Gogeta Compared To Vegito

[Cursed Lemon]

I guess that's fair, I forgot that Goten and Trunks actually trained as Gotenks in the ROSAT.

[Logan]

Goku and Vegeta were likely at different levels of strength between using Vegetto and Gogeta. That span of time would've allowed them to train more and get even stronger. Of course Gogeta is stronger. Now if they had used the Potara at that same period of time, that might be a different story...

[TheMightyOzaru]

Goku and Vegeta were likely at different levels of strength between using Vegetto and Gogeta. That span of time would've allowed them to train more and get even stronger. Of course Gogeta is stronger. Now if they had used the Potara at that same period of time, that might be a different story...

Ahem. Sir, Rou Kaioshin stated the Potara is the superior fusion method. Vegetto is stronger. The question is how much stronger.

[Kakashi]

where do you place SSJ3 Gogeta?

A little stronger than Ultimate Gohan, but weaker than Gotenks Boo.

That's absurd

Goku and Vegeta are several times stronger than the kids. The difference between Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger and the rival boots on top. SSjin 3 Gogeta > SSjin Vegetto. The difference can't be that big between Gogeta and Vegetto

[RandomGuy96]

The difference between Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger and the rival boots on top

What the hell does this sentence even mean? "Rival boots on top"? Does Gogeta wear specially made boots on his head to boost his strength?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

where do you place SSJ3 Gogeta?

A little stronger than Ultimate Gohan, but weaker than Gotenks Boo.

That's absurd

Goku and Vegeta are several times stronger than the kids. The difference between Gogeta and Gotenks is even much bigger and the rival boots on top. SSjin 3 Gogeta > SSjin Vegetto. The difference can't be that big between Gogeta and Vegetto

I want proof about Goku & Vegeta are several times stronger than Goten & Trunks, and prove me that the rage boost exists.

[Kakashi]

I want proof about Goku & Vegeta are several times stronger than Goten & Trunks, and prove me that the rage boost exists.

The kids before the ROSAT are much weaker than Gohan. They are not much stronger after ROSAT except Gotenks

Rival boots come from Goku and Vegeta and Elder Kaioshin said Vegetto is strong because he is fused and since Goku and Vegeta are rivals and not entirely because of the potara

[rereboy]

I want proof about Goku & Vegeta are several times stronger than Goten & Trunks, and prove me that the rage boost exists.

The kids before the ROSAT are much weaker than Gohan. They are not much stronger after ROSAT except Gotenks

Rival boots come from Goku and Vegeta and Elder Kaioshin said Vegetto is strong because he is fused and since Goku and Vegeta are rivals and not entirely because of the potara

Goten and Trunks are also rivals.

[Kamiccolo9]

I want proof about Goku & Vegeta are several times stronger than Goten & Trunks, and prove me that the rage boost exists.

Rival boots come from Goku and Vegeta and Elder Kaioshin said Vegetto is strong because he is fused and since Goku and Vegeta are rivals and not entirely because of the potara

Rival boots are not a thing. Seriously, if you just typed it once, then it's an honest mistake, but this is something like the third time you've done this. Boost. It's not that hard.

[Cursed Lemon]

How powerful are Gogeta boots?

[Kamiccolo9]

How powerful are Gogeta boots?

In my humble opinion, they are over nine-thous-*gets shot*

[MDSTSSJ]

Goten and Trunks are also rivals.

Goten and Trunks are not rivals like his fathers. In fact, I think they are far from being rivals.

Rivals like Vegeta and Goku not sparring each other, no hanging out together, not seek adventures together, etc, etc, etc

For me, the rival boost thing has no effect on Gotenks!

[goku the krump dancer]

I agree, Goten and Trunks are definitely friends way before they are rivals. Which is the exact opposite for their fathers.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The kids before the ROSAT are much weaker than Gohan. They are not much stronger after ROSAT except Gotenks

Goten was a good sparring partner for Gohan, and Vegeta was forced to punch Trunks to stop him when Trunks was trowing him punches in full power. Proven by the fight between SS2 Gohan & Perfect Cell, Goten & Trunks are less than 2 times weaker than Gohan & Vegeta, who are close in power with Goku.

Rival boots come from Goku and Vegeta and Elder Kaioshin said Vegetto is strong because he is fused and since Goku and Vegeta are rivals and not entirely because of the potara

The "rival boost" is a fan interpretation, not a fact. The way I see it, Goku & Vegeta being rivals affected Vegetto's power because as rivals, they were equals, and since they are equals, they match better than Goku & Gohan who are not equals. Fusion however has a stable multiplier IMO, so it doesn't matter what Goku & Vegeta or Goten & Trunks are, be it rivals, friends, or lovers.

[rereboy]

Goten and Trunks are also rivals.

Goten and Trunks are not rivals like his fathers. In fact, I think they are far from being rivals.

Rivals like Vegeta and Goku not sparring each other, no hanging out together, not seek adventures together, etc, etc, etc

For me, the rival boost thing has no effect on Gotenks!

I don't agree. They might not be rivals AS BIG as their fathers, but they are rivals. They are used to competing with each other to see who is the best and they take that very seriously as we saw during their fight in the tournament.

I agree, Goten and Trunks are definitely friends way before they are rivals. Which is the exact opposite for their fathers.

Friends can't compete with each other and be rivals...? Just look at their fight in the tournament. Their rivalry just isn't as big as between their fathers, its a healthier kind of rivalry, closer to the one that their fathers eventually achieve after the Buu saga than the one prior to that.

In fact, considering that Goten and Trunks love to fight way less than their fathers, I'm pretty sure that their rivalry is the highest rivalry they can have regarding fighting.

[MDSTSSJ]

I don't agree. They might not be rivals AS BIG as their fathers, but they are rivals. They are used to competing with each other to see who is the best and they take that very seriously as we saw during their fight in the tournament.

The true rivalry is one where you compete without exposing your own techniques, not share secrets about skills, etc, and even less hanging around with your rival!

its a healthier kind of rivalry

Mmm I could live with that statement but not enough to achieve the rival boost, the perfect match that Kaio stated!

closer to the one that their fathers eventually achieve after the Buu saga than the one prior to that.

Mmm they improved their " friendship " but his rivalry is still great!

[rereboy]

its a healthier kind of rivalry

Mmm I could live with that statement but not enough to achieve the rival boost, the perfect match that Kaio stated!

Then you are just choosing that you think fits best with your convictions.

[khalildh]

The only way to answer this is to answer if you believe Goten in the Boo saga could have beaten Frieza.

If yes then Gogeta is really weak, if no then Gogeta is really close to Vegito.

Pick 1 because the topic is really old.

Also SSJ3 Gogeta has to be stronger than Buutenks.


SSJ3 Gotenks = 1
Evil Boo = 1
Gohan = 1.25
Bootenks = 2

If Gogeta is 2x Gotenks than he is at least Bootenks level.

but if Goku and Vegeta are 2x their sons. It would be 4x when multiplied.

SSJ3 Gogeta = 4
Boohan = 2.3

For my numbers I usually have the fathers atleast 4x there sons though. So,

SSJ3 Gogeta = 16
SSJ2 Gogeta = 4
SSJ Gogeta = 2

So, in this paradigm Super Vegito would be a bit stronger than Super Gogeta,

SSJ Vegetto = 3
SSJ2 Vegetto = 6
SSJ3 Vegetto = 24

Don't take it too seriously though, it is for fun.

[goku the krump dancer]

I agree, Goten and Trunks are definitely friends way before they are rivals. Which is the exact opposite for their fathers.

Friends can't compete with each other and be rivals...?

Of course they can, but then again if thats the case the two people would be friends before they are rivals meaning they would would rather go out for a drink or something before they start racking their brains on how to beat one another.

Goten and Trunks' fight in the tournament was intense but remember that was a competition and even then in the days leading up to the Budokai and the days that followed Goten didn't really care that Trunks was stronger than him and I'm sure Vegeta's son would feel the same way if the shoe was on the other foot.

The kids would rather go to an amusement park together way before they even think about how they're gonna one up each other. Which is the exact opposite of Goku and Vegeta's relationship.

Goku and Vegeta wouldnt be caught dead doing this.

Spoiler:

[dario03]

but if Goku and Vegeta are 2x their sons. It would be 4x when multiplied.

What kind of multiplication are you using for fusion?
Because using a basic (a+b)x# wouldn't do that.

If for example
fusion dance - 100x

Goten and Trunks - 1
(1+1)x100=200

Goku and Vegeta - 2
(2+2)x100=400