Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Tue May 01, 2012 4:16 pm

During the 10 days before the Cell Games, she asks Gokuu and Gohan during their picnic, "Do you really have to be Super Saiyan while we eat?" I doubt she'd go for all the time knowing about and mentioning "Super Saiyan", without actually knowing what it meant. She's not dumb or as single-minded as you think.
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Drayenko » Tue May 01, 2012 4:42 pm

She's a mom. Moms know everything... :lol:

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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Tue May 01, 2012 6:05 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:During the 10 days before the Cell Games, she asks Gokuu and Gohan during their picnic, "Do you really have to be Super Saiyan while we eat?" I doubt she'd go for all the time knowing about and mentioning "Super Saiyan", without actually knowing what it meant. She's not dumb or as single-minded as you think.
I never thought she was dumb but you can't say she's much of a cut above Goku in the intelligence department. I mean she walked up to a genocide freak like Super Boo who is obviously bigger and stronger than she is and slapped him across the face, excepting him to feel mercy and guilt for doing what he does.

Plus why didn't Piccolo stretch his arm out to save Chi-Chi?
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Saiga » Tue May 01, 2012 11:35 pm

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:During the 10 days before the Cell Games, she asks Gokuu and Gohan during their picnic, "Do you really have to be Super Saiyan while we eat?" I doubt she'd go for all the time knowing about and mentioning "Super Saiyan", without actually knowing what it meant. She's not dumb or as single-minded as you think.
I never thought she was dumb but you can't say she's much of a cut above Goku in the intelligence department. I mean she walked up to a genocide freak like Super Boo who is obviously bigger and stronger than she is and slapped him across the face, excepting him to feel mercy and guilt for doing what he does.

Plus why didn't Piccolo stretch his arm out to save Chi-Chi?
She didn't expect him to feel mercy or guilt. She just couldn't stand being around her son's killer and not do anything.
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Nazi Cola » Wed May 02, 2012 12:00 am

She has no feats.
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Michsi » Wed May 02, 2012 3:28 am

I never thought she was dumb but you can't say she's much of a cut above Goku in the intelligence department. I mean she walked up to a genocide freak like Super Boo who is obviously bigger and stronger than she is and slapped him across the face, excepting him to feel mercy and guilt for doing what he does.

I was always torn between understanding her for doing what she did and thinking this to be way too stupid even for the given situation. There was something about just marching up to him and slapping him upside the head that didn't quite feel like grief made her loose her common sense. Also that she still had her youngest to think about.

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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Wed May 02, 2012 6:10 pm

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:During the 10 days before the Cell Games, she asks Gokuu and Gohan during their picnic, "Do you really have to be Super Saiyan while we eat?" I doubt she'd go for all the time knowing about and mentioning "Super Saiyan", without actually knowing what it meant. She's not dumb or as single-minded as you think.
I never thought she was dumb but you can't say she's much of a cut above Goku in the intelligence department. I mean she walked up to a genocide freak like Super Boo who is obviously bigger and stronger than she is and slapped him across the face, excepting him to feel mercy and guilt for doing what he does.

Plus why didn't Piccolo stretch his arm out to save Chi-Chi?
I'd be pissed and probably wouldn't be able to think straight if some lunkhead had just intentionally killed my son without any sign of remorse, and currently was practically holding her and everyone else hostage as he threatened to kill what was now her only son. She didn't expect him to feel mercy and guilt for what he did; she was just angry sitting there doing nothing.

And Piccolo probably didn't know what she was going to do, and/or Boo may've been too fast for him.
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Super Vegetto » Wed May 02, 2012 6:20 pm

Lol yust what kind of thread is this ? Who cares about Chichis powers ? Btw Chichi is strongest during 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai. There is no way that she got stronger after that. Probably got even weaker but still has powers above averge humans...

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Post by Kaboom » Wed May 02, 2012 11:40 pm

Super Vegetto wrote:Lol yust what kind of thread is this ? Who cares about Chichis powers ?
The person who made the thread, obviously.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Thu May 03, 2012 12:13 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:I'd be pissed and probably wouldn't be able to think straight if some lunkhead had just intentionally killed my son without any sign of remorse. She didn't expect him to feel mercy and guilt for what he did; she was just angry sitting there doing nothing.

And Piccolo probably didn't know what she was going to do, and/or Boo may've been too fast for him.
Alas it was her inability to think outside her own maternal instinct that became her undoing and she was ultimately crushed faster than her sex life with Goku.

..And you'd think Gotenks would have taken the battle more seriously.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu May 03, 2012 12:43 pm

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:I'd be pissed and probably wouldn't be able to think straight if some lunkhead had just intentionally killed my son without any sign of remorse. She didn't expect him to feel mercy and guilt for what he did; she was just angry sitting there doing nothing.

And Piccolo probably didn't know what she was going to do, and/or Boo may've been too fast for him.
Alas it was her inability to think outside her own maternal instinct that became her undoing and she was ultimately crushed faster than her sex life with Goku.

..And you'd think Gotenks would have taken the battle more seriously.
Yeah, that's true.

But I think Gotenks is practically a different character to Goten and Trunks individually. When they first entered the RoSaT, while Trunks was complaining about the food and stuff, Goten had started right off with his training, recently angered by the death of his mother. But later, Trunks, the more arrogant one of the two, coerced Goten into going along with his plan, which was only exacerbated by the buffoonery of Gotenks himself.
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by son veku » Wed May 09, 2012 10:23 pm

That kinda pissed me off when goten transformed because ChiChi was basically like "you monster freak get away from me"
Also why doesn't Goten have a tail?

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Post by Saiga » Wed May 09, 2012 10:47 pm

son veku wrote:That kinda pissed me off when goten transformed because ChiChi was basically like "you monster freak get away from me"
Also why doesn't Goten have a tail?
Chi-chi's reaction was filler and a dubline. In the original, she thinks Goten has become a punk because in Japan there is a stereotype of delinquents dying their hair blonde.
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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Fox666 » Wed May 09, 2012 10:53 pm

Goten and Trunks were born without tails. This is mentioned in the Daizenshuu and also by Toriyama in a inteview.

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Re: Exactly how strong was Chichi during the Boo Saga?

Post by Bussani » Thu May 10, 2012 1:17 am

son veku wrote:Also why doesn't Goten have a tail?
Toriyama said in an interview that the tail gene is recessive. A weird answer, but it doesn't contradict the Daizenshuu's comment about Trunks and Goten being born without them.
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Post by Majin Boo » Thu May 10, 2012 2:06 am

The actual reason Trunks and Goten didn't have tails was that Toriyama simply forgot to give them any.

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Post by Saiga » Thu May 10, 2012 2:08 am

Majin Boo wrote:The actual reason Trunks and Goten didn't have tails was that Toriyama simply forgot to give them any.
That's wrong, because in present Trunks' first appearance the lack of tail was noted.
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Post by Piccolo Daimao » Sun May 13, 2012 12:07 pm

Saiga wrote:
son veku wrote:That kinda pissed me off when goten transformed because ChiChi was basically like "you monster freak get away from me"
Also why doesn't Goten have a tail?
Chi-chi's reaction was filler and a dubline. In the original, she thinks Goten has become a punk because in Japan there is a stereotype of delinquents dying their hair blonde.
Yeah, she said the same thing about Gohan after he and Gokuu returned to their house after leaving the RoSaT. Presumably, it wasn't only the blonde hair that made her think he'd become a punk, but the fact that it was spiky too.
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Majin Boo wrote:The actual reason Trunks and Goten didn't have tails was that Toriyama simply forgot to give them any.
That's wrong, because in present Trunks' first appearance the lack of tail was noted.
Yeah, Toriyama had Kuririn ask Blooma, "Where's his tail? Did you cut it off?", but he didn't include an answer from her, for some reason.
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Post by 012yArthur0 » Mon May 14, 2012 9:20 pm

OzzyApu wrote:Not very strong. I really doubt she was well beyond what she had when she fought Goku at the Tenkaichi back in DB. She took on the motherly role for the duration of Gohan's upbringing. When it came to Goten, there's no indication that she pushed to another level of power beyond what she was. The way Goten was given SSJ just reeks of bad writing, so I wouldn't make any sense out of it.
Well, maybe. But it's look like Goten SSJ didn't need rage, but desperation.

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Post by Majin Boo » Tue May 15, 2012 6:45 pm

Huh, that's weird; I could've sworn I read an interview where Toriyama said he forgot to give them tails, but I can't find any such thing now searching for it.

Maybe it was that Toriyama simply didn't want to draw the tails anymore and didn't really care whether it was consistent or not?

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