"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Kagari]

I wonder if Trunks goes to Gohan because something is gonna happen to Goku and Vegeta in this upcoming EP? After those 2, Gohan is the most logical choice to ask help from, especially since the last time he was there, Gohan was unstoppable...




...A guy can wish right?..

Goku getting taken out of the picture for a while was pretty common in DBZ so it wouldn't be unprecedented.

[Chuquita]

Wow I get a fake/imitation vibe from Gokû Black in Toriyama's drawing. Very threw a wig on him.

[ryou766]

Wow I get a fake/imitation vibe from Gokû Black in Toriyama's drawing. Very threw a wig on him.

That's how I feel with the anime version of Black. He basically looks as though someone gave Vegeta a Goku wig.

[HeroR]

Wow I get a fake/imitation vibe from Gokû Black in Toriyama's drawing. Very threw a wig on him.

That's how I feel with the anime version of Black. He basically looks as though someone gave Vegeta a Goku wig.

That's because Toriyama draw Goku's angry face with Vegeta's face. He more or less admitted that he drew Super Saiyan Goku's face like he would Vegeta.

[ekrolo2]

I'm liking the thinner look of Black, in fact, one of my chief complaints with Toriyama's later style is how roided out everyone looks.

His later style has has everyone be super thin though.

I meant his Boo Saga look lol. Everyone looks way too muscle bound and kind of blocky for my tastes. The Cell arc had shades of that too but the Boo Saga took it too far.

[Krillin1994]

Really? I always found buu arc Vegeta less roided out that his cell saga look.

[ekrolo2]

Really? I always found buu arc Vegeta less roided out that his cell saga look.

Well, Vegeta never got morbidly bulky like he did in the Cell arc with Grade 2 but I think the Cell arc is the last time Toriyama seemed to try for me. A lot of his Boo art looks really half-assed and rushed and the characters look very stocky and simultaneously bulky for my taste. His SS3 looks horrid in the Kid Boo fight for example.

[MaGyunia]

I wonder if Trunks goes to Gohan because something is gonna happen to Goku and Vegeta in this upcoming EP? After those 2, Gohan is the most logical choice to ask help from, especially since the last time he was there, Gohan was unstoppable...




...A guy can wish right?..

Highly unlikely, but you yourself made it obvious you already know that. Not only has Gohan quit fighting, he was actually, at least temporarily, "wiped out of existence" in DBSuper - at least for now, he might come back in some minor role at some point afterwards. They seem to cherrypick according to very strategized specifications who's gonna play a significant role in each arc, most of the times for reasons that have to do with what they know the fans want to be seen brought back (characters and their respective techniques, with Mirai no Trunks and his trademark f**** future timeline in ruins being just the latest example).

If Trunks did that - and he won't, not because it's impossible for it to cross his mind, but because the creators of the show don't intend Gohan to be present at least in this arc AT ALL - he would be thoroughly disappointed and surprised at what Gohan has become after the last image he had of him was as a Super Saiya-jin 2 thrashing Cell and saving the world, as the strongest fighter there ever was in his - and everyone present there's - eyes. And Trunks doesn't even know the immensity of events of the Majin Buu saga, where Gohan got even MUCH higher than that. But don't get your hopes too high. In fact, don't hope at all. The slight possiblity, though, is that Trunks might mention Gohan's power only for the show to display yet another flashback of Gohan's power (in fact, we had a little bit of that in episode 47 already, when Trunks says to Mai he "has friends" there, in "that" past).

[ArchedThunder]

I wonder if Trunks goes to Gohan because something is gonna happen to Goku and Vegeta in this upcoming EP? After those 2, Gohan is the most logical choice to ask help from, especially since the last time he was there, Gohan was unstoppable...




...A guy can wish right?..

Highly unlikely, but you yourself made it obvious you already know that. Not only has Gohan quit fighting, he was actually, at least temporarily, "wiped out of existence" in DBSuper - at least for now, he might come back in some minor role at some point afterwards. They seem to cherrypick according to very strategized specifications who's gonna play a significant role in each arc, most of the times for reasons that have to do with what they know the fans want to be seen brought back (characters and their respective techniques, with Mirai no Trunks and his trademark f**** future timeline in ruins being just the latest example).

Uh, did you forget that they made it a point to show that he learned from the F arc and he went back to training? He was even going to be part of the tournament instead of Piccolo but didn't go due to already having something scheduled. This is pretty much the perfect time for Gohan to do something, even if it's not necessarily super major.

[Kanassa]

he would be thoroughly disappointed and surprised at what Gohan has become after the last image he had of him was as a Super Saiya-jin 2 thrashing Cell and saving the world, as the strongest fighter there ever was in his - and everyone present there's - eyes.

Why would Mirai Trunks be disappointed? It's more likly that he would be happy for Gohan.

[Grimlock]

he would be thoroughly disappointed and surprised at what Gohan has become after the last image he had of him was as a Super Saiya-jin 2 thrashing Cell and saving the world.

Trunks was dead when Gohan killed Cell, thus saving the world.

[Chelentano]

he would be thoroughly disappointed and surprised at what Gohan has become after the last image he had of him was as a Super Saiya-jin 2 thrashing Cell and saving the world.

Trunks was dead when Gohan killed Cell, thus saving the world.

Well, he was revived after that and they sure explained him what happened before he came back to his time.

[MaGyunia]

Wow, didn't really honestly expect three posts disagreeing with me. Ok, let's take one of them at a time. Pretty simple answers, this time around, though.

I wonder if Trunks goes to Gohan because something is gonna happen to Goku and Vegeta in this upcoming EP? After those 2, Gohan is the most logical choice to ask help from, especially since the last time he was there, Gohan was unstoppable...




...A guy can wish right?..

Highly unlikely, but you yourself made it obvious you already know that. Not only has Gohan quit fighting, he was actually, at least temporarily, "wiped out of existence" in DBSuper - at least for now, he might come back in some minor role at some point afterwards. They seem to cherrypick according to very strategized specifications who's gonna play a significant role in each arc, most of the times for reasons that have to do with what they know the fans want to be seen brought back (characters and their respective techniques, with Mirai no Trunks and his trademark f**** future timeline in ruins being just the latest example).

Uh, did you forget that they made it a point to show that he learned from the F arc and he went back to training? He was even going to be part of the tournament instead of Piccolo but didn't go due to already having something scheduled. This is pretty much the perfect time for Gohan to do something, even if it's not necessarily super major.

Yeah, sure, he went back to training with Piccolo - who should be leagues behind him if Gohan were at his best, but let's forget about that for now - but have you seen him make any appearance until now in any of the episodes of the new arc? I, like you or anybody else, can only speculate on that, I was just stating my opinion that I don't really think he'll be doing pretty much anyuthing. If he does show up and if he even goes as far as fighting actively, you can be sure Goku and Vegeta will be the ones to take care of business. Gohan fighting in this arc would only serve the purpose of having him at least show up and throw a few punches before getting his shit kicked out of him again in a miserable way.

he would be thoroughly disappointed and surprised at what Gohan has become after the last image he had of him was as a Super Saiya-jin 2 thrashing Cell and saving the world, as the strongest fighter there ever was in his - and everyone present there's - eyes.

Why would Mirai Trunks be disappointed? It's more likly that he would be happy for Gohan.

In one way, perhaps, but Trunks needs as many ultra-powerful allies and friends as he can get, and as far as he knows, and until somebody explains what happened in the Majin Buu, Beerus, Freeza and 6th Universe arcs, he'll be thinking of Gohan as his best hope.

he would be thoroughly disappointed and surprised at what Gohan has become after the last image he had of him was as a Super Saiya-jin 2 thrashing Cell and saving the world.

Trunks was dead when Gohan killed Cell, thus saving the world.

Yeah, but not only was he alive long enough to see Gohan become "invincible" and thrash Cell, he was obviously later on told what happened and how Gohan finally finished Cell off.

[Kanassa]

In one way, perhaps, but Trunks needs as many ultra-powerful allies and friends as he can get, and as far as he knows, and until somebody explains what happened in the Majin Buu, Beerus, Freeza and 6th Universe arcs, he'll be thinking of Gohan as his best hope.

Not really, without knowledge of what happened after Cell, the only pople he knows would be getting stronger would be Vegeta (Since he didn't know Goku came back); not Gohan. And again, he would only be dissappointed if he found out Gohan was strong enough and didn't know Vegeta and Goku had far surpassed Gohan. Aas the episode seem to indicate, Turnks will know about Vegeta and Goku's power before meeting GOhan again.

[MaGyunia]

In one way, perhaps, but Trunks needs as many ultra-powerful allies and friends as he can get, and as far as he knows, and until somebody explains what happened in the Majin Buu, Beerus, Freeza and 6th Universe arcs, he'll be thinking of Gohan as his best hope.

Not really, without knowledge of what happened after Cell, the only pople he knows would be getting stronger would be Vegeta (Since he didn't know Goku came back); not Gohan. And again, he would only be dissappointed if he found out Gohan was strong enough and didn't know Vegeta and Goku had far surpassed Gohan. Aas the episode seem to indicate, Turnks will know about Vegeta and Goku's power before meeting GOhan again.

Given what we saw in the next episode's preview, one can assume that logically they're going to move pretty fast in telling Trunks what happened in the present timeline since he departed to his own future timeline after Cell was killed. They might not go into detail on every single transformation or event that happened during all the arcs between one and the other, they'll just tell him the basics, I assume. Trunks will be surprised at least at that, but that's not the "surprise" element we're discussing here anyway. After so much stuff that happened, another thing he'll be surprised will be the level Goku and Vegeta reached after and during the Majin Buu, Beerus, Freeza and 6th Universe arcs, as it's leagues above his, or at least leagues above the level he - or anyone else - was at at the time of the Cell Games.

Sorry but I don't agree with you when you say that he expects Vegeta to be the only one to have gotten stronger, excluding Gohan. He obviously knows Vegeta will have kept on training and evolving, as that's his character, but why on earth would he expect Gohan to stop fighting or training?

As far as he knows until somebody - or everybody present - explains to him what happened during his absence in the present timeline, he'll be looking at Gohan as his best hope (not the only one, though), since the last image he had when he was in the present timeline was of Gohan beating the sh*t out of Cell in a stage far above Goku's or Vegeta's or his or anybody else's in the universe - as far as he knew -, although Goku's presence and being alive is also always an additional ray of hope that cannot be dismissed.

[Pannaliciour]

Maybe the z fighters think majin buu has damaged the future. Thats why future Trunks returned.

[Kanassa]

In one way, perhaps, but Trunks needs as many ultra-powerful allies and friends as he can get, and as far as he knows, and until somebody explains what happened in the Majin Buu, Beerus, Freeza and 6th Universe arcs, he'll be thinking of Gohan as his best hope.

Not really, without knowledge of what happened after Cell, the only pople he knows would be getting stronger would be Vegeta (Since he didn't know Goku came back); not Gohan. And again, he would only be dissappointed if he found out Gohan was strong enough and didn't know Vegeta and Goku had far surpassed Gohan. Aas the episode seem to indicate, Turnks will know about Vegeta and Goku's power before meeting GOhan again.

Sorry but I don't agree with you when you say that he expects Vegeta to be the only one to have gotten stronger, excluding Gohan. He obviously knows Vegeta will have kept on training and evolving, as that's his character, but why on earth would he expect Gohan to stop fighting or training?

Because as far asTrunks knows, there was no more threats on Earth, thus meaning Gohan wouldn't have reason to get stronger. Vegeta is the only one Turnks would for sure know to have gotten stronger.

[ryou766]

@Kanassa: There is absolutely no reason for Trunks to assume that Gohan stopped his training. Yes, the world was at peace at the time, but that didn't necessarily mean a new threat wouldn't rise up in the future. Hence why although Mirai Trunks had defeated No. 18, 17 and Cell, he continued to train in order to become stronger while at the same time rebuilding his own world.

As far as Trunks was concerned, Gohan was the strongest on Earth and Goku was dead; refusing to be revived. Therefore, it's safe to say that like Mirai Trunks in HIS timeline, Gohan would resume the responsibility of ensuring the safety of the Earth.

[kinisking]

Any confirmation that trunks continued to train? And Ma, you say him getting his shit kicked in like it isn't something that happens to everyone including Goku. As long as he's not the main character, he's never going to actually get the final laugh on the main villian. He might have a moment where he looks cool and then the villian gets the upper hand beating the shit out of him. Same with vegeta. That's if he gets stronger though.

[ryou766]

@kinisking: It was noted in the letter Mirai Trunks had sent to Bulma regarding Freeza's return and his apologizes for not being able to participate in the fight. Bulma later posted it on the official blog (which was used to promote RoF).

Hoping this letter finds you well, mother.

I have heard a rumor about Freeza being resurrected over in your world. It seems that things have once again changed from the history I know, due to my meddling in the past…

But I wonder how in the world Freeza could possibly come back to life, after I hacked him into pieces and wiped him out with my ki.

No, I should have fully confirmed that I had obliterated him such that he could never be revived. I am truly sorry that my weakness brought this trouble upon you. I wonder if you will be alright.

Were it possible, I would like to travel to the past again and fight alongside Son Goku and the others, but I am sure they have all grown far stronger since I last saw them. No doubt father has kept up his training as well.

I will likewise train diligently to protect my world and my mother here in the future. Know that I am praying for your victory from this distant land.

My best wishes that you and father stay safe and sound,
Trunks

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/03/12/of ... days-left/