What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

Post by CatouttaHell » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:05 pm

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:Because there's no Piccolo, Gokû, Kame-sennin and Kuririn go after Raditz like they were going to before Piccolo interrupted (Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Chaozu don't fight because no-one knows their whereabouts). Raditz kills them
Goku doesn't choose/get ordered by his master to not let Raditz go? Gohan doesn't burst from the pod and smack Raditz so hard that broken-ribs Goku can hold him?
Since there's no Piccolo to ask Goku to stall Raditz for the Makankosappo, there's no lead-up for Goku to take Raditz by surprise and grab his tail. Meaning Goku would never be knocked down and tortured by Raditz, meaning there would be no screams of pain for Gohan to hear, meaning Gohan wouldn't burst out of his pod, attack Raditz and give Goku the opportunity to hold him in place for Piccolo's Makankosappo.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:11 pm

CatouttaHell wrote:This post got eaten in that strange forum glitch.
Yeah, thanks for restoring it. I think I sent a PM to VegettoEX about this problem, so I'm just waiting for a reply.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

Post by Cipher » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:06 am

I know we're getting into some retroactive reasoning here (which never suits Dragon Ball), but here we go:

Piccolo Daimao kills Shen-Long. At the beginning of the very next arc, we find out God can revive Shen-Long whenever he wants.

Way later, during the Freeza arc, God has Mr. Popo collect all seven Dragon Balls like it ain't no thang.

So why the hell didn't God just revive the dragon, have Mr. Popo zip around on his magic carpet to collect the balls, and then wish Piccolo Daimao back into a denshi jar? Nothing in the Piccolo Daimao or 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arcs needed to happen. You cannot avoid this.

Of course, the Saiyans would have shown up a few years later and conquered Earth. And then Babidi would have shown up and wiped out Freeza's occupants to revive Buu. And then eventually maybe Baby would have shown up or some shit. There's no making sense of things.

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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

Post by CatouttaHell » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:10 am

Or Kid Goku could just kill Kid Piccolo. Really, you could write an entire guide that consists of nothing but blatant opportunities for a villain to be defeated much earlier than they were. And really the series would get really boring if they went that route (imagine the entire Cell Arc consisting of them gathering the dragon balls and blowing Gero's lab up :lol: .)
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

Post by Cipher » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:17 am

Okay, okay. Wait. Wait. I think I have a way of explaining this.

So, by not doing the extremely obvious thing and having Mr. Popo gather the Dragon Balls to seal Piccolo Daimao away, God avoided a future in which the Saiyans ravaged Earth, and eventually Babidi arrived to revive Majin Buu. So God's poor reasoning actually saved the future.

So, he's God, right? And he can, like, foresee his own death, we find out? So I guess he saw the future, and that prevented him from being smart. And if he can see the future, he must have actually known what he was doing the whole ti-

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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

Post by Kid Buu » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:29 am

Cipher wrote:I know we're getting into some retroactive reasoning here (which never suits Dragon Ball), but here we go:

Piccolo Daimao kills Shen-Long. At the beginning of the very next arc, we find out God can revive Shen-Long whenever he wants.

Way later, during the Freeza arc, God has Mr. Popo collect all seven Dragon Balls like it ain't no thang.

So why the hell didn't God just revive the dragon, have Mr. Popo zip around on his magic carpet to collect the balls, and then wish Piccolo Daimao back into a denshi jar? Nothing in the Piccolo Daimao or 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arcs needed to happen. You cannot avoid this.

Of course, the Saiyans would have shown up a few years later and conquered Earth. And then Babidi would have shown up and wiped out Freeza's occupants to revive Buu. And then eventually maybe Baby would have shown up or some shit. There's no making sense of things.
Isn't there still a 1 year wait between all of this?

But if I'm wrong, maybe Kami is just a ****, a theory I'm willing to support.
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Re: What if Piccolo Daimao dodged Goku?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:15 am

CatouttaHell wrote:Or Kid Goku could just kill Kid Piccolo.
But Ma Junior was stronger than Piccolo Daimao, and God said that Goku would be safe from Piccolo if he stayed on God's Palace. Basically, it was better for Goku to train for three years at God's Palace to defeat Piccolo rather than going down and getting killed.
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