Appropriate Age For Uncut Version?

[Hellspawn28]

If a six year old when watch the Transformers films just fine then they won't have a issue with watching DBZ uncut. I never see why people talk about how violent DBZ uncut is when it's not that violent compare to most movies in theaters now these days.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

If a six year old when watch the Transformers films just fine then they won't have a issue with watching DBZ uncut. I never see why people talk about how violent DBZ uncut is when it's not that violent compare to most movies in theaters now these days.

Because that's assuming people take their 6 year olds to the Micheal Bay Transformer movies. But then I hardly go to movies anymore, I don't know these things.

[TheBlackPaladin]

If a six year old when watch the Transformers films just fine then they won't have a issue with watching DBZ uncut. I never see why people talk about how violent DBZ uncut is when it's not that violent compare to most movies in theaters now these days.

While I completely agree with your logic, I think I can see why people make a big deal about how violent DBZ is.

Firstly, movies are in theaters. Parents have the option whether or not to let their kids see them. DBZ is a TV show, and therefore, it's much more accessible. I'm sure many parents would be okay with their kids seeing DBZ uncut, but...then we have "those" parents...the ones who get offended by everything...and they tend to be very vocal about how offended they are. Sadly, it would appear that we are listening to them more and more as time goes on rather than ignoring them.

Secondly, DBZ is a cartoon (well, okay, it's an anime technically, but I'm not one of those people who regard anime and cartoons as two different things...when somebody asks me what anime is, I just say, "Japanese cartoons"). From my observations, cartoons are held to a different societal standard than live action shows are. There seems to be this unwritten rule in the U.S. that cartoons can only be for kiddies, and therefore, have to be completely safe for all kids to watch. I attribute this attitude to Disney and Warner Brothers sort of "setting the mold" for what American cartoons are supposed to be. So when we see a cartoon like DBZ, which does a number of things that are outside the confines of what normally happens in an American cartoon, some people freak the *beep* out. I HATE this unwritten rule that cartoons are only for kiddies, but that unwritten rule does seem to exist here in the U.S.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Don't The Simpsons, Family Guy, and South Park count as "cartoons", though? They're definitely not for kiddies, although the former's seen more as an "all ages" family show now.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Don't The Simpsons, Family Guy, and South Park count as "cartoons", though? They're definitely not for kiddies, although the former's seen more as an "all ages" family show now.

Y'know, that's true, and I thought about that shortly after I made my last post. I suppose the better way to phrase what I'm saying is that I still think there is an unwritten rule among our society that cartoons have to be for kiddies, but that hasn't stopped certain shows from breaking that unwritten rule. While "The Simpsons" sort of bent that rule rather than break it, "South Park" flat-out broke it. It was the exception back in the day, though. Part of the comedic appeal of "South Park" in the beginning was how such an innocent-looking drawing style was being used to convey humor that was very decidedly adult in nature. Nowadays, that's not such a big deal anymore, and the unwritten rule that I spoke of has been gradually eroding in certain respects (WHICH IS A GOOD THING).

[Piccolo Daimao]

Don't The Simpsons, Family Guy, and South Park count as "cartoons", though? They're definitely not for kiddies, although the former's seen more as an "all ages" family show now.

Y'know, that's true, and I thought about that shortly after I made my last post. I suppose the better way to phrase what I'm saying is that I still think there is an unwritten rule among our society that cartoons have to be for kiddies, but that hasn't stopped certain shows from breaking that unwritten rule. While "The Simpsons" sort of bent that rule rather than break it, "South Park" flat-out broke it. It was the exception back in the day, though. Part of the comedic appeal of "South Park" in the beginning was how such an innocent-looking drawing style was being used to convey humor that was very decidedly adult in nature. Nowadays, that's not such a big deal anymore, and the unwritten rule that I spoke of has been gradually eroding in certain respects (WHICH IS A GOOD THING).

When Dragon Ball Z were brought over to North America in the late 90s, mature cartoons or just ones that didn't aim solely at children weren't a new thing. The Simpsons would've already been running for almost 10 years, and South Park started around that time too. But yeah, you're right in that they were the exceptions, and I can't think of any major adult cartoons other than those two around at that time.

I doubt that a mother, unless she was really out of touch with society, would walk into a shop and buy a Family Guy DVD for little Timmy just because it was a cartoon. Either way (not telling you in particular; just kind of laying my thoughts out on a page), just because Dragon Ball was a colourful action show that had "good vs. evil" as one of its elements, it's not as if a moderate amount of blood, poop jokes, and the occasional kiddy penis breaks that rule and makes it "on another level" as Power Rangers or Ed, Edd n Eddy (which, although I haven't watched it in years, I've heard apparently had its own fair share of innuendos that you'd only get when you grew up).

[dbboxkaifan]

7 to 8.

The violence in Dragon Ball Z anime series isn't even that horrific compared to what kids play nowadays (CoD, GTA, MoH, BF, GoW, etc).

Cutting scenes from a kids cartoon to a kids cartoon was unnecessary but some parents exaggerate on little stupid pointless things. Same parents who probably allow their child to play 16-17+ games.

[AgitoZ]

But yeah, you're right in that they were the exceptions, and I can't think of any major adult cartoons other than those two around at that time.

In the late 90s? There were plenty of them, were any of them as major as those two? Not really, except maybe Beavis and Butt-head. But we gotta give some credit to shows like The Critic, Duckman, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, and a lot more.

...Ed, Edd n Eddy (which, although I haven't watched it in years, I've heard apparently had its own fair share of innuendos that you'd only get when you grew up).

There's quite a few. There quite a couple cartoons with things hidden like that.

[Eire]

I will be a nasty girl and break from the rule 'cos there are no rules in the matter of appropriate age for anything.

The ideal situation would be just keeping in touch with own children and judging by own intuition- children nowadays can fairly quickly differ the fiction and reality, but responsible caretaker must take a step ahead and have a time to talk about children's impressions and doubts. I'm a bit extreme example, because in my family children are allowed to watch and read whatever they want (if said child doesn't understand something, he will get bored and give up), but always have an opportunity to talk with parents and other caretakers about everything they wanted.
Recently I had to deal with 5 years old who after watching "Anastasia" wanted to know the truth about the reasons of Russian Revulsions- yes, even kindergartens doesn't believe in evil wizards. She was moved, but able to handle facts given on her intellectual level.

Dragon Ball compared to this is not really a problematic thing- no serious doubts, just some graphic violence and nudity that fascinates children, but doesn't indicate anything about future interests, as some people may fear. I also have an impression that Europe takes both less seriously than USA- French Edited Version that spread across continent had just a few scenes cut out and was aired among other children's series.

BTW here you have reasonable recommendation for parents and examples of topics to the discussions.
http://www.commonsensemedia.org/tv-revi ... gon-ball-z
http://www.commonsensemedia.org/tv-revi ... ball-z-kai

[Piccolo Daimao]

The violence in Dragon Ball Z anime series isn't even that horrific compared to what kids play nowadays (CoD, GTA, MoH, BF, GoW, etc).

I'm not sure how that's relevant, though. Even in Japan, those games are considered adult, and are officially rated 18+. Not that I disagree with you; just thought I’d mention it.

But yeah, you're right in that they were the exceptions, and I can't think of any major adult cartoons other than those two around at that time.

In the late 90s? There were plenty of them, were any of them as major as those two? Not really, except maybe Beavis and Butt-head. But we gotta give some credit to shows like The Critic, Duckman, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, and a lot more.

Yeah, so only three real major ones, then. It was really the 00s that they became widespread, with Family Guy (beginning in 1999, but hit its stride in 2000).

...Ed, Edd n Eddy (which, although I haven't watched it in years, I've heard apparently had its own fair share of innuendos that you'd only get when you grew up).

There's quite a few. There quite a couple cartoons with things hidden like that.

Yeah, haha. Man, that was a great show; I've got to rewatch it sometime.

[Cipher]

Nine or ten is probably good. Not just for the "uncut" version, but for the series in general. I actually don't believe the American edited cuts do anything more to make it less frightening or more palatable to kids; all they really do is adhere to American broadcasting standards.

Anyway, that age is usually old enough to catch some of the dirty jokes that populate early Dragon Ball and not to be upset by some of the more intense moments as the series goes on.

I will say, when I was first watching the Cell arc as a kid, there were times I actually found it pretty frightening. But it's really more exciting than anything else. Most kids should be able to handle the series at a fairly young age.

[Hellspawn28]

If a six year old when watch the Transformers films just fine then they won't have a issue with watching DBZ uncut. I never see why people talk about how violent DBZ uncut is when it's not that violent compare to most movies in theaters now these days.

Because that's assuming people take their 6 year olds to the Micheal Bay Transformer movies. But then I hardly go to movies anymore, I don't know these things.

I saw a lot of little kids when I saw those movies in theaters. I even saw a mom and three kids when she took them to see Kick-Ass a couple years back in 2010. As I mention earlier that if kids at a young age can handle PG-13 level of violence then DBZ uncut would be okay for them.