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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:31 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:It was fun for the most part, but the ending with Shenlong's tea party was... not my type. But yeah, if they were to release it in anime, I would also like to update the One Piece characters (and add Gohan, WHERE IS GOHAN?!).
Yeah, that ending is a bit weird I'll admit, but it's what I expect when people like Toriyama and Oda collaborate. :lol: I completely forgot that Gohan wasn't in it though. Maybe he could be the opposite for Brooke...somehow. For Franky, I'm thinking maybe they could actually show us the 'Gero Sky Pirates', and have Franky be one of his androids essentially.
They are trying a lot to promote Toriko, given that they debuted the first episode with a One Piece crossover, made a manga crossover, a second anime crossover, and have it along with Dragon Ball & One Piece as the main franchises in Project Versus J, and now this. I would prefer Naruto instead of Toriko.
That's what irks me so much about Toriko. For all I know, I'd like the series, and I do plan to give it a shot eventually. But c'mon, does it really have to keep mooching off of other titles in a bid to get even more popularity for it? That doesn't exactly speak volumes for their confidence in it, nor peak my interest much higher. But I guess it's because it's the 'new' thing. Naruto and Bleach are on their way out slowly but surely, so they won't get much focus for these kinds of things anymore.
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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by Chuquita » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:37 pm

That's exactly what irritates me about Toriko too; you've nailed it. The marketing for that series mooches too much off of other series and attempts to try to get you to watch by association rather than promoting the series own merits. It's why I've never been able to care enough to give Toriko a chance, but I guess I'll have to by default since he and his cast will be in the special.
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Post by Soul » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:46 pm

To be honest, Toriko gets a lot of flack and added Dragon Ball fans seem to have a stigma against it since it replaced Kai. Is Toriko a ground breaking Jump series? Hell no! But it is a very FUN series to just sit back and turn your brain off to. Its a very imaginative show; yes its obviously influenced by OP and DB but it very much does its own thing.
If you like Dragon Ball, One Piece or you're a foodie? Give it a shot.
That said? I'm pretty excited to see this.

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:49 pm

I never liked Toriko. I read its first chapter and got bored with it.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:52 pm

Soul wrote:To be honest, Toriko gets a lot of flack and added Dragon Ball fans seem to have a stigma against it since it replaced Kai. Is Toriko a ground breaking Jump series? Hell no! But it is a very FUN series to just sit back and turn your brain off to. Its a very imaginative show; yes its obviously influenced by OP and DB but it very much does its own thing.
If you like Dragon Ball, One Piece or you're a foodie? Give it a shot.
That said? I'm pretty excited to see this.
Like I said, it's just the way they pitch it that irks me. I say the same thing about Percy Jackson when it gets called 'the next Harry Potter', when the two are actually pretty far from each other once you get past the initial set-up (which even then has entirely different elements). And I love Percy Jackson. So I'm more than willing to give Toriko it's fair shot eventually, I just wish they'd let it try and stand on it's own two feet for a change, you know?

That and, much as I enjoy Kai, I really couldn't care less that Toriko took it's spot. I'm not surprised at all about Kai doing 'poorly' in Japan, given that it wasn't as needed there and is essentially the same story we've seen a thousand times by now. That part may just be me though. :P
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:56 pm

So is this a full animated cross over like the Toriko X One Piece that happened a year or so ago.

Also as a in-universe guy I cringe at the thought of nerfing power levels. Since I read fusion with Trunks in the translator in the link, that means Goku has SSJ3. That puts him way above Toriko and Luffy who I have yet to see do anything on Goku's level. Though Toriko would probably win an eating contest. I hate nerfing for the sake of continuity. I don't mind it in games since that is for balancing and doesn't matter.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:58 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:I never liked Toriko. I read its first chapter and got bored with it.
Never judge anything from its first chapter/episode. That's a rule.

Toriko seems fun (having only seen the One Piece crossovers), but I don't want to get into any other on-going manga/anime. I watched Dragon Ball & One Piece because I was watching them a kid back in early 2000, and Naruto because my brother was watching it some years ago, and it seemed cool, and I read/watched Dr. Slump, Neko Majin, and every other manga that he drew & wrote, because I have them all, along with Dragon Ball, in one canon. I'm not really a manga/anime fan in general.
dbzfan7 wrote:Also as a in-universe guy I cringe at the thought of nerfing power levels. Since I read fusion with Trunks in the translator in the link, that means Goku has SSJ3. That puts him way above Toriko and Luffy who I have yet to see do anything on Goku's level. Though Toriko would probably win an eating contest. I hate nerfing for the sake of continuity. I don't mind it in games since that is for balancing and doesn't matter.
They have to lower the Dragon Ball guys' powers. If not, then it won't be fun, since if Luffy or Toriko will have a trouble, then Goku would only need one punch to save them (without even Kaio-ken).
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by Chuquita » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:00 pm

You know, I just realized; if this crossover special is an hour long, BOG has got to be longer than that and probably is closer in length to OPZ after all. I mean, there's no way the promotional special would be longer than the movie; at least there's that.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:They have to lower the Dragon Ball guys' powers. If not, then it won't be fun, since if Luffy or Toriko will have a trouble, then Goku would only need one punch to save them (without even Kaio-ken).
Then use an earlier timeline Goku. Use something like post Saiyan Saga Goku, or at most Trunks saga Goku. Don't butcher Boo Saga/ EOBS Goku.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:04 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Then use an earlier timeline Goku. Use something like post Saiyan Saga Goku, or at most Trunks saga Goku. Don't butcher Boo Saga/ EOBS Goku.
Doing that would severely limit the number of characters they could bring into this though, and I can see why they'd want to further promote Battle of Gods with this.

That said, I would like to eventually see something in the form of an Early Dragon Ball/One Piece crossover. Kid Goku, instead of his adult self, hanging out with Luffy and gang? Sign me up.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 5:05 pm

Cool news. I do like One Piece and I know nothing about Toriko. I didn't know what Toriko was until last year.
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dbzfan7 wrote:Then use an earlier timeline Goku. Use something like post Saiyan Saga Goku, or at most Trunks saga Goku. Don't butcher Boo Saga/ EOBS Goku.
Doing that would severely limit the number of characters they could bring into this though, and I can see why they'd want to further promote Battle of Gods with this.
True, but don't nerf Goku or it's going to give the wrong idea and create inconsistencies. I don't see either of them even close to base Goku at this point. I don't want to see them on par with SSJ.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:19 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:True, but don't nerf Goku or it's going to give the wrong idea and create inconsistencies. I don't see either of them even close to base Goku at this point. I don't want to see them on par with SSJ.
True, but eh, I highly doubt this special will be meant to be taken very seriously to begin with. Chances are it won't even be hinted that it's the universes crossing over at all, it'll probably just be some kind of...well, it'll just happen, and we'll be left to assume they were all in the same universe to begin with. Therefore, it would be a different version of Goku than the one from his series anyway.
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Post by Makaioshin » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:25 pm

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That's what irks me so much about Toriko. For all I know, I'd like the series, and I do plan to give it a shot eventually. But c'mon, does it really have to keep mooching off of other titles in a bid to get even more popularity for it? That doesn't exactly speak volumes for their confidence in it, nor peak my interest much higher. But I guess it's because it's the 'new' thing. Naruto and Bleach are on their way out slowly but surely, so they won't get much focus for these kinds of things anymore.
Dragon Ball has been doing the same thing with the Dream 9 TV block , movie ticket promotions, and now this special.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:26 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:True, but don't nerf Goku or it's going to give the wrong idea and create inconsistencies. I don't see either of them even close to base Goku at this point. I don't want to see them on par with SSJ.
True, but eh, I highly doubt this special will be meant to be taken very seriously to begin with. Chances are it won't even be hinted that it's the universes crossing over at all, it'll probably just be some kind of...well, it'll just happen, and we'll be left to assume they were all in the same universe to begin with. Therefore, it would be a different version of Goku than the one from his series anyway.
Even so I hate the breaking of consistency. It's a major pet peeve I have. I can't stand nerfing for the sake of story.
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Post by fogdark » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:29 pm

Copy-paste of my post in the Battle of Gods thread :thumbup:
hmm, a One Piece X Toriko X Dragon Ball Z special, huh? Too bad we're not getting some sort of adaptation of Cross Epoch :(
I read the news on Anime News Network and I'm still not sure how excited I should be about it. Anything new Dragon Ball related, especially animation-wise, immediately gets me super excited, so this is no exception. But then I remember just how "good" the Toriko X One Piece specials were, and my excitement goes away a bit. :lolno:
Let's hope Toei does a brilliant special this time around.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:37 pm

Makaioshin wrote:Dragon Ball has been doing the same thing with the Dream 9 TV block , movie ticket promotions, and now this special.
Not quite. Dragon Ball had already long since made it's own name for itself before One Piece even came along, and One Piece became a huge hit without Dragon Ball's help as well. So those two being marketed together as they have been doesn't feel like one feeding off of the other to me - it's just two big titles that are similar in a lot of ways, being marketed together on even ground.
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:
Makaioshin wrote:Dragon Ball has been doing the same thing with the Dream 9 TV block , movie ticket promotions, and now this special.
Not quite. Dragon Ball had already long since made it's own name for itself before One Piece even came along, and One Piece became a huge hit without Dragon Ball's help as well. So those two being marketed together as they have been doesn't feel like one feeding off of the other to me - it's just two big titles that are similar in a lot of ways, being marketed together on even ground.
Exactly. When One Piece & Dragon Ball Kai were together, they were promoted like "watch these two legend one after another!", while now with One Piece & Toriko, it's more like "watch the legendary One Piece, oh, Toriko is cool too, so check this out as well!!!".
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:52 pm

I might Toriko a try one day. I'm not into most recent shonen anime and manga since most post early 90's shonen manga I never care for. Like Aquarion, D.Gray-Man and Buso Renkin for example.
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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:58 pm

This "hate Toriko because it replaced Dragon Ball Kai" thing has never made any sense. Dragon Ball Kai was terrible and damaging the franchise. Concluding it with episode #97 was a mercy kill we should all be thankful for. Toriko, on the other hand, while a terrible series, isn't dragging a franchise down domestically. Dragon Ball Kai can't exactly say the same.

Dragon Ball is being included in this special to promote the new movie. Toriko is once again saving Son Gokuu and friends' bacon from getting burned. I think we ought to be thankful for that much.
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