Blaze's 508 Episiode Journey (Episode 3!)

[VegettoEX]

You say it as if everyone watches prefers the Japanese Version over English. It's almost sad how closed this community is to the other dubs.

The fact remains that this website (and by extension its forum) is based around the original Japanese version of the franchise, and that takes precedence over everything else -- English adaptations or otherwise. No-one's telling anyone they can't discuss other versions of the franchise (which happens every day in multiple threads), but rather than the general recommendation is to stick with the original for a more-complete discussion from all sorts of people.

Why do you people get all uppity with the sarcastic comments and eye-rolls when this is pointed out to you? Do you not visit the website? Did you not read the rules prior to registering on its forum? Why is any of this a surprise to you?

If someone wants to plow through an adaptation of the series, more power to them. To post it up on this specific forum and (1) expect any amount of significant contribution to the conversation based around a dub (the current and friendly "Hey, have fun!" comments seem to be about the extent of it), and/or (2) to not expect recommendations to the contrary is plenty naive.

Some people prefer watching something they understand instead of having to read while they watch.

Let's... just not.

[Turtle Marked Stone]

Don't worry dub buddy. I'm doing a dub marathon too but in Toonami order. That being said I feel I should warn you the dub gets drastically different a lot of the time. A character's backstory is totally altered in fact. Watch what you want to watch, I'm just giving you a heads up. For my money the dub is still enjoyable in its own right but you won't be getting very close to the exact story as written by Toriyama. Anyway how will you be watching Z? dub or original music? I personally recommend the original. Quality opinions aside, it will be conistant through the 3 series and movies.

[CODii]

The fact remains that this website (and by extension its forum) is based around the original Japanese version of the franchise, and that takes precedence over everything else -- English adaptations or otherwise.

Amen! This is not a Funi forum. DragonBall is a Japanese creation. The original Japanese version is the only version that can be consistently enjoyed by fans all around the world. Anything else is merely an adaptation. If you are so dedicated to your adaptation that you want to continue watching it, that is fine. However, there is no way that the people here that are truly dedicated to this site's message can sit by and not advise someone who is just starting out that the Japanese version of the show, being the original, is the recommended version. Stop treating advocates of the Japanese version with sarcasm. This site is made for the Japanese version of the show. Heck, you Funi dub fans should just be thankful that Mike is kind enough to allow you to use his website at all.

[SSJSteve]

BlazeGogeta watch it the way you want to watch it. Obviously the Japanese version is more accurate. But if you don't like reading subtitles then stick with the FUNi dub. To be honest, it won't make much difference either way, it's not like the show is completely different because you're watching it in English. Some people will say it is, but, it's not.

What must you think already .

[Turtle Marked Stone]

This site is made for the Japanese version of the show. Heck, you Funi dub fans should just be thankful that Mike is kind enough to allow you to use his website at all.

Well, that seems a bit harsh. I think they have every right to express their interest in the dub version as much as we do with the original. I wouldn't say they're lucky to be here or anything like that.

watch it the way you want to watch it. Obviously the Japanese version is more accurate. But if you don't like reading subtitles then stick with the FUNi dub. To be honest, it won't make much difference either way, it's not like the show is completely different because you're watching it in English. Some people will say it is, but, it's not.

I hesitate to start this kind of thing but I'd say it is a very different experience as a whole. Just look at Z and Kai in terms of the dub script, two very different shows just because of that alone. A lot of little changes tend to equal one very large change when all is said and done.

(This seems to border on off topic though so if any of the mods don't want us getting into this just say the word.)

[VegettoEX]

Well, that seems a bit harsh. I think they have every right to express they're interest in the dub version as much as we do with the original.

Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily go that far. I'd simply ask that folks recognize what this website is, how the community is an extension of that, and the fact that they agreed to certain things prior to registration. That's all .

[CODii]

This site is made for the Japanese version of the show. Heck, you Funi dub fans should just be thankful that Mike is kind enough to allow you to use his website at all.

Well, that seems a bit harsh. I think they have every right to express they're interest in the dub version as much as we do with the original.

It is harsh. That's the point. Nobody has any "right" to say anything on a website. What I'm trying to point out is the utter ridiculousness of treating the fans of the Japanese version with sarcasm.

Edit: Maybe I wasn't entirely clear. I was not suggesting a ban on dub fans. I was just trying to make the point that they should expect the Japanese version to be hoisted above all others on this site.

[Turtle Marked Stone]

It is harsh. That's the point. Nobody has any "right" to say anything on a website. What I'm trying to point out is the utter ridiculousness of treating the fans of the Japanese version with sarcasm.

Well, you get my gist when I say "right". It seems only fair that they get to express their love for their adaption if we can ours. Saying that they're lucky to even be here sounds silly in itself to me.

Honestly, I think it's ridiculous too when I hear stuff like "purist" or sarcastic quips about preferring the sub when people are just trying to educate. All I was saying is as a peer to a peer maybe we should pull it in a bit.

[CODii]

It is harsh. That's the point. Nobody has any "right" to say anything on a website. What I'm trying to point out is the utter ridiculousness of treating the fans of the Japanese version with sarcasm.

Well, you get my gist when I say "right". It seems only fair that they get to express their love for their adaption if we can ours. Saying that they're lucky to even be here sounds silly in itself to me.

Honestly, I think it's ridiculous too when I hear stuff like "purist" or sarcastic quips about preferring the sub when people are just trying to educate. All I was saying is as a peer to a peer maybe we should pull it in a bit.

I attached an edit to my post to hopefully clear up my point a bit. The last thing I want is for the community to be completely divided.

[Adamant]

I think they have every right to express their interest in the dub version as much as we do with the original.

*shrug*
We got a guy who gave no reason for why he's watching the English dub when he's got the original right there, and he's a new fan, so he's got no nostalgia clouding his judgment of anything. Certainly it should be in his best interest to be pointed out that said thing he's watching isn't going to be what he presumably thinks it is (and a bunch of people saying "I liked this shit when I was 5, so it's awesome for that reason" isn't really helping matters).

[Turtle Marked Stone]

I have no issue with people educating him on the version differences. I added my 2 cents on that matter in my first post in this thread. I just see nothing wrong with dub fans chiming in on why he may want to stick with the dub. I'm sure he has the ability to weigh the pros and cons of the two versions and go from there.

[penguintruth]

Well, since the English version of DBZ is essentially NOT DBZ, he should start watching the Japanese version there at the latest. But at least the original series dub for the most part accurately portrays the characters, even if some of the voice acting sucks (Tiffany Vollmer).

[Geisha]

Seeing how heated the argument got over whether he should be watching it subbed or dubbed... I cant help but wonder, what would happen if he doesn't like the series? What if one day he's like "Stoopid show!" bashes the crap out of it and declares it a bunch of bull.
I think everyone would hunt him down for that >_<. Since he's a new fan, I'm worried about him posting his first impressions in such an obviously biased and intense forum haha

Hope you enjoy it~!

[VegettoEX]

If he doesn't like the show, it's likely he won't even post further.

"Biased" is such a ridiculous and overused word on the Internet. We all have our comforts, preconceptions, likes, dislikes, preferences, experiences, knowledge, education, and so on and so forth. Is that "bias"...? No, it's "being a living human being".

Is this website and forum "biased" because it's based around the original Japanese version of a Japanese franchise...? I... guess... so...?

[Son Geeko]

Good luck on the journey! Hope you make many new discoverys on the way!

Also, come guys. He's a new fan for Kami's sake, just let him choose whatever version he wants to watch, whatever it's Japenese or English, it's all the same.

[CODii]

Seeing how heated the argument got over whether he should be watching it subbed or dubbed... I cant help but wonder, what would happen if he doesn't like the series? What if one day he's like "Stoopid show!" bashes the crap out of it and declares it a bunch of bull.
I think everyone would hunt him down for that >_<. Since he's a new fan, I'm worried about him posting his first impressions in such an obviously biased and intense forum haha

Hope you enjoy it~!

I hope he enjoys it, but if he ends up not liking the show, oh well. It's no skin off my teeth. I think that the only thing anyone ever was trying to say was that as someone just starting out, we would suggest he watch the show in Japanese.

[penguintruth]

Japenese or English, it's all the same.

Uh, no it's not.

[Chibi Gohan]

Japenese or English, it's all the same.

Uh, no it's not.

Agreed.

Only thing that is the same is the "basic" plot. There's countless instances where whats being said is pretty inaccurate and in some cases it's ridiculously off.

[CODii]

Japenese or English, it's all the same.

No it's not. The Funi dub is an adaptation of the original Japanese show. It most certainly is not the same.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Japenese or English, it's all the same.

You have no idea of how wrong you are.