Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by kei17 » Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:07 am

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Saying "chikushō!" like "Damn!" or "Shit!" is not quite rude, but calling someone chikushō can be as offensive as saying fuck you.

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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by xXInfinite026Xx » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:02 pm

I honestly think that the whole "shiiit!" line from Greg Aryes was just a blooper they decided to leave in because of it's hilarious delivery. If you think about it, It's never revisited again after that one time, and even the infamous german line that some youtube user edited to make Cell say "Oh Shit!" ended up as "Oh No!" on the uncut release, despite speculation FUNi would go with "oh shit!" for it.

Besides that point, I noticed that FUNimation seems to uses these "curse" words in odd places sometimes. Sure they added them in when it wasn't present in the original, but I've also noticed that there are also moments when the original dialogue features a kuso/chikushō and was ignored completely in the FUNi dub. It seems to me that FUNi is more concerned with a properly-flowing english adaptation rather than 100% accuracy. Honestly, I'm never really bothered too much by the use of the words, but I do agree it's hard to ignore them when it comes to english Dragon Ball as opposed to other anime it just slips by naturally.
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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by penguintruth » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:09 pm

Nobody getting tossed into a mountain in a fight is going to say "darn".

I don't think they need to use the f word, but "damn" should be fine.
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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by Akumaito Beam » Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:43 pm

penguintruth wrote:Nobody getting tossed into a mountain in a fight is going to say "darn".

I don't think they need to use the f word, but "damn" should be fine.
Right, I think Dubku cussin' a swear doesn't sound quite right because we've spent the better half of a decade hearing these voice actors scream "Golly gosh, dang it to heck n' double darn!" so it kind of has this laughably jarring "Where is that DAMN fourth chaos emerald!?" effect when Dubku snaps and calls Freeza a bastard. The cursing itself seems pretty measured and appropriate to me though.

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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by kemuri07 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:11 am

Akumaito Beam wrote:
penguintruth wrote:Nobody getting tossed into a mountain in a fight is going to say "darn".

I don't think they need to use the f word, but "damn" should be fine.
Right, I think Dubku cussin' a swear doesn't sound quite right because we've spent the better half of a decade hearing these voice actors scream "Golly gosh, dang it to heck n' double darn!" so it kind of has this laughably jarring "Where is that DAMN fourth chaos emerald!?" effect when Dubku snaps and calls Freeza a bastard. The cursing itself seems pretty measured and appropriate to me though.
Damn, Bastard, and hell just lack the overall severity that a "fuck" has.

Also, the word has no place on the show anyways.

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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by Akumaito Beam » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:15 am

I agree! Did you misinterpret my post or were you just adding on in agreement? :?

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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by BrodieK41 » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:03 am

The swearing for me doesn't register as much since I'm used to that in the dubs I've seen over the years. I remember back when I was a kid watching Yu Yu Hakusho on Adult Swim thinking it was pretty badass to hear them curse since I wasn't used to that with the shows I watched. The one thing I would have a problem with it though is if fans try to justify that the show's for adults by pointing to the swearing as evidence.

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Re: Overrated use of the words "damn", "hell" and "bastard".

Post by funrush » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:31 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:They should use "damn", "hell", "bastard", "cunt", "piss", and "shit".
I don't think "cunt" is a word they should use, especially, when, at least in my experience, people view that as worse than "fuck". The other words you listed seem pretty fine, though.

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