Vegetto/Gogeta Rank

[Kaboom]

Base Vegetto > SS3 Gogeta.

Lol xDDD ahahahah, complete BS. No way that can be true.

Um, let's try to give our posts a little more substance and a little less rudeness, okay?

[TheGmGoken]

Base Vegetto > SS3 Gogeta.

Lol xDDD ahahahah, complete BS. No way that can be true.

Wasn't their a thread that said Daizenshuu implied that Gohan > SSJ 3 Gogeta. Which means Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta. How I see is.

SSJ2 Gogeta = SSJ2 Vegetto. The same for all forms. I say this because pretty much they're the same and had Movie 12 not came out as Kaboom said. Gogeta would have been Vegetto but a Fusion Dance not a Potara. Though I prefer Vegetto's design.

[SaiyanZ]

Didn't Buu (Gohan Ab.) say something about how if Goku and Vegeta fused they still wouldn't be able to beat him? (It was when Goku IT'd to Vegeta's place, obv. referring to the Metamorese method). Then again, could be his vanity speaking

[TheGmGoken]

Didn't Buu (Gohan Ab.) say something about how if Goku and Vegeta fused they still wouldn't be able to beat him? (It was when Goku IT'd to Vegeta's place, obv. referring to the Metamorese method). Then again, could be his vanity speaking

I think he was being cocky.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

SSJ2 Gogeta = SSJ2 Vegetto. The same for all forms. I say this because pretty much they're the same and had Movie 12 not came out as Kaboom said. Gogeta would have been Vegetto but a Fusion Dance not a Potara.

But we don't know if the story would have taken the same direction if the Potara never existed.

[TheGmGoken]

SSJ2 Gogeta = SSJ2 Vegetto. The same for all forms. I say this because pretty much they're the same and had Movie 12 not came out as Kaboom said. Gogeta would have been Vegetto but a Fusion Dance not a Potara.

But we don't know if the story would have taken the same direction if the Potara never existed.

What you mean? You think had Gogeta been in the manga he would had lost? I think the same thing will happen. Hence why the dis-fuse in Boo's body. The time limit would been up in Gogeta.

[hleV]

But we don't know if the story would have taken the same direction if the Potara never existed.

What you mean? You think had Gogeta been in the manga he would had lost? I think the same thing will happen. Hence why the dis-fuse in Boo's body. The time limit would been up in Gogeta.

He means that if Gogeta appeared instead of Vegetto, Toriyama could've altered the plot so Gogeta would actually be strong enough to defeat Boo. For instance, Boo could've knocked Gohan out instead of absorbing him.

I personally don't think that Goten & Trunks are stronger than Piccolo, and that Goten is only on par with slacked off Gohan who gets back in shape after a month of training for the 25th TB. So in my book Gogeta is quite a bit superior to Gotenks. While there is some good evidence for Gogeta being inferior to Gohan-absorbed Boo, I'm still under the impression that SS3 Gogeta would wreck him.

[TheGmGoken]

He means that if Gogeta appeared instead of Vegetto, Toriyama could've altered the plot so Gogeta would actually be strong enough to defeat Boo. For instance, Boo could've knocked Gohan out instead of absorbing him.

Would't that be the same thing that I said? That they're equal.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

What you mean? You think had Gogeta been in the manga he would had lost? I think the same thing will happen. Hence why the dis-fuse in Boo's body. The time limit would been up in Gogeta.

The Potara were stated to be superior to Fusion in the manga. So, Gogeta would have been weaker than Vegetto. So, maybe Boo wouldn't absorb Gohan, or SS3 Gogeta & Gohan Boo would have an even fight, or who knows? I definitely don't see SS Gogeta kicking Gohan Boo's ass like Super Vegetto did. The adults definitely aren't 4 times stronger than the kids.

I personally don't think that Goten & Trunks are stronger than Piccolo, and that Goten is only on par with slacked off Gohan who gets back in shape after a month of training for the 25th TB.

I'll agree about Goten = High School arc Gohan, though I have the SS kids above Piccolo.

[hleV]

Would't that be the same thing that I said? That they're equal.

I honestly don't understand who are you referring to, hence the confusion. Sometimes writing the name instead of he helps, when it's not obvious otherwise.

[Barunks]

Has it ever been officially established that Vegito is stronger that Gogeta? I mean I've seen many fans act like that's the case but they were also the same fans that insisted Dragonball AF existed. I've always had it in my mind that they were exactly the same in terms of power as individuals, but the power that binds two beings into one is obviously more powerful with the potara earings.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Has it ever been officially established that Vegito is stronger that Gogeta?

Yep. In all media (manga, anime, guides, video games).

[RandomGuy96]

But the Dragon Ball wiki said-

(is shot)

[TheGmGoken]

But the Dragon Ball wiki said-

(is shot)

[Barunks]

Has it ever been officially established that Vegito is stronger that Gogeta?

Yep. In all media (manga, anime, guides, video games).

Got some clips to play?

[Kakashi]

Those are old arguments which were debunked

The adults are far above the kids

Piccolo says the difference while fused is bigger while separated so the difference between Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger than the adults and the kids

Not to mention the rival boots

Gogeta is leagues ahead of Gotenks

Also what Old Kaioshin said doesn't make Base Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta and it can mean SSJ Gogeta ~ Base Vegetto which is what I have

[RandomGuy96]

Those are old arguments which were debunked

The adults are far above the kids

Piccolo says the difference while fused is bigger while separated so the difference between Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger than the adults and the kids

Not to mention the rival boots

Gogeta is leagues ahead of Gotenks

Also what Old Kaioshin said doesn't make Base Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta and it can mean SSJ Gogeta ~ Base Vegetto which is what I have

According to the manga and Daizenshuu, no they're not.

That can be interpreted a lot of ways.

There is no rival boost.

Not really.

[Kakashi]

Those are old arguments which were debunked

The adults are far above the kids

Piccolo says the difference while fused is bigger while separated so the difference between Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger than the adults and the kids

Not to mention the rival boots

Gogeta is leagues ahead of Gotenks

Also what Old Kaioshin said doesn't make Base Vegetto > SSJ3 Gogeta and it can mean SSJ Gogeta ~ Base Vegetto which is what I have

According to the manga and Daizenshuu, no they're not.

That can be interpreted a lot of ways.

There is no rival boost.

Not really.

The Daizenshuu is wrong because it's flawed and also says Kibio is close to Base Gohan and the Manga never showed the kids were close to the adults but the opposite

Piccolo says that a gain while separated is bigger while fused so you are wrong

The rival boots comes from Goku and Vegeta

Goku wanted to use SSJ vs Gotenks-Boo

[PerfectFreeza]

The kids are close to each other even more, so if there was a rival boost for the FD, then Gotenks would get the same boost as Gogeta.
And it's spelled ''booST'', not ''booTS''.

[Rocketman]

Vegetto and Gogeta are functionally equal. The fact that Vegetto is the stronger of the two means nothing when comparing them to the rest of the cast.