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[KiddoCabbusses]

I don't really agree with the idea of having real commercial interruptions in my DVD Boxsets, myself.

On the note of jitter: I always thought every incarnation of Z has been jittery to some degree - whether it be my Nippon Gold or Anime Labs fansubs or the DBoxes. I honestly don't feel jitter's that big an issue,
I also tend to not be as concerned about colors as some others, because I actually find the DBox colors more appealing to my eyesight than other options, such as Kai's recoloring or the Orange Bricks. Color accuracy is also such a hotly-debated issue, both in terms of whether to correct the colors, and what the "correct" colors are, that I can't hold a strong opinion on it.
Either way, I do think Toei will work on this on a later Blu-Ray release.

(And I do believe it'll come eventually - I don't think Toei would let FUNi release those Blu-Rays if they weren't planning to do a version they themselves believed to be superior.)

[Daimo-Rukiri]

The Dragon Boxes are lacking in extras? Seriously? The tons of commercials, foreign dubs, tv specials, etc aren't enough? They could've given us the show by itself, which is the real reason for the boxsets, but were nice enough to give us all these little goodies. There's a reason the section where a majorities of these things are on Kanzentai is called "Our Main Wish List".

From a collector's view I'd view the Dragon Books as more interesting what with the character sketches and such. Since the majority of these clips could just be looked up on Youtube or the like.

There are many things to complain about the DBoxes but its lack of extras is certainly not one.

Firstly, I want to apologize, as I see that when I said "collector," I was not very clear on what I meant. I'm talking about the kind of people who focus on collecting footage in particular. The Dragon Books are certainly interesting in their own right. I also like looking through things like the Daizenshuu books. However, I am primarily into collecting videos, and that's the kind of "collector" that I was referring to. Hopefully what I said is a bit more clear now. My apologies.


Please also take note that when I say that I am "completely unsatisfied" with the Dragon Boxes, the biggest problems, by far and away, are with the audio, and then with the video. In fact, I completely agree with you that the main purpose of the sets is not to put every little extra on DVD, but rather simply to get the series out on DVD. However, their presentation of the series itself, even while just taking into account the audio and video, is _extremely_ flawed. If the Dragon Boxes had the original high quality audio and video, then I would not be nearly as upset with them.


Now, to the extras... I'll focus in on commercials. I agree that it was nice of them to put in what extras they did. The question is then, "how much is enough?" For a lot of (most?) people, what the Dragon Boxes have is quite enough. However...

Let me ask a question of those on this board who watched on fansub tapes. I know that there must be at least a few of you here. If you would, please check out my small sampling of commercials here: http://animepast.net/Museum/TV_Broadcas ... mmercials/
Now tell me... Regardless of whether you agree with my views on the Dragon Boxes, after watching those clips, doesn't it feel, even in the tiniest bit, that you're missing something while watching on the Dragon Boxes? Do you not feel even the slightest bit of nostalgia when seeing those nutty 5/8 guys again, for example? In my view, things like commercials, which are now relegated to being a small spattering of "extras" on DVD box sets, were in fact a part of the Dragonball viewing experience.


Make no mistake -- when I say things like that there should be a ton of commercials on the DVD sets, and that the commercials be inserted as real commercials inside the show (I don't think that I've said this yet, but it's what I think), I am fully aware that that's simply not possible on a DVD release. However, it is something that the DVD releases are lacking. I hope that I am making myself clear...


Hopefully what I'm saying makes some sense...!


-takarajima

Loling at Kurirn playing ps1^O^ I remember that one.

But you have to remember that TOEI is not going to have all of these if any of them, they were mostly produced for Bandai so if anyone has the film masters it's bandai which I doubt. I bet they're thrown out once used.

[dballfan]

People debating about a possible Toei blu-ray release should really look to the level sets if they haven't got them already. Apart from the title cards and NEPs the level sets are perfect. In terms of picture quality it is brilliant. I must also say that it's the most authentic to the original by far. Indeed it lacks the collectability of the Dragon Boxs' but I can almost guarantee you'll find yourself watching the blu-rays over the Dbox's 9/10 times.

[Pokewhiz7]

Considering that Kai was a flop in Japan, and that was on BD, I doubt they'll put the show on BD.

[AgitoZ]

People debating about a possible Toei blu-ray release should really look to the level sets if they haven't got them already. Apart from the title cards and NEPs the level sets are perfect. In terms of picture quality it is brilliant. I must also say that it's the most authentic to the original by far. Indeed it lacks the collectability of the Dragon Boxs' but I can almost guarantee you'll find yourself watching the blu-rays over the Dbox's 9/10 times.

It's not perfect. You already mention the lack of NEPs and original title cards, so it's already not the most definitive experience.

No matter how good the FUNi's transfer is, it's still a nth generation master. Not to mention those same masters are considerably darker in earlier episodes. If Toei were to make a blu-ray it would no doubt be better than FUNi's. It's awfully close, but it isn't the end all release.

[takarajima]

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[OutlawTorn]

Apart from the title cards and NEPs the level sets are perfect.

It's not perfect. You already mention the lack of NEPs and original title cards, so it's already not the most definitive experience.

No matter how good the FUNi's transfer is, it's still a nth generation master. It's awfully close, but it isn't the end all release.

With the exception of the title cards, that cannot be held against FUNimation. They have to work with what Toei provided them and, besides that, the caveat was made that it was considered a perfect product apart from what was obviously missing. As it is, this is the best Dragon Ball Z will look on Blu-ray until/unless Toei does their own release.

For me, personally, what takes the FUNimation Blu-ray a notch down from "perfect" is, unlike the Dragon Boxes, continuing to use the "generic" opening song instead of the original openings. I wonder what would be preventing FUNimation from co-funding a Blu-ray restoration with Toei from the original film masters, thus providing everybody with the absolute best possible product.

[kei17]

I wonder what would be preventing FUNimation from co-funding a Blu-ray restoration with Toei from the original film masters, thus providing everybody with the absolute best possible product.

FUNi would obtain less money in that case, I guess. That really is a nice idea though.