Kai Episode 98 Canceled

[Kendamu]

This is the part where I just keep telling myself, "I still have the manga," over and over.

[XanatosVanBadass]

Well, it looks like its official. God has a personal vendetta against Kai.

[Castor Troy]

This is the part where I just keep telling myself, "I still have the manga," over and over.

And let's not forget the Dragon Boxes.

[MR.Mark]

This is the part where I just keep telling myself, "I still have the manga," over and over.

And let's not forget the Dragon Boxes.

Indeed, complete with it's slightly faded colors and 6th generation audio, the way it was meant to be seen!

[sbk]

Ending Kai with Goku deciding to stay dead, Gohan taking over, and Trunks returning to the future is fine with me really
Tbh it's not that necessary to see Trunks destroy the androids and ending Kai with Trunks destroying the androids was lame anyway, he's not that important of a character to end the series with.

[TripleRach]

There's been a trend lately of shows in Japan having a final DVD-exclusive episode. So I think it's quite possible Toei will do the same with Kai. It would be a way to boost sales for the last DVD and BD box.

And at least 97 is the end of the main story. It's not like the TV airings will end on an unresolved cliffhanger.

[Ahiru77]

This is the part where I just keep telling myself, "I still have the manga," over and over.

I was thinking the exact same thing.





Thank goodness for Akira.

[Paradox295]

This is the part where I just keep telling myself, "I still have the manga," over and over.

And let's not forget the Dragon Boxes.

Indeed, complete with it's slightly faded colors and 6th generation audio, the way it was meant to be seen!

*points to location*

Erm... wanna complain about a US-only release again?

[NeoKING]

They just don't care about Dragon Ball anymore.

[MetaMoss]

I'm real glad I started to get into Fullmetal Alchemist a week ago... The timing was almost perfect.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Ending Kai with Goku deciding to stay dead, Gohan taking over, and Trunks returning to the future is fine with me really .

I would totally be content with this ending too. Let's not forget it also has Vegeta giving up fighting!

[penguintruth]

I would have been fine with that ending... if it was the ending of the story. But it's not.

[Tanooki Kuribo]

I would have been fine with that ending... if it was the ending of the story. But it's not.

It's the end of the DragonBall Kai story. Sure, they could Kai the Boo saga, but they didn't so, this is where the story ends for this series.

Also, I hate the Boo saga and I'm not too crazy about the English DragonBall Z dub so, for me, DBZK kinda fixed all that.

[GotenDaisuki]

Also, I hate the Boo saga and I'm not too crazy about the English DragonBall Z dub so, for me, DBZK kinda fixed all that.

So, it's the perfect ending for you? I'm not too crazy about the Boo arc either, so I'm fine with Kai ending like this.

[Gaffer Tape]

It's the end of the DragonBall Kai story. Sure, they could Kai the Boo saga, but they didn't so, this is where the story ends for this series.

Indeed. I mean, it's not like Dragon Ball, or even Dragon Ball Z, ever began with Bardock fighting Freeza... but Dragon Ball Kai does... for some reason. It did its thing, and this is where its thing ends.

[GotenDaisuki]

Indeed. I mean, it's not like Dragon Ball, or even Dragon Ball Z, ever began with Bardock fighting Freeza... but Dragon Ball Kai does... for some reason. It did its thing, and this is where its thing ends.

That scene was added in the first episode of Kai to clear the story of Goku from the moment of his birth and recapping most of his childhood. In my opinion, it was a good decision, since some people might be confused or might be interested in Goku's childhood. It was also a good decision to tell all the events from the past of Dragon Ball to clear up the story up until the current situation.

[Gaffer Tape]

That scene was added in the first episode of Kai to clear the story of Goku from the moment of his birth and recapping most of his childhood. In my opinion, it was a good decision, since some people might be confused or might be interested in Goku's childhood. It was also a good decision to tell all the events from the past of Dragon Ball to clear up the story up until the current situation.

Well, had my statement been an opinion on the necessity of the montage, I would have said that, had they been concerned that people might be confused or interested in Goku's childhood, then maybe they should have started the series there instead of nearly 200 chapters later. But obviously they weren't terribly concerned about that.

Had my statement been my opinion on whether or not the Bardock scene belonged as part of that montage, I would have said that, no, I can't say that Bardock fighting with Freeza has anything to do with any of those nearly 200 chapters they glossed over with a montage. In fact, it doesn't appear in the story until much, much later.

I also would have said that, had Dragon Ball Kai's goal been to tell the story of the Saiya-jin and Freeza arc, then maybe starting with Freeza destroying Planet Vegeta would have been a good opener, as it would tie the entire series together to a single overarching theme and villain. But since that wasn't the overall story Dragon Ball Kai was trying to tell (what with that whole, completely irrelevant to Bardock and Planet Vegeta, Cell thing coming afterwards), it feels completely out of place to me.

But since the post you responded to was in no way referring to any of those things, I guess I will just reiterate what I said before: that since Kai opened in a way that in no way followed any other Dragon Ball work, then it seems to me to have earned the freedom to end in a manner that is similarly incongruous to the source material. Like Tanooki Kuribo said, this is the story that Dragon Ball Kai has told. It's not the story of the Dragon Ball manga. It's not the story of the Dragon Ball TV series. Nor is it the story of the Dragon Ball Z TV series. It is its own story, structured and told in its own way, and it happening to end at a different point is somewhat consistent with everything else about it.

[The Time Traveller]

*points to location*

Erm... wanna complain about a US-only release again?

Dude, I live in the UK too and I get the Dragon Boxes.

And if there was a UK release it would look horrible, either sped up slightly to make it PAL or interlace the shit out of it.

[TonyTheTiger]

We know that over the last couple months Kai has been quite the debacle. I don't blame anybody for pulling the plug. Let's be honest. As much fun as I had watching the series over the last two years (watching alongside it's Japanese airings is itself a special experience, I think), it was, and was always known to be, half-hearted at best and half-assed at worst.

Using recut footage of Dragon Ball Z as a way to spark a Dragon Ball renaissance of reinvigorated popularity doesn't quite strike me as the most prudent of plans. I think we're lucky it didn't turn out even worse.

As time passes, Kai is going to have a dubious place in Dragon Ball lore, controversial and infamous, and I'm sure people will remember it for the shenanigans as much as for the show itself, if not moreso. I've gone through my disappointed phase and now can just accept it for what it is. I'll eventually buy it on Blu-ray and try to archive as many of the Yamamoto episodes as I can along with the Kikuchi version. But I'm ready to move on. It's been a fun ride but I'm not going to dwell on it.

I think what I'm more interested in is seeing how FUNimation handles the situation. They've been marketing Kai as the new hotness, the way it was meant to be seen, true to the manga, etc. Given their advertising campaign, the whole ordeal kind of makes them look like assholes. And since they're essentially almost done with it themselves, I wonder how they'll follow it up. It certainly can't stand as a Z alternative. Kai is merely a nifty novelty. I'm not sure FUNi really expected that when they made their big push.

[Paradox295]

*points to location*

Erm... wanna complain about a US-only release again?

Dude, I live in the UK too and I get the Dragon Boxes.

And if there was a UK release it would look horrible, either sped up slightly to make it PAL or interlace the shit out of it.

I know, I have the 3rd box, but can't find any place to get the others that doesn't cost more than £30 (up1) or takes a month to deliver (supermart).

MangaUK/MVM/Beez's release are pretty good actually, with no interlacing or anything. However, if one of them ever releases DBZ, they'll have to use the Orange Brick masters, which is why I'm importing in the first place.