Which was more flawed: The Cell Saga or The Buu Saga?

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Re: Which was more flawed: The Cell Saga or The Buu Saga?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:36 pm

The Buu arc wasn't confusing at all :eh:
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Re: Which was more flawed: The Cell Saga or The Buu Saga?

Post by mAcChaos » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:35 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:The Majin Buu saga was definitely worse. You could actually tell that Toriyama was putting in a lot of effort with the Android saga as it was much deeper and complex than the rest of the series. Here's what was wrong with the Majin saga:

*The saga itself was unneeded. When the Android saga ended, there wasn't anything left we had to see. The series was brought to closure: Goku died for good, Gohan avenged and surpassed him and all timelines were saved. No one can deny the finality of the Android saga. Continuing the series was not necessary storywise.
*The Majin saga initially started off focusing on Gohan, which was the right thing to do storywise, but eventually Goku became the protagonist again and came back to life, thus killing the purpose of his death in the Android saga.
*Characters like Goten and Trunks seriously lacked depth. They show up and right off the bat they're super strong and can even turn Super Saiyan.
*Anyone should see that there was less effort put into the Majin saga. The saga felt much goofier and had a TON of simple asspulls: fusion, Super Saiyan 3, the Zeta Sword, Old Kai, absorptions, Goku becoming the star again and potara.
*And here's a HUGE story flaw: Supreme Kai not telling anyone about Buu's absorption.
*The ending to the Majin saga was not a great ending to the series. It lacked a proper sense of closure and finality.
What was deeper and more complex about the Cell arc?

I liked both. The Buu saga was a fresh start, but it also tied up the longest running loose ends. (Vegeta's respect, Gohan's power, etc.)
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Re: Which was more flawed: The Cell Saga or The Buu Saga?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:46 pm

mAcChaos wrote: What was deeper and more complex about the Cell arc?
The timetraveling: Future Trunks comes from a very bleak future that he attempts to change by going to the past. This made the saga particularly dark for a Dragonball story. Later, when Cell appears, it is revealed there are even more timelines. That came off as complicated for many people, including myself. You can't deny the complexity of the timetraveling.

Gohan's character and the Super Saiyan forms are also given more depth.
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Re: Which was more flawed: The Cell Saga or The Buu Saga?

Post by DBZ Mick » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:58 pm

Dr. Machismo wrote:
See that would have been fine...if there were just Dragonball Z, I think Goku being dead at the end of the series is a bad idea. Also Vegeta's arc doesn't fully feel complete. He just gives up on fighting?
Goku dying symbolizes him passing the torch to his son.
Yes, but like I said this would have been fine if there were just Dragonball Z. But Goku's the main character after all.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Re: Which was more flawed: The Cell Saga or The Buu Saga?

Post by DoomieDoomie911 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:18 pm

Though I like both arcs a lot, I have to admit they do have flaws. The Boo arc is worst as far as that goes though.
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Re: Which was more flawed: The Cell Saga or The Buu Saga?

Post by Dr. Machismo » Wed Sep 04, 2013 7:32 pm

DBZ Mick wrote: Yes, but like I said this would have been fine if there were just Dragonball Z. But Goku's the main character after all.
I don't get what you mean :eh:
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