Extras on Dragon Box

Levlik · Post by **Levlik** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:27 am

jjgp1112 wrote:
ToshiMustgrind wrote:
Smooth Criminal wrote:The feature making fun of the American editing. That would be incredibly epic to experience, coming from Funimation themselves.
Wait... what is this?
It was on the Dragon Ball DBox. It made fun of the Ocean Dub and 2001 dub edits. Here's a link for more info:

http://www.kanzentai.com/dvd.php?id=dbox

Does anyone remember what exactly the last segment about Roshi's license censoring? I've never seen the 1995 dub outside of Curse of the Blood Rubies, but I guess the cut has something to do with the blade going into his head.

Krycek7o2 · Post by **Krycek7o2** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:29 am

Raki wrote:No extras are needed.

I actually agree with this. We are getting the footage and that alone should suffice. If FUNimation decides to bless with extras, then so be it. There's no reason to get hyped about these potential extras. We'll see when the time arrives.

Many have waited for true remastered footage, that alone is just awesome!

Now, IF we get the extra features, it would be nice get all the features from the Dragon Box Z ported over, including the CGI Dancing Video from the Second Box, LOL!

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:33 am

Just the two TV specials and the booklet. Having the episodes in Dragon Box quality is enough for me otherwise.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:59 am

I want the scouters lol and all the other cool toys and things the JP versions came out with.

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:04 am

I want the same japanese extras, that's why I'm much interested in japanese dragon box

jda95 · Post by **jda95** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:08 am

LeprikanGT wrote:I want the scouters lol and all the other cool toys and things the JP versions came out with.

I really don't think they're gonna start producing the gifts again just for this FUNi release, unfortunately.

Daimo-Rukiri · Post by **Daimo-Rukiri** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:42 am

Smooth Criminal wrote:The feature making fun of the American editing. That would be incredibly epic to experience, coming from Funimation themselves.

That was in the Dragon Ball release if I remember correctly...

I would like them to do a DBZ version of that though.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:46 am

I want the Japanese extras. I really don't care about the gifts and doubt that they'll be making those again, but the content of the discs should be more or less the same(but spread out across seven sets, obviously).

But they're not a necessary thing for me, really. It's more "Wow, that sure would be nice" rather than "Not having it would ruin the Dragon Boxes for me."

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:50 am

My (out-of-thin-air) guess as to how they got the Dragon Box footage and how they're releasing it for so cheap is that they're not getting the extras or the toys. Another part of the price is the American DVD market itself, but I'm sure the R1 Dragon Boxes would be a lot more expensive if we were to have the extras.

If we do get them I'm guessing (out of thin air, again) that they would probably come with the movies and the last disc of the series as there would likely be more disc space to use on such extras. Right now we're gonna get 7 episodes per disc with two audio tracks. We're not gonna be seeing a lot of extras.

Daimo-Rukiri · Post by **Daimo-Rukiri** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:11 am

Kendamu wrote:My (out-of-thin-air) guess as to how they got the Dragon Box footage and how they're releasing it for so cheap is that they're not getting the extras or the toys. Another part of the price is the American DVD market itself, but I'm sure the R1 Dragon Boxes would be a lot more expensive if we were to have the extras.

If we do get them I'm guessing (out of thin air, again) that they would probably come with the movies and the last disc of the series as there would likely be more disc space to use on such extras. Right now we're gonna get 7 episodes per disc with two audio tracks. We're not gonna be seeing a lot of extras.

If they had the toys and the gigantic box the Dragon Boxs came in we'd see a $1000 price tag instead of $80 a box, but we'd also only see probably 1 box though as this is the R1 market.

I'd like to know how they're fitting 42 eps on 6 disks, I'm sure it's 7.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:15 am

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:I'd like to know how they're fitting 42 eps on 6 disks, I'm sure it's 7.

Hopefully FUNi will realize that 6 disks isn't enough for 42 episodes and decide to go with 7.

Maybe if we email them...

Daimo-Rukiri · Post by **Daimo-Rukiri** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:23 am

Technically you CAN fit 2 audio tracks and 7 episodes per disks without losing quality, I've also noticed that R1 DVDs have more space... Or they're using a special DVD for this release who knows.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:57 am

Daimo-Rukiri wrote:Technically you CAN fit 2 audio tracks and 7 episodes per disks without losing quality

No. It is technically impossible for them to preserve the exact same encodings as the original Japanese releases while still tossing on an additional audio track and then upping the episode count by one.

What you personally define as "losing quality" is not the same thing as the technical reality.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:22 am

Big Boss wrote:
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:I'd like to know how they're fitting 42 eps on 6 disks, I'm sure it's 7.
Hopefully FUNi will realize that 6 disks isn't enough for 42 episodes and decide to go with 7.

Maybe if we email them...

I think e-mailing them is how the bricks went from 5 to 6 discs.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:30 am

Kendamu wrote:
Big Boss wrote:
Daimo-Rukiri wrote:I'd like to know how they're fitting 42 eps on 6 disks, I'm sure it's 7.
Hopefully FUNi will realize that 6 disks isn't enough for 42 episodes and decide to go with 7.

Maybe if we email them...
I think e-mailing them is how the bricks went from 5 to 6 discs.

Alright.

I think I'll give it a shot...maybe you guys should too. The more people do it, the better chance of it happening.

EDIT: Ehh, what's their email?

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:38 am

feedback@funimation.com

I just sent them an e-mail, too. I think everyone should.

EDIT: Oh! Request a receipt so you know that your email has been read even if they don't intend to reply.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:42 am

Kendamu wrote:feedback@funimation.com

I just sent them an e-mail, too. I think everyone should.

EDIT: Oh! Request a receipt so you know that your email has been read even if they don't intend to reply.

Alright, cheers.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:08 am

Alright, I've sent an email;

Big Boss wrote:Dear FUNimation,

I would first like to express how delighted I am with you regarding your acquisition of the Dragon Box from Toei Animation. Us Dragon Ball fans have been waiting for this release for a long time, so your announcement of the set came as a surprise, and with excitement.

Now, your press release and representative stated that "Dragon Box 1" will contain the first 42 episodes of Dragon Ball Z across 6 disks. This may pose a potential problem, as that means 7 episodes, as well as 2 audio tracks and subtitles, will have to be crammed onto 1 disk...lower video/audio bitrates will have to be forced to make sure it fits on the DVD. Unfortunately, this means a compromise in video and audio quality. The Dragon Box's have always been about quality, so you can imagine how the majority of us are feeling about this issue. So, what we are all suggesting (and I'm sure you'll be getting quite a few of these emails) is that you spread the 42 episodes over 7 disks, instead of 6. This means 6 episodes will be fit onto 1 disk, thus allowing more space and higher video/audio bitrates for our viewing pleasure. It also ties in with the Japanese Dragon Box, as they had 6 episodes per-disk, too.

Thanks for your time, and we hope you'll address this issue.

I would also like a receipt, thanks.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:11 am

Mine was like:

My Email wrote:Hello,

I've just noticed that the Dragon Box collection has been announced for a release in the US and I'm very excited over it! I also noticed that there are going to be 42 episodes on 6 discs. If I remember correctly, originally when the Season Sets were announced that you originally had 39 episodes on 5 discs planned until it was brought to your attention that there would be some loss-of-quality. So, to prevent that, you then announced that the Season Sets would be 6-disc sets.

Going along the same lines, I know that the Dragon Box encodes take up a lot of disc space. In order to preserve 100% of the quality of the Japanese Dragon Boxes (which their single releases are 6 episodes per disc with one audio track and no subtitles), wouldn't it be safer to put 42 episodes on 7 discs instead?

Also, I want to say "Thank you!" for bringing the Dragon Boxes to the USA. You've made many Dragonball fans, including myself, extremely happy!

Please email a receipt when you read this and, if possible, please reply.

Thank you,
Josh

I don't know much about bitrates and lightsabers so I didn't really site anything. Hopefully someone who known more about that stuff will also send an email.

Big Boss · Post by **Big Boss** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:16 am

You think this deserves it's own thread?