Did Cartoon Network finish showing the "Ultimate Uncut Ed."?

[Gonstead]

Yeah, I'd like at least a clip if someone has one of Vic as Burter in Z.

[Choujin Daizenshuu]

Boy, does this bring back bad memories.

I still maintain to this day that the airing of this dub uncut was one of the worst business decisions ever made by BOTH Cartoon Network and FUNimation.

[JulieYBM]

Are you guys sure??? I never seen Vic as Burter ever before Kai! It was Sabat since Budokai 1.

Yes. I emailed Mignogna about it.

I voiced burter in the episodes, not the games. And yes... I am playing nezumi in one piece


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So, unless Mignogna's website and the listed email address is a hoax, it's for real.

If Mignogna was unavailable for recording the 'Season Three' stuff I wonder just how quickly Sabat zoomed through recording all of Burta's lines for Two and Three.

[Metalwario64]

Wasn't the "broadcast dub" track actually the broadcast version until the season three episodes kicked in the "season two" set? I remember that being the case because during Goku's fight with Vegeta, in the broadcast track Vegeta correctly pronounces Kaioken, but incorrectly pronounces it "Kay-o-ken" in the 5.1 japanese bgm track.

I might check later, but is it the same case with Butta's voice? I also remember all of the original voice recordings on the Ultimate Uncut episodes having different quality to the redubbed lines (which sounded really low on bass), and Butta's voice didn't sound different audio quality wise until the season three redub kicks in.

[dragondyle]

Did they broadcast all the title cards in the UUE format (that red screen with "ドラゴンボールZ")? I'd like to see some unreleased ones.

It probably did, since I know for a fact they used the flashing red UUE intro. I'm interested in this as well, but more interested in Vic's Butta.

Yes, they did. The aired the UUE just as they appeared on the DVD's. Cartoon Network actually aired ALL UUE but the DVD's never made it.

[Attitudefan]

Wasn't the "broadcast dub" track actually the broadcast version until the season three episodes kicked in the "season two" set? I remember that being the case because during Goku's fight with Vegeta, in the broadcast track Vegeta correctly pronounces Kaioken, but incorrectly pronounces it "Kay-o-ken" in the 5.1 japanese bgm track.

I might check later, but is it the same case with Butta's voice? I also remember all of the original voice recordings on the Ultimate Uncut episodes having different quality to the redubbed lines (which sounded really low on bass), and Butta's voice didn't sound different audio quality wise until the season three redub kicks in.

It is not!

Yes. I emailed Mignogna about it.

He probably means Kai not the original Z. And if he did, where's the evidence???

[AgitoZ]

He probably means Kai not the original Z. And if he did, where's the evidence???

I don't know.

He specifically mentions the games, there aren't any Kai games in the US as far as I know of. Not to mention the DVD which Nezumi appears in came out (not even taking into account recording) a whole month before Kai premiered in Japan.

I also don't see any reason why we should doubt the man, if it's really him.

[Attitudefan]

In all honesty, if someone couldn't make it for recordings for the orange bricks, why would they redub a redub? It makes no sense whatsoever, certainly if the acting was good enough! The whole point (according to Sabat) was to make the series consistent to everything brought out at that point. So all the voices would be the exact same, from games, to movies, to the show itself from DB to DBZ to DBGT. If anything, Vic was saying, "yes, I play burter in the show as I have been recently casted for him." I think he meant Kai as the English dub probably started around that time, maybe not recordings, but the casting portion of DBZ KAI. Z was over and done with by the point someone asked that.

PS Games were still coming out at the time Kai was being announced in Japan. Look at RB 1, Sabat is Burter.

[JulieYBM]

This is what I get for not posting a date. The email is from 9/25/08.

[Gonstead]

I'd still like some sort of audio evidence that this is true.

Surely Funimation still have the masters for the Ultimate Uncut series?

[Ashura]

Sure... they likely also still have the masters and such for the Saban era dub as well as tons of other stuff, but they're not likely to release it. This is unfortunately something that only interests the niche of the niche fans.

[Attitudefan]

This is what I get for not posting a date. The email is from 9/25/08.

Okay then. That changes a lot of things.

[wjbraden]

Ah yes, I vividly remember back in 2005 watching the uncut episodes every night while I worked out on the treadmill. DBZ always got me pumped when I watched it.

[DinoChow]

Did they broadcast all the title cards in the UUE format (that red screen with "ドラゴンボールZ")? I'd like to see some unreleased ones.

Well.......now I'm kicking myself. When the UUE episodes originally aired on Cartoon Network, it was my first chance to see the Saiyan and Namek stuff (I was just a kid), and I thought it was awesome, so I put all 66 episodes on VHS tape in their full, complete form. And then, when the Orange Bricks started coming out, I threw away the tapes. In hindsight, they would have made for a valuable historical artifact.

Terrible dub, but I enjoyed it at the time for the story, uncut animation, and occasional swear word. Even as a kid, Goku letting Vegeta live because "Vegeta might magically turn good one day" pissed me off.

[Perfect]

Did they broadcast all the title cards in the UUE format (that red screen with "ドラゴンボールZ")? I'd like to see some unreleased ones.

Well.......now I'm kicking myself. When the UUE episodes originally aired on Cartoon Network, it was my first chance to see the Saiyan and Namek stuff (I was just a kid), and I thought it was awesome, so I put all 66 episodes on VHS tape in their full, complete form. And then, when the Orange Bricks started coming out, I threw away the tapes. In hindsight, they would have made for a valuable historical artifact.

Terrible dub, but I enjoyed it at the time for the story, uncut animation, and occasional swear word. Even as a kid, Goku letting Vegeta live because "Vegeta might magically turn good one day" pissed me off.

You should've been more pissed off that he was gonna let the Ginyu's live.

[Son Geeko]

Boy, does this bring back bad memories.

I still maintain to this day that the airing of this dub uncut was one of the worst business decisions ever made by BOTH Cartoon Network and FUNimation.

....Why?

[Pokewhiz7]

Boy, does this bring back bad memories.

I still maintain to this day that the airing of this dub uncut was one of the worst business decisions ever made by BOTH Cartoon Network and FUNimation.

....Why?

I would assume because if people can get the footage uncut off TV, then they won't buy the DVDs.

[Choujin Daizenshuu]

....Why?

Killed DVD sales of the Ultimate Uncuts and made CN look like a bunch of hypocrites, S+P wise.

I would assume because if people can get the footage uncut off TV, then they won't buy the DVDs.

Bingo. If people were able to DVR the episodes, then there was no incentive for them to buy the overpriced singles. FUNimation never took that reality into account when they made the decision to run the show on CN. Their only alternative was to re-release the show in affordable season sets in order to convince the majority to buy the show again. Hardcore supporting fans be damned!

[Pokewhiz7]

Could that be why the Ultimate Uncut Editions were cancelled? That also makes sense that they were trying to get the orange bricks out there so much that they "remastered" them, included multiple/new audio tracks and the like to make it seem like they were worth buying. Had they not done that, a lot of people might have just gone, "eh, I'm okay with my tapes".

[Ashura]

If this were true, one would expect FMA to have failed miserably... and it didn't by a longshot.

I doubt airing it uncut had very much to do with why the UUC DVDs were cancelled.