How do you feel about Gokuism?

Pokewhiz7 · Post by **Pokewhiz7** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:48 pm

That's not the Dragon Ball Goku, that's Sun Wukong, the monkey king. Goku is just the Japanese reading of the Chinese Wukong.

funrush · Post by **funrush** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:55 pm

Gonstead wrote:Gokuism?

What's next? Son Goku displayed as some sort of monkey deity type of figure?

Oh...

Lovin' the Naruto reference!

But, yeah. The fact that people are actually believing in a religion based entirely on a fictional character that we know is made up, is pretty sad.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:56 pm

Fox666 wrote:
Rocketman wrote:You could find a more worthy deity to worship than a complete asshole like Goku. I mean, even Ares would be a better choice.
Some people may feel the same about Jeovah...

They may, but they'd be wrong. See, at the very least, Jehovah would accord respect for being the Creator of the Universe. Even the violent jerks like Ares held protection over cities and responded to mortal requests for aid.

Meanwhile, Goku watches a city get annihilated by his own hubris and responds with "D'oh well! Hey Gohan let's go fishin'! *never revives those people*"

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:59 pm

samuraix123 wrote:I can honestly say that I'm proud to believe in God and I've never shoved my opinion on someone else so if you don't believe that's fine with me. I got lots of atheist friends. But I don't think religion is ''Bad'' It just depends who's behind it. anytime some crazy christian person says or does something the news tears them apart. they never report the good things religious people do. but then again how many times do people love to hear good stories.

I was talking in general. In my opinion, religion is more bad than good precisely because it drives people crazy.

Gonstead · Post by **Gonstead** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:01 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:That's not the Dragon Ball Goku, that's Sun Wukong, the monkey king. Goku is just the Japanese reading of the Chinese Wukong.

I never said Dragon Ball Goku now did I?

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:04 pm

sangofe wrote:I was talking in general. In my opinion, religion is more bad than good precisely because it drives people crazy.

So does atheism.

Pokewhiz7 · Post by **Pokewhiz7** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:04 pm

Gonstead wrote:
Pokewhiz7 wrote:That's not the Dragon Ball Goku, that's Sun Wukong, the monkey king. Goku is just the Japanese reading of the Chinese Wukong.
I never said Dragon Ball Goku now did I?

But that's what Gokuism is. Unless I'm wrong, which I could be, Gokuism is only the Dragon Ball Goku.

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:15 pm

Rocketman wrote:
sangofe wrote:I was talking in general. In my opinion, religion is more bad than good precisely because it drives people crazy.
So does atheism.

In terms of people compulsively trying to prove something, maybe. But at least there aren't as many conflicts because of atheism.

Rocketman wrote:They may, but they'd be wrong. See, at the very least, Jehovah would accord respect for being the Creator of the Universe. Even the violent jerks like Ares held protection over cities and responded to mortal requests for aid.

Meanwhile, Goku watches a city get annihilated by his own hubris and responds with "D'oh well! Hey Gohan let's go fishin'! *never revives those people*"

But again, a lot of things can be told about Jeoah or Jesus.

Goku at least saved the Earth a few times, even if after some decades he was senile. But they don't have the obligation of reviving everyone, do they? I mean, there are diseases to cure among other more important things than people who died because of alien or artificial humans attacks.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:34 pm

Do they make any reference to which version of Goku they worship? The Japanese Goku or The Funimation version? or is it pretty much in general? Also why is there so many ''ism's'' in words today

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:35 pm

sangofe wrote:I was talking in general. In my opinion, religion is more bad than good precisely because it drives people crazy.

Some say they hear god's speech and then something unpleasant happens.

Rocketman wrote:So does atheism.

I don't think they're anywhere near as bad as religious fanatics.

Eire · Post by **Eire** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:42 pm

I don't think that religious flame war is the thing that Daizex need.

dbgtFO · Post by **dbgtFO** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:17 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: Instead of taking Destructive Cell to Kaio-sama's place and ruining his life, he damn sure could of left him in some planet that no one lived in.

That would be hard to teleport to, since there's no ki and all.

Eire wrote:I don't think that religious flame war is the thing that Daizex need.

Agreed.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:26 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:I don't think they're anywhere near as bad as religious fanatics.

Atheists have killed more people faster than any religion.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:04 pm

Rocketman wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:I don't think they're anywhere near as bad as religious fanatics.
Atheists have killed more people faster than any religion.

I think you're just trolling, Rocketman

dbgtFO · Post by **dbgtFO** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:08 pm

sangofe wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:I don't think they're anywhere near as bad as religious fanatics.
Atheists have killed more people faster than any religion.
I think you're just trolling, Rocketman

http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... 7&start=85

Full Topic: http://daizex.fanboyreview.net/viewtopi ... =8&t=10877
Probably the only time I have seen such a religious debate on Daizex.

I think Gokuism sounds like something to do for fun rather than a serious religious belief.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:35 pm

sangofe wrote:I think you're just trolling, Rocketman :P

"I have no defense, so I'll just throw out the troll card". Nice.

Perfect · Post by **Perfect** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:45 pm

Religion is no worse than atheism in terms of what's "bad" for people. I feel being an agnostic-protestant-Christian accomplishes things for the greater good. Buddhists like the Dalai Lama do not use religion as an excuse, but for what it is; spirituality and a better way at life; perhaps you could draw some parallels to the philosophical end of Gokuism, which doesn't even have to be a religion. If anything I'd love to believe it'd be more of a Taoism, just some basic principals you could learn (though the series is a better example... So Goku being the main guy here doesn't seem to suit it). Every religion that's "serious" and actually has some backbone should be respected, and therefore none of us should be bashing real faiths. If you don't agree with someone's religious point of view, that's fine, but don't go saying it's "bad" and cause harm, because it's just going to start an off topic flame war we don't need. Rocketman is no more trolling than anyone else in this thread.

samuraix123 · Post by **samuraix123** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:34 pm

Agreed

But something I don't get is when people refuse to accept the fact that people believe differently

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:00 pm

This sound like the lame Haruhiism fad from a few years ago.

dbboxkaifan · Post by **dbboxkaifan** » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:16 pm

samuraix123 wrote:Agreed But something I don't get is when people refuse to accept the fact that people believe differently

Religious freaks try to shove their bible quotes up to someone that doesn't believe them.

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