Broly the strongest being of his time?

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Re: Broly the strongest being of his time?

Post by Dabooyaka » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:43 pm

Base Gohan broke out of Broly's grip, Videl survived hits from Broly. I'm I the only one that sees how stupid this movie is?

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Re: Broly the strongest being of his time?

Post by CatouttaHell » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:48 pm

Luke Groundwalker wrote:No he WASN'T training in those few years between the end of Cell arc and the beginning of Boo arc. He didn't start training till pre Tenkaichi Budokai which was just a couple of days. Broly - Second Coming is meant to take place in that era I believe since it has all of the characters with the clothing from those episodes and whatnot. There is absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise as Goku is dead, and Gohan misses him dearly and all that just like in those few episodes. It's an assumption, but the most likely and obvious one.
Then why did Gohan say he powered up considerably? Was he just lying to make himself feel better?

What does Goku being dead have to do with anything? Would Goku magically come back to life if Gohan trained? All we saw in those episodes is Gohan sparring with Goten and teaching Videl how to fly.

In Movie 10 he's training by himself while Videl is off gathering the Dragon Balls with the kids. In the canon story she didn't even know the Dragon Balls existed until after the Tenkaichi Budoukai.

Gohan is off training and wearing a gi when we first see him and he states himself that he's powered up considerably. The logical conclusion is that he HAS been training.
Luke Groundwalker wrote:I'm not talking about Boo arc Gohan, I'm talking about Cell arc Gohan. The assumption that Broly can beat SSJ2 Teen Gohan is absolutely absurd, especially when he was fighting Cell.
Enraged SSjin 2 Teen Gohan's hits didn't do a thing to Broly and he knocked him out of SSjin 2 with three hits.

Teen Gohan = Chibi Gohan, and going by Gohan's statement in Movie 10 it's quite likely that Teen Gohan >>> Chibi Gohan. So both Chibi and Teen Gohan are nothing to Broly.
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Re: Broly the strongest being of his time?

Post by FNF » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:49 pm

Luke Groundwalker wrote:
FNF wrote:That is movie 8 Broly who is weaker than Hachiyack. Not movie 10 Broly.
I wasn't talking about movie 10 Broly. Clearly he's more powerful, no doubt, but how powerful is completely up for debate I'd say. Broly never went SSJ2 so he probably doesn't have much of a chance against SSJ2 Gohan in his prime. And then there's Cell who is arguably more powerful than SSJ2 Gohan in his prime.
FNF wrote:Movie 10 Broly in his SSJ form alone is suggested to be stronger than MSSJ Goku (Buu arc).
I'm pretty positive Goku never went into that state in Boo arc. Secondly I think the context of this:
FNF wrote:In the movie 10 section of the Daiz it says;

'Broli possessed high battle ability from the time he was born. His personality is wild, and he is feared as the Legendary Super Saiyan. The Saiyan characteristic is that their battle ability rises each time they are revived from brink of death. Because of this, Broli has more power than he did seven years ago.

Super Saiyan
He transforms into a Super Saiyan, just like Goku and the others. Because he possessed high battle ability from birth, he is the owner of power that surpasses Goku's.
Just means he's more powerful than how Gohan knew Goku was at that point. Just reading that translation alone seems to imply that Broly is more powerful than Goku during the Boo arc, which makes no sense considering Goku has full control over becoming SSJ2 and he's able to go SSJ3. Goku would absolutely destroy Broly at that point of time if he was alive, not even a close match.

So in this context, I think it's referring to Goku at the Cell Games, which doesn't say much at all about Broly's power level in movie 10.

Let me break down my argument since both of you guys seem confused...

In terms of power level:
Super Perfect Cell > SSJ2 Teen Gohan > SSJ2 Adult Gohan > LSSJ Broly (movie 10) > SSJ Broly (movie 10) > Hachiyack > LSSJ Broly (movie 8 ) > SSJ Broly (movie 8 )

In terms of fighting polish (leaving Hachiyack out of this):
Super Perfect Cell > SSJ2 Teen Gohan > LSSJ Broly (movie 10) > SSJ Broly (movie 10) > LSSJ Broly (movie 8 ) > SSJ Broly (movie 8 ) > SSJ2 Adult Gohan

In terms of shonen spirit:
SSJ2 Teen Gohan >>>>>>>> SSJ2 Adult Gohan
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Re: Broly the strongest being of his time?

Post by Kaboom » Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:49 pm

I knew leaving this thread open was a bad idea.
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