Say hello to Dragon Ball Heroes then.KentalSSJ6 wrote:I personally dont care anymore and just accept it for what it is. I dont mind if all the Saiyans achieve Super Saiyan, but if they all suddently got 2 or 3 then yeah id would get ridiculous.
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I dont mind heroes because its for the majority, a bunch of what ifs. Also, I do find it interesting to see what they would look like. To sum up I dont care if everyone gets all the SSJ forms in the game as long as it stays out of the canon timeline.
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I'm waiting for Appule's brother to be the strongest in the universe.KentalSSJ6 wrote:I dont mind heroes because its for the majority, a bunch of what ifs. Also, I do find it interesting to see what they would look like. To sum up I dont care if everyone gets all the SSJ forms in the game as long as it stays out of the canon timeline.
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Cute. Anyway as long as they dont give every from to every Saiyan besides Goku and Vegeta in the canon timeline I personally dont care. I wouldent mind seeing Goten and Trunks reaching SSJ2 given their potential but Id like to see them work for it. As cool/funny Gotenks is I dont want him to be their only tactic, seeing them do stuff on their own would be cool.
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We have SSJ3 GT Trunks and possibly a SSJ3 Goten coming up.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Cute. Anyway as long as they dont give every from to every Saiyan besides Goku and Vegeta in the canon timeline I personally dont care. I wouldent mind seeing Goten and Trunks reaching SSJ2 given their potential but Id like to see them work for it. As cool/funny Gotenks is I dont want him to be their only tactic, seeing them do stuff on their own would be cool.
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I already got my SSJ3 Trunks in Young Jijii's AF doujin along with SSJ2 Goten. I prefer them over heroes cause the doujin actually bothers to explain how they get the forms instead of just going "oh heres a SSJ3 GT Trunks you can play with". I know its Heroes and a arcade card game but SOME explanation would be nice.
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Well, manga wise we don't know.ABED wrote:Future Trunks hardly achieved it easily.
I prefer the TV special, but even then he didn't seem all that strong, and it again just seemed to happen because he was angry.
I'm glad the anime had Gohan transform in a suitable way. In the manga it was just Goku 'picture Freeza killing me' blam he's Super Saiyan. Based on that you would have thought he'd have become one during the Freeza arc when Piccolo almost was killed by Freeza three or so times.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.
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I hear ya, but I just think Trunks was weak in comparison to the Cyborgs.
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What did I think of it? I thought it was funny. Dragon Ball isn't meant to be taken seriously. Whenever you find yourself forgetting this, remember that all of the characters are named after food items and underwear, and that Goku would have never learned his signature attack if he hadn't brought a pichi pichi girl to an old pervert.
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Dragon Ball still has plenty of drama, and DBZ does shift tonally. Humor's great but since he went more serious later on, it feels like it undercuts the importance of that story point.UpFromTheSkies wrote:What did I think of it? I thought it was funny. Dragon Ball isn't meant to be taken seriously. Whenever you find yourself forgetting this, remember that all of the characters are named after food items and underwear, and that Goku would have never learned his signature attack if he hadn't brought a pichi pichi girl to an old pervert.
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By King Piccolo arc. Most of the humor was gone at turned into an Action Adventure rather than an Adventure Comedy(With Action)Dragon Ball isn't meant to be taken seriously.
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It has serious moments, but Toriyama keeps the humor in there, like Yajirobe being the one to take down Vegeta in his great ape form, the Ginyu force, Mr Satan, Great Saiyaman, Goten and Trunks at the Tenkaichi Budokai, Gotenks, Buu, Vegetto... ect.ABED wrote:Dragon Ball still has plenty of drama, and DBZ does shift tonally. Humor's great but since he went more serious later on, it feels like it undercuts the importance of that story point.UpFromTheSkies wrote:What did I think of it? I thought it was funny. Dragon Ball isn't meant to be taken seriously. Whenever you find yourself forgetting this, remember that all of the characters are named after food items and underwear, and that Goku would have never learned his signature attack if he hadn't brought a pichi pichi girl to an old pervert.
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Yep, it was more like Evil Dead 2, whereas early Dragon Ball was closer to Army of Darkness.TheGmGoken wrote:By King Piccolo arc. Most of the humor was gone at turned into an Action Adventure rather than an Adventure Comedy(With Action)Dragon Ball isn't meant to be taken seriously.
Sure, there's plenty of humor, but there's considerably less of it in comparison to the beginning. Vegetto isn't by his nature a humorous character , nor do I see Yajirobe taking down Vegeta as being played for laughs.It has serious moments, but Toriyama keeps the humor in there, like Yajirobe being the one to take down Vegeta in his great ape form, the Ginyu force, Mr Satan, Great Saiyaman, Goten and Trunks at the Tenkaichi Budokai, Gotenks, Buu, Vegetto... ect.
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ABED wrote:It was like two panels and it was just training, not an all out fight.

Trunks seems to be going all out to me.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Yajoribe wasn't humor when he cut Great Ape Vegeta.............Toriyama keeps the humor in there, like Yajirobe being the one to take down Vegeta in his great ape form, the Ginyu force, Mr Satan, Great Saiyaman, Goten and Trunks at the Tenkaichi Budokai, Gotenks, Buu, Vegetto... ect.
Ginyu Force - Yes but their goofy-ness wasn't the main focus. Only Rikum goofy was his main focus.
MR satan - Yes
Great Saiyaman- Regular day for Humans
Goten and Trunks - To show their power and how weak humans are
Gotenks - A child
Boo - Wasn't humor really. Unless you mean Fatty Boo
Vegetto - HAD A good reason.
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Yeah, there is a lot of serious stuff in there, like Goku's training to fight the Saiayans. Having to come up with puns and chase a monkey around, that's some serious business.ABED wrote:Yep, it was more like Evil Dead 2, whereas early Dragon Ball was closer to Army of Darkness.TheGmGoken wrote:By King Piccolo arc. Most of the humor was gone at turned into an Action Adventure rather than an Adventure Comedy(With Action)Dragon Ball isn't meant to be taken seriously.
Sure, there's plenty of humor, but there's considerably less of it in comparison to the beginning. Vegetto isn't by his nature a humorous character , nor do I see Yajirobe taking down Vegeta as being played for laughs.It has serious moments, but Toriyama keeps the humor in there, like Yajirobe being the one to take down Vegeta in his great ape form, the Ginyu force, Mr Satan, Great Saiyaman, Goten and Trunks at the Tenkaichi Budokai, Gotenks, Buu, Vegetto... ect.
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There's also Freeza murdering children, beating the living hell out of Vegeta and blowing up Goku's best friend in front of him. There's a lot of humor but I don't know how anyone could deny there was a tonal shift.
Or just a long sparring session.Trunks seems to be going all out to me.
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Trunks is tired & sweating, while Gohan easily handles him with one freaking arm.ABED wrote:Or just a long sparring session.
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There's no way to know what their training was. It may have been a sparring contest or Trunks was throwing punches for an extended period of time like exhaustion training.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Trunks is tired & sweating, while Gohan easily handles him with one freaking arm.ABED wrote:Or just a long sparring session.
There is no way any Saiyan at there base is more powerful than a Saiyan, it's illogical.
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Except if the Super Saiyan can transform without training, like Trunks. If base Gohan is 5.000.000, and base Trunks is 10.000, then base Gohan vs SS Trunks is 5.000.000 vs 500.000.ABED wrote:There is no way any Saiyan at there base is more powerful than a Saiyan, it's illogical.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.





