Piccolo Jr. truly turned good from evil... but Vegeta?

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Re: Piccolo Jr. truely turned good from evil... But Vegeta?

Post by caejones » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:58 am

Bussani wrote:When they wished everyone back to life towards the end of the Buu saga, the wish is, "Bring back everyone except for the really evil guys." Vegeta is as surprised as everyone else when this also brings him back, and Goku comments that the dragon must think he's not a bad guy. It's worth noting that they made almost exactly the same wish after Vegeta blew himself up against Buu ("bring back everyone who died today except for the bad guys") and Vegeta wasn't brought back at that point. Either Shenlong and Porunga disagree, "really evil" is different to just "bad guy", or something changed between the two wishes.
Vegeta had already been wished back by Shenron in the Freeza fight.
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Re: Piccolo Jr. truely turned good from evil... But Vegeta?

Post by Bussani » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:22 am

caejones wrote:Vegeta had already been wished back by Shenron in the Freeza fight.
Oh yeah... My bad.
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Re: Piccolo Jr. truely turned good from evil... But Vegeta?

Post by dbgtFO » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:15 pm

Bussani wrote:When they wished everyone back to life towards the end of the Buu saga, the wish is, "Bring back everyone except for the really evil guys." Vegeta is as surprised as everyone else when this also brings him back, and Goku comments that the dragon must think he's not a bad guy. It's worth noting that they made almost exactly the same wish after Vegeta blew himself up against Buu ("bring back everyone who died today except for the bad guys") and Vegeta wasn't brought back at that point. Either Shenlong and Porunga disagree, "really evil" is different to just "bad guy", or something changed between the two wishes.
Yes and no. Vegeta had already been wished back once on Namek, by Shenlong, so Shenlong wouldn't be able to wish him back again.
EDIT: Damn! I thought I would be the first to post that :lol:
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Re: Piccolo Jr. truely turned good from evil... But Vegeta?

Post by Zephyr » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:46 am

caejones wrote:
Bussani wrote:When they wished everyone back to life towards the end of the Buu saga, the wish is, "Bring back everyone except for the really evil guys." Vegeta is as surprised as everyone else when this also brings him back, and Goku comments that the dragon must think he's not a bad guy. It's worth noting that they made almost exactly the same wish after Vegeta blew himself up against Buu ("bring back everyone who died today except for the bad guys") and Vegeta wasn't brought back at that point. Either Shenlong and Porunga disagree, "really evil" is different to just "bad guy", or something changed between the two wishes.
Vegeta had already been wished back by Shenron in the Freeza fight.
I may be wrong, but wasn't that changed when Dende became guardian?

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Re: Piccolo Jr. truely turned good from evil... But Vegeta?

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:33 am

Zephyr wrote:
caejones wrote:
Bussani wrote:When they wished everyone back to life towards the end of the Buu saga, the wish is, "Bring back everyone except for the really evil guys." Vegeta is as surprised as everyone else when this also brings him back, and Goku comments that the dragon must think he's not a bad guy. It's worth noting that they made almost exactly the same wish after Vegeta blew himself up against Buu ("bring back everyone who died today except for the bad guys") and Vegeta wasn't brought back at that point. Either Shenlong and Porunga disagree, "really evil" is different to just "bad guy", or something changed between the two wishes.
Vegeta had already been wished back by Shenron in the Freeza fight.
I may be wrong, but wasn't that changed when Dende became guardian?
No, if it had, Goku would have been revived, when they wished back everyone after Cell's death.

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Re: Piccolo Jr. truely turned good from evil... But Vegeta?

Post by Godo » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:56 am

dbgtFO wrote: No, if it had, Goku would have been revived, when they wished back everyone after Cell's death.
Yep. Dende said that he forgot to make so that the Dragonballs could revive those who once had died already.
And everyone wondered why Goku still was so jolly when hearing that ("Well, then all we have to do is to refrain from dying!").

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Re: Piccolo Jr. truely turned good from evil... But Vegeta?

Post by Zephyr » Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:41 am

Godo wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: No, if it had, Goku would have been revived, when they wished back everyone after Cell's death.
Yep. Dende said that he forgot to make so that the Dragonballs could revive those who once had died already.
And everyone wondered why Goku still was so jolly when hearing that ("Well, then all we have to do is to refrain from dying!").
Okay, just making sure. I knew they at least mentioned it.

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