Ginga Giri Giri Kai Hosts "Dragon Ball Z Uncensored"

[Gaffer Tape]

What?! I had no idea the Azrael from gaijinsmash was the same one from DBZOA. In all these years I never made that connection!

[Gaffer Tape]

What?! I had no idea the Azrael from gaijinsmash was the same one from the DBZOA. In all these years I never made that connection!

[JulieYBM]

Bah, posting glitch on Gaffer's post.


Anyhow, Dragon Ball Z Uncensored isn't the only site being brought back. Dragon Ball Z: The Third Season is also around.

[Castor Troy]

Bah, posting glitch on Gaffer's post.


Anyhow, Dragon Ball Z Uncensored isn't the only site being brought back. Dragon Ball Z: The Third Season is also around.

I've gotten most of it functional, but there's so many broken things like the ads on the side and the store links which aren't worth fixing. Plus the site just isn't that interesting aside from the nostalgia factor.

But if people really want it back, then I really want to make it presentable.

[TVfan721]

GS7X7, when you re-do your old movie reviews, you should have enough decency to keep the old reviews up too for comparison's sake and for honesty. People should have a right to see what you were like back then and what the general attitude was like back then. Re-writing your own history would be pretty low.

I definitely think it's a great idea to re-do your movie reviews because they're impossible to read right now. So I think your making the right decision but you should definitely keep the old ones up too.

You claim your not as over zealous as you used to be and that you're more normal now so I'll be very excited to see these writings of yours to see if you're telling the truth.

[GS7X7]

If you want more old sites to host, I heartily recommend Kienzan's edge.

The Peter Kelamis tribute site (Duncan guy, friend of Jon's), Ukdb.net and it's related site. (one before it? Or was it after)

Dragon Ball Blast is also really good, it did break news on DBZ fansubs back in the day and Ramza did some great stuff there.

Of course there is always planetnamek.com as well.

Of course, the 2 older incarnations of Daizex would be nice too, lots of good stuff in there too.

[TVfan721]

YGOU... that's the one with the guy yelling at the dub for using official card names and translating stuff more accurately than the terrible fansubs he treated like gospel, right? Funny site.

Dude, you can't blame him. The YGO dub is one of the worst English dubs ever made, if not THE worst. It makes the old DBZ dub look great in comparison. It's a piece of garbage.

[Adamant]

It makes the old DBZ dub look great in comparison.

Let's not say things we can't retract, now. It was certainly bad, but not THAT bad.

I'm not blaming him for ragging on the dub, not at all. I just find it funny that he's complaining about stuff in the dub that the dubbers translated accurately, and whatever terrible fansubs he was comparing it to got wrong. When his complaints include the fact that the dub uses "Shadow Game" instead of "Yami no game" (His fansubs used that, so it's obviously the one and only correct "translation") as well as the completely false claim that the phrase "Heart of cards" was invented by the dubbers and doesn't appear in the original, it's painfully clear the guy doesn't actually know a lick of Japanese, but it just comparing the dub script with a fansub script and pointing out any differences as "dub errors".

And complaining about the dub using the English names of the cards rather than direct translations of the Japanese names is just laughable. Wonder if he claimed that 4Kids ruined Pokemon because they used "Bulbasaur" instead of "Fushigidane" too.

...and now we're kinda off-track here.

(I never cared much about Yugioh, and didn't read/watch too much of it, so I didn't read too much of the site itself. I'm not claiming to be treating the site fairly, but I did get a laugh out of what I DID read from it)

[GS7X7]

GS7X7, when you re-do your old movie reviews, you should have enough decency to keep the old reviews up too for comparison's sake and for honesty. People should have a right to see what you were like back then and what the general attitude was like back then. Re-writing your own history would be pretty low.

I definitely think it's a great idea to re-do your movie reviews because they're impossible to read right now. So I think your making the right decision but you should definitely keep the old ones up too.

You claim your not as over zealous as you used to be and that you're more normal now so I'll be very excited to see these writings of yours to see if you're telling the truth.

For some reason it feels like I'm watching Fox News talk about something Obama said or did.

Anyway, I hadn't planned on deleting my old reviews or anything to "rewrite my history". That'd be a very futile idea if that was my motive. I planned on having the new stuff beside the old stuff and explaining the difference between the two. Besides, I can't exactly reprogram peoples' memories or the web archives with the technology I have available.

And I disagree that the movie reviews are -all- "unreadable". 6-8, and especially 8, were very well-done. I'll even gladly call 8 Psarosian. And yes, I trash the hell out of 7 but it's the worst dub of anything DB Funi's touched and that one android was turned into a semi-retarded redneck. The rest of the reviews I'm unsatisfied with, though I feel far too much -a ridiculous amount- of lofty weight is applied to those 4 in giving a blanket denigration to the entirety of my work at DBZU 2. I mean, those 4 reviews represent maybe 4-5% of the time I spent at DBZU 2 tops.

And on a different note, how do you feel about the fact that Funimation used mistranslated scripts for well over 1/2 their dub? And the fact that I was able to illuminate that information through my research on DBZU 2 thanks to piecing together numerous quotes from various employees at Funi? Or my making Gen's quote about "the replacing of the music" infamous?

[Daimo-Rukiri]

"This site is best viewed with Netscape Communicator." Ah, the memories of that browser. For nowadays... GO Firefox!

Hahah, nah. Go Chrome! Curious, anybody even use netscape^O^

[Castor Troy]

"This site is best viewed with Netscape Communicator." Ah, the memories of that browser. For nowadays... GO Firefox!

Hahah, nah. Go Chrome! Curious, anybody even use netscape^O^

Does netscape even exist anymore?

I used it and hated how I always had to cross check sites in both Internet Explorer and Netscape since some sites worked better in one or the other. I eventually settled on Internet Explorer because Netscape sucked at tables and javascript.

[TVfan721]

And on a different note, how do you feel about the fact that Funimation used mistranslated scripts for well over 1/2 their dub? And the fact that I was able to illuminate that information through my research on DBZU 2 thanks to piecing together numerous quotes from various employees at Funi? Or my making Gen's quote about "the replacing of the music" infamous?

Obviously that stuff Funimation did sucks but look dude, I don't care. Dragonball Z has never been more to me than just a fucking cartoon show. As for your writing, your biggest problem is your grammar. All of your stuff was impossible to read because you seem to struggle with paragraphs and you had an annoying habit of going into insane rants and posting in all capital letters. I have never once been able to follow a single article/review you've written all the way through. It's just too difficult.

[GS7X7]

Can't find even one nice thing to say about me? I pointed out some good stuff I did that'd be impossible to fuss about and you just avoid that area completely with a "I don't care" and "you take DBZ too seriously." Hmm.... so when I do something good you can't argue against, "I'm taking DBZ too seriously." And otherwise it's a painting with a broad brush and lumping everything I don't specifically point out as being good as being pure bad. I could post Jose's inteview again and it'd just be me "taking DBZ too seriously."

A shame the site's presently down or I could post positive stuff like I'd talking about doing earlier whenever dealing with you.

But it's okay, I've gotten kind of used to your fanatical anti-DBZU 2 hate posts you keep making and your obsessively attacking it all the time. At this point I'm mostly just bemused at your flames against me since it's become so old hat.

You still need to get over whatever personal feelings you have against me though. For chrissake, I get along better with an employee who made the music that I used to criticize and tar and feather so much than I do with you! Hell, I can't even talk about wanting to redo some of my old work without your attacking me for it! There is literally no pleasing you.

So yeah, whoever you are, it's gotten obvious -and it's getting more blatantly so each time- you have a pretty obsessive hatred about me and stuff I wrote years ago and I don't think that's about to change anytime soon so I'm not too worried about you nor do I take your criticisms all that seriously since I really do feel they're motivated more by some intense personal animosity against me than by anything else.

[Kaboom]

Enough personal-level bullcrap, please, from both of you. Keep it about the show and the site.

[TVfan721]

I'm curious as to why it's so special for people to keep Chris' old site around. If everyone can access the site through archives, then why would anyone want to spend money to keep the site going? Unless, it's free to host it, I don't know if it is.

[Castor Troy]

I'm curious as to why it's so special for people to keep Chris' old site around. If everyone can access the site through archives, then why would anyone want to spend money to keep the site going? Unless, it's free to host it, I don't know if it is.

Sadly, as the years go by, domain squatters try to get recently expired domains and have a nasty habit of implementing a "robots.txt" file (which tries to get google to recognize the site in search engines, making the domain listed as "active" in google's eyes) to block them from being archived. Planet Namek used to be available through archive.org until a domain squatter got it.

Free hosts have been getting worse and worse with self imposed banner ads and bandwidth limits. If DBZU was hosted on a free host today, it would be swamped with banner ads, popups, and may even have a bandwidth limit imposed (Geocities had a 1GB per day limit before they went under, ugh).

While Chris's site is pretty old and outdated, he had a wit and sense of humor that still makes me laugh to this day. That alone is worth keeping the site around.

[GS7X7]

I owe a lot to Psaros. His site template was the design for all Uncensored sites that came after and he motivated me to do DBZU 2 and make tons of discoveries about Funimation that Funimation probably would have preferred I didn't. (thinks of Gen's uncle)

[TVfan721]

People talk about Psaro as if he was an American hero or something. All he did was make a small website about a cartoon show and pointed out the differences between the English and Japanese. Nothing he did was revoluntary in the slightest bit. People like Psaro and certain other people take this stuff way too seriously and completely forget that DBZ was, is, and always will be nothing more than a cartoon show.

Yes, what Funimation did in the 90's was bad, no disputing that but guess what? It's a business and as a business, you do what you gotta do to make money and they made tons. The fact that they're dub for DBZ is more accurate now and uses the original music is simply a natural progression as VegettoEX said last year. It was a natural business decision. I don't think a millionaire like Gen ever cared about some punk on the internet that constantly made personal insults about him and his wife and just made himself look like a fool.

[Castor Troy]

People talk about Psaro as if he was an American hero or something. All he did was make a small website about a cartoon show and pointed out the differences between the English and Japanese. Nothing he did was revoluntary in the slightest bit. People like Psaro and certain other people take this stuff way too seriously and completely forget that DBZ was, is, and always will be nothing more than a cartoon show.

Even Psaros himself said that in his goodbye editorial.

All it comes down to is that you just had to be there around that time when all of it was new and fresh.

[Gaffer Tape]

Whatever impact he had on Gen is irrelevant. What's important is the impact he had on the fandom. So many people were, in addition to being extremely entertained, got into the Japanese version because of Psaros. I know I was one of them. That was something that most people didn't have ready access to back in the day, so reading those episode comparisons was our only taste. Sure it's not something that has as much usefulness today, but, back then it was pretty special. And even if it's not needed as much, it's still just... fun. And there's nothing wrong with that.