Are the Saiyans immune to any sickness?

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Re: Are the Saiyans immune to any sickness?

Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:42 am

Dayspring wrote:It stands to reason that they have a much higher immunity than humans do, as they are in insane physical condition. However, people like Yamcha, Krillin, etc, would be just as immune. The weaker you are, the more likely you are to fall to the effects of disease. Also, you heal more slowly, which affects your immunity as well. Humans are redonkulously weak, so...
Substitute "weaker" by "not so healthy and in not so great physical shape" and you are right.

Stronger and weaker don`t work because Goku is so much stronger than the average human, that if he his resistance to diseases was proportional to his strength, he would be immune to them all. And this logic applies also to people like Krillin and Tenshinhan.

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Re: Are the Saiyans immune to any sickness?

Post by Dayspring » Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:23 pm

rereboy wrote:
Dayspring wrote:It stands to reason that they have a much higher immunity than humans do, as they are in insane physical condition. However, people like Yamcha, Krillin, etc, would be just as immune. The weaker you are, the more likely you are to fall to the effects of disease. Also, you heal more slowly, which affects your immunity as well. Humans are redonkulously weak, so...
Substitute "weaker" by "not so healthy and in not so great physical shape" and you are right.

Stronger and weaker don`t work because Goku is so much stronger than the average human, that if he his resistance to diseases was proportional to his strength, he would be immune to them all. And this logic applies also to people like Krillin and Tenshinhan.
I disagree. In real life, the stronger you are, the higher your immune system. However, "strength" is pretty much just really resistant muscle fibers, which is why really healthy people still get sick. In other words, a person strong enough to lift 400 pounds is less likely to get sick than someone who can only lift 20 pounds, but their upper arm strengths have nothing to do with a person's lungs being resistent to bacteria. So strength is related to immunity, but not directly proportional at all.

Random number example: Let's say you're born with 5 "immunity points" and then for every 1,000 BP points a person has, 1 point comes from a higher immunity. So Goku at 8,000 has a whopping 13 immunity points, while everybody else still has 5. Any disease of "-6" or more can give a regular person a cold or worse, whereas diseases of "-6" to "-13" won't affect Goku at all. Added to all this, the physical form is repeatedly stated to have limits, so at one point his immunity will cap off, while his overall strength will continue to grow through trainings and SSJ levels.
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Re: Are the Saiyans immune to any sickness?

Post by rereboy » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:14 am

A wrestler can be much stronger than me and yet be much less healthier than me.

He can have allergies, he can have some sort of genetic decease, he can have a weak heart, he can be much more susceptible to all sorts of viruses ... Etc, etc. And I can have none of those and have a much higher illness resistance. But because he has so much more muscle mass than me and even though I would keep myself in very good shape, he would still be much stronger than me and I wouldn`t stand a chance against him in a contest of strength.

Strength does not equal immunity or resistance to illness at all. However, being healthier and keeping your body in top notch shape does. That`s what I was telling you. That`s what matters. Being able to lift more kilograms than someone else or being able to punch harder only matters as an probable indication of the fact that you are keeping yourself in shape, not as a direct conversion of strength-immunity or resistance to illness.

For example, I don`t know if you know this guy:

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This guy is or was a wrestler and his strength is amazing. He is like a tank.

However, I can tell you just by looking at him that its very possible for an average person with much less strength that takes care of his or her body to be more healthier than him.

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Re: Are the Saiyans immune to any sickness?

Post by KakaR0T » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:02 pm

rereboy wrote: Image

This guy is or was a wrestler and his strength is amazing. He is like a tank.
That's Mark Henry and he still wrestles.

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Re: Are the Saiyans immune to any sickness?

Post by Dayspring » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:35 pm

rereboy wrote:A wrestler can be much stronger than me and yet be much less healthier than me.

He can have allergies, he can have some sort of genetic decease, he can have a weak heart, he can be much more susceptible to all sorts of viruses ... Etc, etc. And I can have none of those and have a much higher illness resistance. But because he has so much more muscle mass than me and even though I would keep myself in very good shape, he would still be much stronger than me and I wouldn`t stand a chance against him in a contest of strength.

Strength does not equal immunity or resistance to illness at all. However, being healthier and keeping your body in top notch shape does. That`s what I was telling you. That`s what matters. Being able to lift more kilograms than someone else or being able to punch harder only matters as an probable indication of the fact that you are keeping yourself in shape, not as a direct conversion of strength-immunity or resistance to illness.

For example, I don`t know if you know this guy:

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This guy is or was a wrestler and his strength is amazing. He is like a tank.

However, I can tell you just by looking at him that its very possible for an average person with much less strength that takes care of his or her body to be more healthier than him.
I was referring more to people who, if not for training to become stronger, would otherwise be equal in strength. Sorry about the confusion.
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Re: Are the Saiyans immune to any sickness?

Post by rereboy » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:58 pm

That makes sense :wink:

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