Is the Super Saiyan God's power permanent?

[TheGmGoken]

Nope. I think he would had kept it had he not turn into SSG for a second time. Unless it's like the avatar state and it comes when Goku is in danger . But yea seriously he most likely don't have it.

[Dr. Machismo]

To put it simple, when Oob unleashed his full power (after the Kiai), his power was implied to be around Pure Boo's level (strong enough to maybe even defeat SS3 Goku, if he had received training). When he was fighting evenly with Goku though (before the Kiai), he was probably at a much lower level (though he seemed slightly stronger than base Goku). So yes, we do know how strong Oob is.

It's not said if Uub released his full power after pulling off the shockwave. If Uub's full power was brought out, Goku would have went Super Saiyan 3.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It's not said if Uub released his full power after pulling off the shockwave. If Uub's full power was brought out, Goku would have went Super Saiyan 3.

The Daizenshuu said that the Kiai raised his power. As for why Goku didn't go SS3, it was because he chose to stop the fight instead because Oob didn't know how to fight properly.

[Dr. Machismo]

It's not said if Uub released his full power after pulling off the shockwave. If Uub's full power was brought out, Goku would have went Super Saiyan 3.

The Daizenshuu said that the Kiai raised his power. As for why Goku didn't go SS3, it was because he chose to stop the fight instead because Oob didn't know how to fight properly.

But did it actually say it brought out all of his power? If the Uub's kiai brought out his power, Goku would have been a lot more damaged.

[ZombieVito]

Which will prove base Goku ~ Kib Buu.

[TheGmGoken]

Which will prove base Goku ~ Kib Buu.

Kib?

[Dr. Machismo]

Which will prove base Goku ~ Kib Buu.

How so?

[ZombieVito]

Ubb's FP is = Kid Buu.

[MDSTSSJ]

Base Goku is stronger than 10 years ago!

My personal opinion:

It doesn´s matter if full power Oob is weaker than Goku at that time or not match for him or whatever because the only thing that matters to Goku is to finish the fight by itself ( thing he could not do before ) and see where his powers have come after training for 10 years.

Is the SSJ God´s permanent? Not at all.

Full power SSJGod fight against Bills 70%. After fighting for a while, Goku loses the transformation but somehow he kept enough power to keep fighting against Bills. Later he and Bills run out of energy.

Having become SSJGod, Goku somehow learned to use that power and now his ability to be more powerful, is immeasurable.

Vegeta can transform in to SSJGod but he never gonna find how to use that kind of power without the transformation.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But did it actually say it brought out all of his power? If the Uub's kiai brought out his power, Goku would have been a lot more damaged.

It's not confirmed, but it's the only possible explanation to disprove that one:

Which will prove base Goku ~ Kib Buu.

And to have Oob go full power, so that he will be what Goku expected. So, we had Oob at 3 stages while fighting Goku:

• Relaxed: Very weak, like a normal human.
• Raged (pre-Kiai): Slightly stronger than base Goku.
• Raged (post-Kiai): As strong as Majin Boo (Pure).

At least that's what I believe & that's what I get from the manga & its guides.

[Dr. Machismo]

where is it stated that Uub's power was as much as Kid Buu's when he fought Goku?

[Kid Buu]

OK, is it ever stated the Uub's power was as much as Kid Buu's when he fought Goku?

I've always wondered this too.

[ZombieVito]

Holy crap!

Big Spoiler from the movie ahead!

Spoiler:

I just watch a scene from Birusu vs Goku and Goku actually turns back to base and starts fighting Birusu equally. Looks like SSJ doesn't give him any more power. The power up has to be permanent.

[goku the krump dancer]

OK, is it ever stated the Uub's power was as much as Kid Buu's when he fought Goku?

I've always wondered this too.

No, its never stated.. its a wild assumption people have.

Oob only ever so slightly taps into Boo's power, just enough for him to knock Goku off balance, tear up his clothes a bit and confirm that "yup, thats our guy".

Its no different from Gohan tapping into his power when he was younger, giving his uncle a nice head butt and then destroying that mountain.

I don't get it, Oob fighting with %100 or even %50 of Kid Boo's power out right contradicts how some of you feel about how strong Goku should be post Boo arc. If he's taking hits from %100 of Kid Boo's power in base form and smiling about it, without taking any real damage then certain statements in GT shouldn't be too far fetched. Especially since thats 5 years later.

[Dr. Machismo]

If the Super Saiyan God is permanent, then Goku being stronger than Kid Buu at base in GT makes sense. But that would just be crappy for the story. Goku would be overpowered. Hopefully the Super Saiyan God is not permanent.

Holy crap!

Big Spoiler from the movie ahead!

Spoiler:

I just watch a scene from Birusu vs Goku and Goku actually turns back to base and starts fighting Birusu equally. Looks like SSJ doesn't give him any more power. The power up has to be permanent.

Spoiler:

No, that doesn't mean it's perma

[rereboy]

OK, is it ever stated the Uub's power was as much as Kid Buu's when he fought Goku?

I've always wondered this too.

No, its never stated.. its a wild assumption people have.

Oob only ever so slightly taps into Boo's power, just enough for him to knock Goku off balance, tear up his clothes a bit and confirm that "yup, thats our guy".

Its no different from Gohan tapping into his power when he was younger, giving his uncle a nice head butt and then destroying that mountain.

I don't get it, Oob fighting with %100 or even %50 of Kid Boo's power out right contradicts how some of you feel about how strong Goku should be post Boo arc. If he's taking hits from %100 of Kid Boo's power in base form and smiling about it, without taking any real damage then certain statements in GT shouldn't be too far fetched. Especially since thats 5 years later.

I agree. I see no reason why Uub should be considered to have been as strong as Kid Buu in that fight or close to it. He has Kid Buu's potential but that doesn't mean that he already had all of his power without ever having trained or developed his abilities.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

where is it stated that Uub's power was as much as Kid Buu's when he fought Goku?

It is implied. Goku told Mr. Satan that maybe none of the Z-Senshi would win the tournament (Goku, Goten, Trunks, Pan, and Mr. Boo). After the fight, Goku said that Oob was exactly as amazing as he expected.

If the Super Saiyan God is permanent, then Goku being stronger than Kid Buu at base in GT makes sense. But that would just be crappy for the story. Goku would be overpowered. Hopefully the Super Saiyan God is not permanent.

If it was permanent, then Goku wouldn't be able to turn Super Saiyan 2 & Super Saiyan 3 in GT.

I don't get it, Oob fighting with %100 or even %50 of Kid Boo's power out right contradicts how some of you feel about how strong Goku should be post Boo arc. If he's taking hits from %100 of Kid Boo's power in base form and smiling about it, without taking any real damage then certain statements in GT shouldn't be too far fetched. Especially since thats 5 years later.

The fight was extremely short, and Goku could barely dodge & couldn't tank Oob's hits, while Oob always had the advantage. They clashed for a short time, only for Oob to throw him away with his Kiai.

Spoiler:

For me, Oob's power was slowly rising, until the final Kiai, which unleashed his full power, which was what Goku wanted to see.

[ZombieVito]

If the Super Saiyan God is permanent, then Goku being stronger than Kid Buu at base in GT makes sense. But that would just be crappy for the story. Goku would be overpowered. Hopefully the Super Saiyan God is not permanent.

Holy crap!

Big Spoiler from the movie ahead!

Spoiler:

I just watch a scene from Birusu vs Goku and Goku actually turns back to base and starts fighting Birusu equally. Looks like SSJ doesn't give him any more power. The power up has to be permanent.

Spoiler:

No, that doesn't mean it's perma

Spoiler:

He losses the form and returns to base and he stills holds up the power and then turns back to SSJG, how can that not be permanent.

[KentalSSJ6]

Zombie, its been stated that even when the time limit expires, some of the energy lingers on. The power of SSJG doesent just vanish, it slowly decreases over time till Goku is back to his normal power.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

He losses the form and returns to base and he stills holds up the power and then turns back to SSJG, how can that not be permanent.

He turned back to Super Saiyan God, which means that he probably lost all the power after SSGod ended for a second time. 5 years later (28th TB), Goku was exciting about a guy that was supposed to be as strong as Pure Boo, and maybe strong enough to even beat him, and Vegeta still believes that he will beat him one day. 5 years after that (GT), Goku can turn Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, and even Super Saiyan 4, and he is also very close in power with Vegeta, to the point that they can use Fusion. Alternatively, 23 years later (DBO), Goku leaves with Vegeta in space for a final battle to settle their rivalry, because they realize their life is coming to an end.

If Goku had kept the power, then Oob & Vegeta would be completely irrelevant for him even after 100 years, and he shouldn't be able to go beyond Super Saiyan.