But she was included in the DB universe, and the laws of that universe apply (unless it's gag purposes, which is heavily in her favor).DBZGTKOSDH wrote:You forget the fact that Arale wasn't created for Dragon Ball to begin with.
What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rivals?
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
I play as her on Budokai Tenkaichi 3 sometimes. I always win just with physical attacks.
Anyway, I wouldn't doubt she could kick all their asses.
Anyway, I wouldn't doubt she could kick all their asses.
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Ah, that was concerning No. 16, Mr. Cell is quite the perfectionist but he killed far too many innocent people for his evolution.Gaffer Tape wrote:Um... what does that have to do with his strength compared to Arale's? And who's talking about hell? And are we talking about Cell or #16? If we're talking about the latter, there's nothing to indicate whether or not he went to any form of afterlife. And if we're talking about Cell... well, let's just hope you're not talking about Cell. But at any rate, I'm still left with a big, "Huh?!"
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
You say that #16's power is excused because the plot needed him to be that strong, right? Arale's power doesn't have to be excused since she was created 4 years before Dragon Ball. Even though she was in Dragon Ball, she wasn't created for Dragon Ball.OzzyApu wrote:But she was included in the DB universeDBZGTKOSDH wrote:You forget the fact that Arale wasn't created for Dragon Ball to begin with.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
She was just a guest character in DB. I always believe that Dr. Slump is it's own universe since it contains references to the real world and the Earth in Dr. Slump seems to have a different design then the Earth in Dragon Ball.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Ok, but Toriyama still put her in Dragon Ball. If we are to excuse that and use your reasoning, which is perfectly sound, then does this mean that she is above anything that characters for DB/Z have to abide by?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:You say that #16's power is excused because the plot needed him to be that strong, right? Arale's power doesn't have to be excused since she was created 4 years before Dragon Ball. Even though she was in Dragon Ball, she wasn't created for Dragon Ball.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Toriyama putted Penguin Village in the Dragon World for fun. You don't have to take it as canon.OzzyApu wrote:Ok, but Toriyama still put her in Dragon Ball. If we are to excuse that and use your reasoning, which is perfectly sound, then does this mean that she is above anything that characters for DB/Z have to abide by?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Well, I think it could be argued that most of what Toriyama did he did for fun, but that doesn't make it any more or less plausible for it to happen in Dragon Ball's universe.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Agreed. DBZGTKOSHDH, if I were not to take it as canon (which believe me, I really don't want it as canon), then how does it solve the plot with 2 Dragon Radars? I have to accept it, otherwise it makes a plot hole of there being 2 Dragon Radars with no explanation.Gaffer Tape wrote:Well, I think it could be argued that most of what Toriyama did he did for fun, but that doesn't make it any more or less plausible for it to happen in Dragon Ball's universe.
Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Since she is a gag character it would be best to not even ask what would happen because it is asking what would happen if any gag character appeared. What if Bugs Bunny appeared after Arale killed all of the rivals? It would be pointless to ask if she could win if you see the splitting of planets with hands and you take that as their real power. This comes to mind




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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
There are a lot of events in Dr. Slump that are impossible to fit in the Dragon World. It could be a different Penguin Village, with a different Arale. Maybe Arale from DB isn't as strong as Arale from Dr. Slump. You get what I mean? There is this way to fit Penguin Village with it's characters into the DB and take them as canon, without taking Dr. Slump as canon. Though personally, I include Dr. Slump (and every other Toriyama manga) in my personal canon.OzzyApu wrote:Agreed. DBZGTKOSHDH, if I were not to take it as canon (which believe me, I really don't want it as canon), then how does it solve the plot with 2 Dragon Radars? I have to accept it, otherwise it makes a plot hole of there being 2 Dragon Radars with no explanation.Gaffer Tape wrote:Well, I think it could be argued that most of what Toriyama did he did for fun, but that doesn't make it any more or less plausible for it to happen in Dragon Ball's universe.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
I get it, but at the same time I think what was included was so limited that there wasn't any point to show any more of Dr. Slump-ness in DB. What was crossed over was atttempted to tie into the story, and even that made those three episodes feel very awkward and weird when compared to the usual DB atmosphere.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:There are a lot of events in Dr. Slump that are impossible to fit in the Dragon World. It could be a different Penguin Village, with a different Arale. Maybe Arale from DB isn't as strong as Arale from Dr. Slump. You get what I mean? There is this way to fit Penguin Village with it's characters into the DB and take them as canon, without taking Dr. Slump as canon. Though personally, I include Dr. Slump (and every other Toriyama manga) in my personal canon.
Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
I need to read Dr. Slump and witness Arale's awesome power with my own eyes. 
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Gag-power Arale: She'd defeat all of them.
"Realistic"-power Arale: Anyone as strong as, or weaker than, Blue, since that's her greatest feat in DB (which can't be canon to Dr. Slump without some extreme stretches, so definitely alternate-universe logic here, with a different Penguin Village and a different Arale).
I don't believe that robots like her can actually become stronger. I forgot the reason why, but it's something to do with the mechanical parts giving them static power in the first place, and due to their inorganic state, they can't literally increase in strength through training. No "upgrades" (if that's even possible) either, since I think Senbei would be afraid enough of her seemingly limitless power.
As a side-note, I don't think we actually see Android #18 train for the 25th TB, and the only reason she enters is for the prize money. She's not a warrior at heart in the slightest. She's just a delinquent and somewhat arrogant criminal who uses her power to get what she wants.
"Realistic"-power Arale: Anyone as strong as, or weaker than, Blue, since that's her greatest feat in DB (which can't be canon to Dr. Slump without some extreme stretches, so definitely alternate-universe logic here, with a different Penguin Village and a different Arale).
I don't believe that robots like her can actually become stronger. I forgot the reason why, but it's something to do with the mechanical parts giving them static power in the first place, and due to their inorganic state, they can't literally increase in strength through training. No "upgrades" (if that's even possible) either, since I think Senbei would be afraid enough of her seemingly limitless power.
As a side-note, I don't think we actually see Android #18 train for the 25th TB, and the only reason she enters is for the prize money. She's not a warrior at heart in the slightest. She's just a delinquent and somewhat arrogant criminal who uses her power to get what she wants.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Well, it's not impossible to have a robot that somehow grows stronger. Our organic bodies are nothing but very advanced "machines" themselves. But I don't think there's anything to indicate that Arale herself has such capabilities.Piccolo Daimao wrote:I don't believe that robots like her can actually become stronger. I forgot the reason why, but it's something to do with the mechanical parts giving them static power in the first place, and due to their inorganic state, they can't literally increase in strength through training.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
True, which is why I said "robots like her". #16, #17 and #18 were built with infinite energy reactors, so I think they've already gone beyond the limit of their organic bodies. They're too strong to do the job anyway, so I don't think Dr. Gero would've made it capable for them to increase their strength. Besides, they're not even martial artists.Bussani wrote:Well, it's not impossible to have a robot that somehow grows stronger. Our organic bodies are nothing but very advanced "machines" themselves. But I don't think there's anything to indicate that Arale herself has such capabilities.Piccolo Daimao wrote:I don't believe that robots like her can actually become stronger. I forgot the reason why, but it's something to do with the mechanical parts giving them static power in the first place, and due to their inorganic state, they can't literally increase in strength through training.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
I know this is a really old topic, but I'm gonna reply to it anyways. Because I haven't read Dr. Slump and since some people mentioned the inconsistencies with Dr. Slump's world to Dragon Ball's, I'm gonna consider Dragon Ball cameo Arale and Dr. Slump Arale as two different characters. With that said I don't think the cameo would indicate her being powerful enough to defeat at least not all DBZ villains. In the cameo when she runs to Goku, Goku says that she ran almost as fast as Kinto-un or flying Nimbus however you wanna call it. Keyword "almost" as when Gohan is in high school he is shown to be able to at least fly much faster than the Nimbus. But running and flying are not the same of course. Also interestingly Dr. Slump in the cameo was also not able to figure out the complexity of Bulma's Dragon Ball radar so could it mean that Bulma would be able to build the most powerful Android of all?
Btw even if Arale could crack open a planet with a punch, it may be irrelevant since many Dragon Ball Z characters can easily destroy planets with their Ki. Perhaps Arale's natural strength may be bigger than that of many DBZ characters, but maybe DBZ characters could overpower her by using their Ki.
Btw even if Arale could crack open a planet with a punch, it may be irrelevant since many Dragon Ball Z characters can easily destroy planets with their Ki. Perhaps Arale's natural strength may be bigger than that of many DBZ characters, but maybe DBZ characters could overpower her by using their Ki.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Buu destroys her like he already did.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
Well, we don't exactly see her dead, and given how Dr. Slump works, for all we know her and most of the rest of Penguin Village were off planet doing something. It's Slump, I doubt nothing.RandomGuy96 wrote:Buu destroys her like he already did.
Honestly, I'm kinda disappointed they (either Toriyama in the manga, or Toei adding it into the anime) didn't show Arale and the Penguin Village gang again during the gathering of energy for the final Genki Dama. Would have been a great place for one final cameo to Toriyama's previous series.
As far as Arale beating up on later villains goes, a part of me agrees that she'd curbstomp everything due to her gag character status and hilariously over-the-top strength. The other part then thinks it does seem a little suspect that she'd be able to tank anything post-Freeza though. Then both sides confer that they'd rather not dwell on a strength debate, grab a couple of sodas, and go watch Arale poke poop. It's fun.
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Re: What if Arale came into Dragon Ball Z and beat the rival
It would be like when she fought 18 in DBM. Some gag thing would happen that would cause the fight to stop.
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