US Broadcast of Dragon Ball Z Kai Speculation

[Mewzard]

I'd say that Funi could put Kai on Adult Swim uncut. Besides, didn't Adult Swim mention they acquired three anime shortly before this announcement? I can imagine that Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Kai would be good crowd drawers for Adult Swim's anime block. Anyone else agree?

[Greenman]

I'd say that Funi could put Kai on Adult Swim uncut. Besides, didn't Adult Swim mention they acquired three anime shortly before this announcement? I can imagine that Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Kai would be good crowd drawers for Adult Swim's anime block. Anyone else agree?

I kinda agree in that it could get decent ratings compared to the other anime on AS. I think that Adult Swim wouldn't want a series with such a non-"adult" reputation though.

[Mewzard]

Wait, my mistake, Funi confirmed yesterday that Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is coming to Adult Swim next month.

And what's Adult can be decently subjective. AS airs a lot of Shonen anime, which is far from adult. I don't see why the series couldn't fit in decently.

[Big Momma]

I'd say that Funi could put Kai on Adult Swim uncut. Besides, didn't Adult Swim mention they acquired three anime shortly before this announcement? I can imagine that Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood and Kai would be good crowd drawers for Adult Swim's anime block. Anyone else agree?

I kinda agree in that it could get decent ratings compared to the other anime on AS. I think that Adult Swim wouldn't want a series with such a non-"adult" reputation though.

They've had shows like "Home Movies" and "Astro Boy" before. And besides, most of the people who did watch DBZ back in it's American Heyday are probably over the age of 18 by now.

[Cold Skin]

What I wonder is if they will keep the insert songs.

They will likely keep the original Kai soundtrack, but would they really air a scene when the character speaks English and the background music has Japanese lyrics? Have they already aired any version of Dragon Ball with the Japanese insert songs while characters are talking in English (I mean really "air", not on DVDs)

I know in France, with their horrible unaccurate dub version, they kept the original score, however any Japanese song was discarded: openings were replaced with other (dumb) songs and insert songs were the instrumental versions.

I know that original Japanese openings and endings are aired in mangas nowadays (along with trailers for the next episode), but I still haven't heard any insert song in any dubbed episode, which makes me wonder if it's possible for a country to air an "in-episode" scene with a Japanese song playing or if it would be judged too "exotic" for occident (just like any Japanese song is discarded from any radio for the same reason). I wonder f it's possible that they'll do it if they air Kai on whatever channel they pick, and if it's not possible, if they'll re-sing the lyrics in English with another singer, or air the instrumental versions they might have received from Toei (like France did), or replace it altogether...

Aside from that point, this is obviously the occasion for them to find new "perfect" voices for some characters. The Japanese version replaced some voices, so it would be fair that they do the same. Even voices from main characters (please, just give Freezer a new voice as charming as the Japanese one... or just a new voice that is acceptable at least!). And work on a more perfect translation, cause it's always something good to do!

[Mewzard]

During Funimation's dub of the Skypiea arc, they had Jerry Jewell sing We Are in the background when they got launched up the Knockturn stream. Not even the singer they used for when they actually dubbed it.

Remember, this isn't just a cut and paste scene, they'll likely speak when appropriate to speak, not just to fill in time. Besides, I don't think they have too many silent pauses in Kai compared to Z.

I say they'll likely dub the insert songs, but we'll have to wait and see with Kai's dub.

[B]

If the OP/ED is dubbed, the insert songs will be too. FUNimation has stayed consistent with this with various shows.

So much so, it's a shame they don't bring over OSTs...

[Cold Skin]

During Funimation's dub of the Skypiea arc, they had Jerry Jewell sing We Are in the background when they got launched up the Knockturn stream. Not even the singer they used for when they actually dubbed it.

Remember, this isn't just a cut and paste scene, they'll likely speak when appropriate to speak, not just to fill in time. Besides, I don't think they have too many silent pauses in Kai compared to Z.

I say they'll likely dub the insert songs, but we'll have to wait and see with Kai's dub.

If the OP/ED is dubbed, the insert songs will be too. FUNimation has stayed consistent with this with various shows.

So much so, it's a shame they don't bring over OSTs...

I guess we'll have a clue when we see the first episode then, the way they handle the opening shall be a hint to what they'll do with insert songs later (the first one being Over The Star in episode 17 as far as I remember).

When they dub insert songs, do you know if the new lyrics are usually faithful to the original or more like freely adapted? I mean, basically, what is your opinion on dubbed version of the Japanese songs, do you think it would be a good initiative on their part or not?

[B]

I'd have to spot-check the insert songs I've heard, but their OP/ED dubs are pretty faithful translations.

[Metalwario64]

If the OP/ED is dubbed, the insert songs will be too. FUNimation has stayed consistent with this with various shows.

So much so, it's a shame they don't bring over OSTs...

I can't wait to hear Chris Sabat singing Saiyan Blood!

[Puto]

During Funimation's dub of the Skypiea arc, they had Jerry Jewell sing We Are in the background when they got launched up the Knockturn stream. Not even the singer they used for when they actually dubbed it.

Remember, this isn't just a cut and paste scene, they'll likely speak when appropriate to speak, not just to fill in time. Besides, I don't think they have too many silent pauses in Kai compared to Z.

I say they'll likely dub the insert songs, but we'll have to wait and see with Kai's dub.

If the OP/ED is dubbed, the insert songs will be too. FUNimation has stayed consistent with this with various shows.

So much so, it's a shame they don't bring over OSTs...

I guess we'll have a clue when we see the first episode then, the way they handle the opening shall be a hint to what they'll do with insert songs later (the first one being Over The Star in episode 17 as far as I remember).

When they dub insert songs, do you know if the new lyrics are usually faithful to the original or more like freely adapted? I mean, basically, what is your opinion on dubbed version of the Japanese songs, do you think it would be a good initiative on their part or not?

The dub of the original Dragon Ball has some insert songs left in Japanese (while some others were removed), though with talking over it.

[Velasa]

It -has- been done in the US before, with Gundam Wing way back in 00-01. It's the only show I remember playing original Japanese insert songs on basic cable over here- other shows since have copped to the openings and endings being in Japanese, but I don't recall any other insert songs. For all I know this could just be a case that other shows I saw didn't have them <_<

I've never understood the appeal of translating songs though- they never sound right. Either the tempo is right or the words are right, never both at the same time because it's all but impossible to translate the rhythm of syllables across languages. What has made this concept such a big deal as of late?

[Big Momma]

If the OP/ED is dubbed, the insert songs will be too. FUNimation has stayed consistent with this with various shows.

So much so, it's a shame they don't bring over OSTs...

I can't wait to hear Chris Sabat singing Saiyan Blood!

No doubt. That would be amazing.

[linkdude20002001]

I've never understood the appeal of translating songs though- they never sound right. Either the tempo is right or the words are right, never both at the same time because it's all but impossible to translate the rhythm of syllables across languages. What has made this concept such a big deal as of late?

Keh! I do it all the time.

I guess it takes skill, but it's not impossible. I can usually write English lyrics to an entire song in about an hour. Why do they have such a hard time with just a minute and a half?

[penguintruth]

There's no reason to do a dubbed version of a song that's playing for a couple of minutes at the most.

And most dubbed songs end up sounding terrible.

[B]

There's no reason to do a dubbed version of a song that's playing for a couple of minutes at the most.

While there's validity in this, there have been shows where they've gone ahead and done just that, as pointless as it seemed.

[Innagadadavida]

There's no reason to do a dubbed version of a song that's playing for a couple of minutes at the most.

And most dubbed songs end up sounding terrible.

What about the fact that its fun! And its nothing a little reworked lyrics that mirror the tone of the original can't fix. You don't have to watch it. People like me really appreciate it. I look forward to hearing some English Dragon Soul and Yeah Break Care Break. The original will always be there if I don't like them.

I would have liked a translated Cha-La and We Gotta Power. Mostly because I don't like Hironobu Kageyama's vocal style.

[Big Momma]

I absolutely love Funi's english adaptations of the One Piece theme music. I can't wait until they get to "Mirai Koukai" and "Eternal Pose".

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

I'd like if the Kai episodes showed up on the PlayStation store under the FUNimation category. That way I could have Kai on the go on my PSP.

Usually I get mad when I see cool anime on PSN, but that's because I don't want to pay money. However, I'm telling you right now, if Sony and Funimation decided to do this I'd be all over it!

As far as the topic at hand. It feels wrong to think about the possibility of seeing Dragonball on Nick or Disney, if Kai makes it to television broadcasting I'd hope it be on Cartoon Network where it belongs. CN's would be stupid to not consider airing Kai, however given their current executive decisions these days I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't give the show a chance. Such a shame to see such a great Network go down the crapper.

[Innagadadavida]

Such a shame to see such a great Network go down the crapper.

As far as original programming, I have a feeling that Cartoon Network will come back up pretty soon. I just hope that they stop that live action BS.