Dragon Ball and human psychology

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Kendamu » Mon May 23, 2011 9:11 am

Do some research. Come back with your next draft, and we can go from there.

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Eire » Mon May 23, 2011 10:58 am

SuperForteX wrote: But, I posted this because I believed it was true, so... hm, maybe I should become a philosopher.
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OP post was pretty funny, because with changed names it can be posted in every fansite. I'd even say that if you complain about discussions here, you've never seen "comics vs. manga" or "classic Star Wars vs prequels" threads. Your basic idea is obvious and accepted by everyone- some people are arguments resistant, some should watch their tension while posting, but you've come a bit too far with your statements that literally forces everybody to not take this seriously.
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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by jjgp1112 » Mon May 23, 2011 11:06 am

Um...what?! Toriyama likely didn't intend on any of that happening at all. He started drawing manga to support his smoking habit, and he made shit up as he went along. I highly doubt he put that much thought into the story.
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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Drayenko » Mon May 23, 2011 3:16 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Um...what?! Toriyama likely didn't intend on any of that happening at all. He started drawing manga to support his smoking habit, and he made shit up as he went along. I highly doubt he put that much thought into the story.
That's what he wants us to believe! Don't yo see it!? :idea: He had it all worked out since the beginning. Now it all makes sense. :D

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Akumaito Beam » Mon May 23, 2011 10:28 pm

Kendamu wrote:1) The Internet brings out everyone's inner douchebag.
This right here was a good post but I like point number one the best. I see this kind of thing everywhere I go.

For a related take on the reasoning behind a lot of these situations check out this article. It's a great website in general. The earlier articles there are a little too black and white for my tastes though.

This is why I always like to reinstate my posts are opinion. It may seem redundant but I really don't want to give off an aura of hostility.

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Saimaroimaru » Mon May 23, 2011 10:53 pm

I stopped reading the moment your compared Kid Buu vs Super Buu to Religion vs Science.

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by roidrage » Mon May 23, 2011 11:07 pm

Akumaito Beam wrote:
Kendamu wrote:1) The Internet brings out everyone's inner douchebag.
This right here was a good post but I like point number one the best. I see this kind of thing everywhere I go.

For a related take on the reasoning behind a lot of these situations check out this article. It's a great website in general. The earlier articles there are a little too black and white for my tastes though.

This is why I always like to reinstate my posts are opinion. It may seem redundant but I really don't want to give off an aura of hostility.
I can testify to this from personal experience, and certainly not just on the part of others. I don't think it has as much to do with scarcity and human evolution so much as it does everybody having a short-tempered, dickish side to them that the Internet allows them to express with anonymity.
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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Raithos » Tue May 24, 2011 12:39 am

I don't understand though, where does your basis for making links to the human psyche and a pink alien come into play? It feels like you're over-thinking DB for what it is, (a children's show?) :/

To extrapolate the concept of human violence, war and it's history surrounding these elements and apply it to Dragonball power level debates... I can see where you can try and make linkages... but I feel those linkages are being pushed to extreme limits. Although we debate here on the forum and may get our feathers ruffled when someone does not agree with our opinion, I believe that we are intelligent and rational enough to settle it in a calm manner that is acceptable for both sides. I can see how you'd make your linkages, but I don't find logic behind them.
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Could Dragon Ball hold the secret key to unlocking the final evolution of humans as shutting down the so-called hate-gene and ending all violence and war in the world? I think it's possible, and the results would be obvious, and it would really work--but no one is ever going to try, because no one would think to look here, at a manga/anime, as solving all the problems humanity is plagued with.
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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Zephyr » Thu May 26, 2011 7:40 pm

You honestly think just because Dragonball fans get into heated debates, backup their claims with nothing substantial, and get angry enough to start lobbing childish insults at each other, that its some sort of metaphorical representation of human nature and war?

Have you not been a part of any other fandom on the internet? Ever been to Youtube? This kind of rampant idiocy and "religious allegiance" transcends the Dragonball fandom by a long shot.

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Jackal puFF » Thu May 26, 2011 11:30 pm

It's in our nature to destroy ourselves.

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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Fri May 27, 2011 4:01 am

SuperForteX wrote:Akira Toriyama... maybe the most illusive visionary and profit of our time
Profit, yes. Prophet, you're in a tetrahydrocannabinol-induced euphoric state.

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Zarathustra » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:53 pm

I've always considered Vegeta to be a Nietzschean ubermensch, although I suppose that's more philosophical than psychological.

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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Eire » Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:26 pm

If Vegeta were one he would have no complex about surpassing Goku. Übermensch is so self-confident that he doesn't give a damn about proving his superiority.
Thinking of that- I have another type who would suit that more, but still not completely.
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Re: Dragon Ball and human psychology

Post by Fionordequester » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:49 pm

You know guys, I really think we're getting just a little too carried away about this whole topic. I mean, the Angry Video Game Nerd did basically the same thing in his second "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" review. The only difference is, the TC didn't say how ridiculous that idea was at the end of his post, but it still seems to me like an obvious joke post. Are you sure the TC didn't just want to make us laugh? It seems like one of those "So exaggerated and absurd that it obviously can't be totally true, but just logical enough that it's really funny" kind of jokes, you know what I mean?
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