Discussion, generally of an in-universe nature, regarding any aspect of the franchise (including movies, spin-offs, etc.) such as: techniques, character relationships, internal back-history, its universe, and more.
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Saiga
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by Saiga » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:46 am
TheGmGoken wrote:Saiga wrote:I think it must be a very difficult technique to learn. Goku took over a year to learn it and he's a genius.
They had 3 years to learn it. Goku could have easily taught it to Gohan in the ROSAT or Piccolo during the 3 year wait,
I know that. But 3 years might not even be enough if it's so difficult to learn.
As for Cell learning it, his quote sounds like it was completely unintentional so I like the theory of him integrating some of Goku's cells and acquiring it.
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DBZGTKOSDH
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:34 am
Shunkan Ido sounds like a very difficult technique to learn (it took Goku, a fighting genius, a year to learn it), and the only chance Goku has to teach it to anyone is only after Boo's death. Before that, Goku was either dead, or everyone focused on increasing their powers rather than waste a year on such a technique.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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xJeffx
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by xJeffx » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:28 pm
We know Cell and Buu learned it because they saw Goku used it. But how did Cooler know Shunkan Ido? Did he also went to Yardrat?
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KentalSSJ6
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by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:31 pm
xJeffx wrote:We know Cell and Buu learned it because they saw Goku used it. But how did Cooler know Shunkan Ido? Did he also went to Yardrat?
Movie logic. Same logic that allows Pre Namek Goku to withstand a X100 Kaio-Ken and beat a monster in SSJ3 that not even Mystic Gohan or SSJ3 Gotenks could dent.
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DBZGTKOSDH
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:53 pm
xJeffx wrote:We know Cell and Buu learned it because they saw Goku used it.
Boo actually learned Kaioshin's version.
xJeffx wrote:But how did Cooler know Shunkan Ido? Did he also went to Yardrat?
I guess Yardrat isn't the only place to learn this technique.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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TheGmGoken
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by TheGmGoken » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:00 pm
I know that. But 3 years might not even be enough if it's so difficult to learn.
In the past. Once someone learns an attack it becomes easier to learn. I don't know why...but it does.
