeta, give Piccolo a new power up via Namekian Book of Legends plot device, thrown in Majin Boo for shits and giggles. Done.HeroR wrote:No offense, but if Black is powerful enough to kill both Vegeta and Goku, and is no nonsense, how the hell is anyone else suppose to shine? Everyone would be dead by the next episode unless you think everyone can surpass Goku and Vegeta before Black destroys the world. You know, the same Goku and Vegeta whose base forms make Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks look like a weakling.
Seriously, at this stage, anyone can be as strong as they want to in Super. There really is nothing stopping them from having SSJB Gohan having a higher threshold of power within the form than Goku and Vegeta did or SSJB Gotenks becoming a thing, or Piccolo getting another insane power up out of nowhere that puts him ahead of the Saiyans again.
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I wonder why they are willing to tell next months titles but weren't willing to say this months?
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Black cannot be a simple pushover after all this hype and build up. I hope Goku and Vegeta SSJB isn't enough for him. So far SSJB hasn't had a real opponent because of restraints of rules. We need something to push them to the point they are helpless. I don't know what or who could kill black after that but I could see Goku and Vegeta sacrificing them selves but Black still escapes though barely and retreats. Then the cast could go looking for the Super balls to revive them just in fear that Black will return. (assuming our DB's can't revive them or are destroyed)
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Shh, youre making too much sense. Also, youd think that they would do it considering how much more toys they could sell.Lord Beerus wrote:I think Bra has been born at this stage, and much like Pan, her existence will be briefly acknowledged for a few moments in-universe, like:Grimlock wrote:Bra prevents Vegeta from dying. He can't die until she's conceived.
Goku: "So Vegeta, how's Bra doing?"
Vegeta: "She's asleep like any other infant would be at this time."
Goku: "I hope Bulma's breasts don't sag too much from feeding her!"
Vegeta: "KAKAROTTO!!!"
Goku: "Saggy tits! lol ftw"
*cue Benny Hill theme*
Or if she's lucky like Pan, she'll get a filler episode with her as a central character.
Have Gohan, Goten and Trunks all become SSJB's and their potenial with the form higher than Goku and Vegeta, give Piccolo a new power up via Namekian Book of Legends plot device, thrown in Majin Boo for shits and giggles. Done.HeroR wrote:No offense, but if Black is powerful enough to kill both Vegeta and Goku, and is no nonsense, how the hell is anyone else suppose to shine? Everyone would be dead by the next episode unless you think everyone can surpass Goku and Vegeta before Black destroys the world. You know, the same Goku and Vegeta whose base forms make Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks look like a weakling.
Seriously, at this stage, anyone can be as strong as they want to in Super. There really is nothing stopping them from having SSJB Gohan having a higher threshold of power within the form than Goku and Vegeta did or SSJB Gotenks becoming a thing, or Piccolo getting another insane power up out of nowhere that puts him ahead of the Saiyans again.
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A little curve being thrown here for a moment. Also if i may, while these titles seem very interesting, aren't Japanese titles for Super normally longer than what these are?
Anyways, I was just thinking...what are the odds the Pilaf gang have something to do with Black. Probably highly unlikely but the way the gang is showed in the intro, this title of Mai and transcending time has got my mind all scrambled haha.
Anyways, I was just thinking...what are the odds the Pilaf gang have something to do with Black. Probably highly unlikely but the way the gang is showed in the intro, this title of Mai and transcending time has got my mind all scrambled haha.
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Or how about Zamasu interrupts Gokuu and Black fight.
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Satan is old news. Monaka is our new Lord and Saviour.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Mark is the one and only true hero of the Dragon Ball verseryou766 wrote:Jaco should be the one to take down Black, in all honesty.![]()

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Seems extra to take down 1 or 2 enemiesLord Beerus wrote:I think Bra has been born at this stage, and much like Pan, her existence will be briefly acknowledged for a few moments in-universe, like:Grimlock wrote:Bra prevents Vegeta from dying. He can't die until she's conceived.
Goku: "So Vegeta, how's Bra doing?"
Vegeta: "She's asleep like any other infant would be at this time."
Goku: "I hope Bulma's breasts don't sag too much from feeding her!"
Vegeta: "KAKAROTTO!!!"
Goku: "Saggy tits! lol ftw"
*cue Benny Hill theme*
Or if she's lucky like Pan, she'll get a filler episode with her as a central character.
Have Gohan, Goten and Trunks all become SSJB's and their potenial with the form higher than Goku and Vegeta, give Piccolo a new power up via Namekian Book of Legends plot device, thrown in Majin Boo for shits and giggles. Done.HeroR wrote:No offense, but if Black is powerful enough to kill both Vegeta and Goku, and is no nonsense, how the hell is anyone else suppose to shine? Everyone would be dead by the next episode unless you think everyone can surpass Goku and Vegeta before Black destroys the world. You know, the same Goku and Vegeta whose base forms make Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks look like a weakling.
Seriously, at this stage, anyone can be as strong as they want to in Super. There really is nothing stopping them from having SSJB Gohan having a higher threshold of power within the form than Goku and Vegeta did or SSJB Gotenks becoming a thing, or Piccolo getting another insane power up out of nowhere that puts him ahead of the Saiyans again.