Which all contribute to the argument that any comments made by Piccolo in regard to Gotenks' strength in relation to Buu aren't particularly reliable as evidence for the former being stronger than the latter.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Piccolo had just gotten excited from Gotenks' power up, and with Gotenks being so overconfident, he also thought for a second that maybe he could beat Boo like that. He probably didn't compare base Gotenks with SS Gotenks.Blade wrote:I don't see how anything you're saying here in any way supports the validity of Piccolo's observations about Gotenks' strength.
Same thing happened when Kuririn was excited with Goku's power up when he came to Namek. He didn't compare Goku's strength with Freeza's strength, and concluded that Goku was stronger. He just saw Goku so strong, his excitement made him believe that Goku could beat Freeza.
With Kaioshin, he had seen SS2 Gohan's power, and he was told that Goku & Vegeta were on the same level, and all 3 of them could get even stronger than that, yet he thought that Pui Pui & Yakon would be difficult opponents for the Saiyan because of his paranoia, even though Pui Pui was shown to be child's play for base Vegeta, and Gohan said that he & Goku should be strong enough to beat Yakon together without Super Saiyan.
After Cell was blown up by Goku's Shunkan Ido Kamehameha, Kuririn & co. thought that Cell was dead and because of their excitement, they didn't even notice that he was alive from his ki. Same thing when Piccolo thought that Gohan was killed by Cell, except that this time his judgment was clouded because of his rage with Goku.
My point is that the emotions can cloud one's judgment for a moment when it comes to ki sensing, like in all these examples, including the situation with Piccolo & Gotenks, and also that they don't have a number in the back of their heads to compare someone with someone else. A clear example of this is when Piccolo thought that he had surpassed the Artificial Humans that were supposedly stronger than SS Trunks. He didn't think "I can beat them, and my power is also greater than Trunks' back then, so I'm stronger than him!". He thought "I can beat them so I'm stronger than them!".
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Re: Buff Boo
Yes, this makes Piccolo's statement unreliable, but not Piccolo himself unreliable. All the points where someone made mistakes about one's power (and coincidentally, Piccolo made more than one mistakes) where quick & mistaken conclusions that lasted for seconds, and they were quickly corrected.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Buff Boo
Considering there is no such thing as Buff Buu (unless your talking outside the Manga) you must mean KidBuu who is shown to be the strongest of the 3 forms of Buu (outside of the Gotenks and Gohan absorbed forms).
No matter what, Gohan Gotenks and Super Buu are all shown to be about the same in power, so much so that Trunks arrogantly tried to claim that Gotenks could be on Par with Gohan. With KidBuu on the other hand, he was said to be getting stronger than his previous forms and in the anime it is pretty blatant about calling it his toughest (if not strongest?) form.
Actually, what made KidBuu so much stronger than the other Buus wasn't just his power, but his regeneration abilities that no Buu before him could match. It was meant to show that not only is he powerful, but he also near indestructible, making him a perfect contrast to Goku's SSJ3 form of extreme power and limited stamina.
KidBuu
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SuperBuu
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No matter what, Gohan Gotenks and Super Buu are all shown to be about the same in power, so much so that Trunks arrogantly tried to claim that Gotenks could be on Par with Gohan. With KidBuu on the other hand, he was said to be getting stronger than his previous forms and in the anime it is pretty blatant about calling it his toughest (if not strongest?) form.
Actually, what made KidBuu so much stronger than the other Buus wasn't just his power, but his regeneration abilities that no Buu before him could match. It was meant to show that not only is he powerful, but he also near indestructible, making him a perfect contrast to Goku's SSJ3 form of extreme power and limited stamina.
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Re: Buff Boo
Zantetsuken wrote:Considering there is no such thing as Buff Buu (unless your talking outside the Manga)
When? When Goku stated that he and Vegeta would die if they faced Buu as he was at that moment (he was Super Buu at that moment)? When Goku was confident in taking Kid Buu on and being happy that Buu had reverted back to Kid Buu and never once regretted that Buu had reverted back to Kid Buu as he was fighting him?Zantetsuken wrote: you must mean KidBuu who is shown to be the strongest of the 3 forms of Buu (outside of the Gotenks and Gohan absorbed forms).
Super Buu regenerated from ashes in his fight with Gotenks. When did Kid Buu regenerate from ashes?Zantetsuken wrote:
Actually, what made KidBuu so much stronger than the other Buus wasn't just his power, but his regeneration abilities that no Buu before him could match. It was meant to show that not only is he powerful, but he also near indestructible, making him a perfect contrast to Goku's SSJ3 form of extreme power and limited stamina.
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^ Going by his logic, this is Pure Boo. Even though there are statements that explain the opposite that this isn't the case:
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P2.3-7, P3.3
Context: after reverting to his South Kaioshin form, Boo continues to change
Vegeta: “…Look…He intends to perform another transformation…”
[ ]
Goku: “…I wish he’d cut that out…”
Kaioshin: “Th-this can’t be…it’s impossible…He’s cha-changing back…”
*Boo changes back into his pure form*
Kaioshin: “…I…I knew it…”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Kaioshin: “In m…my era there were five Kaioshins…until they were defeated by the Majin Boo that the wizard Babidi created…I was the youngest and most powerless one, but I somehow survived, with only heavy injuries…But the other four fell to Boo…First, two were killed…the North Kaioshin and the West Kaioshin….And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….. “
Elder Kaioshin: …And he became that huge Boo from before? “
Kaioshin: “…Yes…”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P2.3-7, P3.3
Context: after reverting to his South Kaioshin form, Boo continues to change
Vegeta: “…Look…He intends to perform another transformation…”
[ ]
Goku: “…I wish he’d cut that out…”
Kaioshin: “Th-this can’t be…it’s impossible…He’s cha-changing back…”
*Boo changes back into his pure form*
Kaioshin: “…I…I knew it…”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Kaioshin: “In m…my era there were five Kaioshins…until they were defeated by the Majin Boo that the wizard Babidi created…I was the youngest and most powerless one, but I somehow survived, with only heavy injuries…But the other four fell to Boo…First, two were killed…the North Kaioshin and the West Kaioshin….And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….. “
Elder Kaioshin: …And he became that huge Boo from before? “
Kaioshin: “…Yes…”
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Buff Boo
Still PureBuu. And didn Metrite give you an awesome explaination that left you speachless??DBZGTKOSDH wrote:^ Going by his logic, this is Pure Boo. Even though there are statements that explain the opposite that this isn't the case:
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P2.3-7, P3.3
Context: after reverting to his South Kaioshin form, Boo continues to change
Vegeta: “…Look…He intends to perform another transformation…”
[ ]
Goku: “…I wish he’d cut that out…”
Kaioshin: “Th-this can’t be…it’s impossible…He’s cha-changing back…”
*Boo changes back into his pure form*
Kaioshin: “…I…I knew it…”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Kaioshin: “In m…my era there were five Kaioshins…until they were defeated by the Majin Boo that the wizard Babidi created…I was the youngest and most powerless one, but I somehow survived, with only heavy injuries…But the other four fell to Boo…First, two were killed…the North Kaioshin and the West Kaioshin….And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….. “
Elder Kaioshin: …And he became that huge Boo from before? “
Kaioshin: “…Yes…”
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 7&start=80
Ahh, there it is.
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Re: Buff Boo
What "awesome explanation that left me speechless"? Show me specifically what he said about it instead of posting a page which contains 3 posts of Metrite, with a huge one being one of them that talks about many things.Zantetsuken wrote:Still PureBuu. And didn Metrite give you an awesome explaination that left you speachless??
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 7&start=80
Ahh, there it is.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Buff Boo
Not really. His stated arguments for Pure Buu being stronger are illogical.Zantetsuken wrote:
Still PureBuu. And didn Metrite give you an awesome explaination that left you speachless??
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 7&start=80
Ahh, there it is.
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Re: Buff Boo
Guys, check out these awesome debating skills. Take notes.Still PureBuu.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: Buff Boo
Uh huh, to which you and haven't responded to as of yet. He's right though, you and the rest of your powerranger squad feel you, and you alone have deep intricate monopoly on understanding the manga and anime - there is no question or doubt in my mind - there is No BUFF* buu. That's PureBuu buffed up, much like Trunks in ASSJ or Cell - but not a completely seperate form.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What "awesome explanation that left me speechless"? Show me specifically what he said about it instead of posting a page which contains 3 posts of Metrite, with a huge one being one of them that talks about many things.Zantetsuken wrote:Still PureBuu. And didn Metrite give you an awesome explaination that left you speachless??
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 7&start=80
Ahh, there it is.
As for any other comments on the matter, you can respond to your butt kicking in the previous thread. I'll be watching.
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Re: Buff Boo
Ok not to mini mod. But I'll give you some advice since I have 2 strikes for this exact reason. WATCH YOUR ATTITUDE. The stuff I bold you need to either edit your post to remove them or stop it now. This is NOT a HighSchool. This is a forum that is mature. So please stop with the "Butt kicking", "Left you speechless". Just cause he didn't respond doesn't mean he's speechless. He just doesn't have to need to answer maybe? Or the discussion was going in circles. So please watch your tone.Zantetsuken wrote:Uh huh, to which you and haven't responded to as of yet. He's right though, you and the rest of your powerranger squad feel you, and you alone have deep intricate monopoly on understanding the manga and anime - there is no question or doube in my mind - there is No BUFF* buu. That's PureBuu buffed up, much like Trunks in ASSJ or Cell - but not a completely seperate form.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:What "awesome explanation that left me speechless"? Show me specifically what he said about it instead of posting a page which contains 3 posts of Metrite, with a huge one being one of them that talks about many things.Zantetsuken wrote:Still PureBuu. And didn Metrite give you an awesome explaination that left you speachless??
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... 7&start=80
Ahh, there it is.
As for any other comments on the matter, you can respond to your butt kicking in the previous thread. I'll be watching.
Now onto Buff Boo. He is not Pure Boo buffed up. It's not similar to the SSJ Grades. "Buff Boo" is Majin Boo with South Surpreme Kai eaten. Just like how when Majin Boo ate Gohan he was Majin Boo with Gohan eaten. So yes "Buff" Boo is a separate form. It's no different from when Boo ate anyone else. It's not Pure Boo buffed up. It's Majin Boo with South Surpeme Kai eaten.
Also the power ranger shit. What's that? You mean that little Code Red, Blue, Yellow, and Orange(There is more colors) shit we USED to do?You mean the shit we haven't done in two months? Totally irrelevant to the conversation and did not help your opinion at all. Came off as an insult rather than anything. So I'll just quote VegettoEX and say this:
Now once again sorry for mini modding there. Had to prevent someone from getting in trouble in similar ways I did. But at least I put my input on Buff BooVegettoEX wrote: At the same time, we absolutely have rules in place for this specific community that you agreed to twice before sighing up
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Re: Buff Boo
Are you not apart of the forum powerranger crew? You should probably check yourself before you bother saying anything to me.TheGmGoken wrote: Ok not to mini mod. But I'll give you some advice since I have 2 strikes for this exact reason. WATCH YOUR ATTITUDE. The stuff I bold you need to either edit your post to remove them or stop it now. This is NOT a HighSchool. This is a forum that is mature. So please stop with the "Butt kicking", "Left you speechless". Just cause he didn't respond doesn't mean he's speechless. He just doesn't have to need to answer maybe? Or the discussion was going in circles. So please watch your tone.
Now onto Buff Boo. He is not Pure Boo buffed up. It's not similar to the SSJ Grades. "Buff Boo" is Majin Boo with South Surpreme Kai eaten. Just like how when Majin Boo ate Gohan he was Majin Boo with Gohan eaten. So yes "Buff" Boo is a separate form. It's no different from when Boo ate anyone else. It's not Pure Boo buffed up. It's Majin Boo with South Surpeme Kai eaten.
Also the power ranger shit. What's that? You mean that little Code Red, Blue, Yellow, and Orange(There is more colors) shit we USED to do?You mean the shit we haven't done in two months? Totally irrelevant to the conversation and did not help your opinion at all. Came off as an insult rather than anything. So I'll just quote VegettoEX and say this:
Now once again sorry for mini modding there. Had to prevent someone from getting in trouble in similar ways I did. But at least I put my input on Buff BooVegettoEX wrote: At the same time, we absolutely have rules in place for this specific community that you agreed to twice before sighing up
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Re: Buff Boo
Not to engage into what seem to be an insult battle. But the "Power Rangers crew"....haven't done anything in 2 months. Why should I check myself for you? What does this have to do with the debate? Please stuff on topic please? Anwser this. Don't insult anyone or Power Ranger this and that. Just debate this and only this(Plus some stuff that might have to do with Boo)Zantetsuken wrote:Are you not apart of the forum powerranger crew? You should probably check yourself before you bother saying anything to me.TheGmGoken wrote: Ok not to mini mod. But I'll give you some advice since I have 2 strikes for this exact reason. WATCH YOUR ATTITUDE. The stuff I bold you need to either edit your post to remove them or stop it now. This is NOT a HighSchool. This is a forum that is mature. So please stop with the "Butt kicking", "Left you speechless". Just cause he didn't respond doesn't mean he's speechless. He just doesn't have to need to answer maybe? Or the discussion was going in circles. So please watch your tone.
Now onto Buff Boo. He is not Pure Boo buffed up. It's not similar to the SSJ Grades. "Buff Boo" is Majin Boo with South Surpreme Kai eaten. Just like how when Majin Boo ate Gohan he was Majin Boo with Gohan eaten. So yes "Buff" Boo is a separate form. It's no different from when Boo ate anyone else. It's not Pure Boo buffed up. It's Majin Boo with South Surpeme Kai eaten.
Also the power ranger shit. What's that? You mean that little Code Red, Blue, Yellow, and Orange(There is more colors) shit we USED to do?You mean the shit we haven't done in two months? Totally irrelevant to the conversation and did not help your opinion at all. Came off as an insult rather than anything. So I'll just quote VegettoEX and say this:
Now once again sorry for mini modding there. Had to prevent someone from getting in trouble in similar ways I did. But at least I put my input on Buff BooVegettoEX wrote: At the same time, we absolutely have rules in place for this specific community that you agreed to twice before sighing up
Explain yourself on how this is only Pure Boo buffed up instead of Boo with South Surpeme Kai eaten. Since when Boo ate Gohan. He became Gohan Boo. So why should this be anything different?TheGmGoken wrote:.
Now onto Buff Boo. He is not Pure Boo buffed up. It's not similar to the SSJ Grades. "Buff Boo" is Majin Boo with South Surpreme Kai eaten. Just like how when Majin Boo ate Gohan he was Majin Boo with Gohan eaten. So yes "Buff" Boo is a separate form. It's no different from when Boo ate anyone else. It's not Pure Boo buffed up. It's Majin Boo with South Surpeme Kai eaten.
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Re: Buff Boo
Since you need me to spell it out for you - you're part of your forum patrol squad, I made a comment directed at you and the members of that "crew" I don't know what you do, how active you are and it really doesn't matter. You taking offense to me pointing out the obvious is another issue entirely. I suggest you reevaluate yourself (especially since you openly admit to be breaking the rules) before you attack me on a comment that wasn't meant to be derogatory.TheGmGoken wrote:Not to engage into what seem to be an insult battle. But the "Power Rangers crew"....haven't done anything in 2 months. Why should I check myself for you? What does this have to do with the debate? Please stuff on topic please? Anwser this. Don't insult anyone or Power Ranger this and that. Just debate this and only this(Plus some stuff that might have to do with Boo)
Explain yourself on how this is only Pure Boo buffed up instead of Boo with South Surpeme Kai eaten. Since when Boo ate Gohan. He became Gohan Boo. So why should this be anything different?TheGmGoken wrote:.
Now onto Buff Boo. He is not Pure Boo buffed up. It's not similar to the SSJ Grades. "Buff Boo" is Majin Boo with South Surpreme Kai eaten. Just like how when Majin Boo ate Gohan he was Majin Boo with Gohan eaten. So yes "Buff" Boo is a separate form. It's no different from when Boo ate anyone else. It's not Pure Boo buffed up. It's Majin Boo with South Surpeme Kai eaten.
I notice you took no issue with Random’s useless post but have targeted me directly. Honesty, I more than capable of defending myself, but why should I? Mind your business and move on to the next subject.
For the record, we are assuming that Buu is reverting back through his forms, but why didn't he turn into the fat Buu and THEN the "buff" buu and finally Kidbuu?
Re: Buff Boo
Because Fat Buu was somewhere inside him. Kaioshin recognized that form and realized that he was reverting back when he finished the process.Zantetsuken wrote:For the record, we are assuming that Buu is reverting back through his forms, but why didn't he turn into the fat Buu and THEN the "buff" buu and finally Kidbuu?
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....Nothing was obvious. It had NOTHING to do with the debate. Now please stick the this topic and not what the other and myself do on the forums.Since you need me to spell it out for you - you're part of your forum patrol squad, I made a comment directed at you and the members of that "crew" I don't know what you do, how active you are and it really doesn't matter. You taking offense to me pointing out the obvious is another issue entirely.
I admit to past mistakes. Nothing is wrong with that. I never attacked you. I gave you advice. Random post was pointless I admit. I'm not a police. I don't have to respond to every person who break a rule. I'm not an admin. Onto the bold parts. Sir you're on a public forum. I have the right to reply to your post and what "next subject". I gave you my input on Buff Boo. Which is the subject on the topic.I suggest you reevaluate yourself (especially since you openly admit to be breaking the rules) before you attack me on a comment that wasn't meant to be derogatory.
I notice you took no issue with Random’s useless post but have targeted me directly. Honesty, I more than capable of defending myself, but why should I? Mind your business and move on to the next subject.
Because he still has Fat Boo inside of him. Why would he turn into Fat boo if Fat Boo was never removed? Why would he turn into Fat Boo when Fat Boo is already inside of him? He didn't expel Fat Boo until Mr.Satan came. Which he stayed Pure Boo since Fat Boo became his own thing instead of another part Boo(Hence why he didn't turn into Skinny Boo). So if you remove all of his power he has taken(South Kai, The Z fighters he absorbed, and Fat Boo) he turns back into his original form.For the record, we are assuming that Buu is reverting back through his forms, but why didn't he turn into the fat Buu and THEN the "buff" buu and finally Kidbuu?
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Re: Buff Boo
He lost the influence of the two Kaioushin when their ki dissipated from his body. Since Dai Kaioushin wouldn't have been supplying him with as much ki (since he was weaker and "newer" than South), his ki would have burned out sooner, resulting in just South Kaioushin's influence (and the resulting comment about Buu "getting stronger"). Once South Kaioushin's ki burned out, the strength that Buu got from it would have dissipated and his form would have reverted to his pure, original state, weaker than it was when he had South's influence in him.
I don't understand why you'd say it's still just Pure Buu, only buffed up like what Trunks did, when dialogue is included in the manga to firmly establish that it is the form that Buu took when he absorbed South Kaioushin. If the dialogue wasn't in there, then sure, you could argue as such, but I don't see what other reason Toriyama would have had to include Rou asking about that "Buff" Buu (and Kibitoshin confirming it), other than to let the readers know exactly what this new form of Buu was supposed to represent. A clear transformation is mentioned and a clear explanation for its origin is given, so there's no reason to disregard it.
I don't understand why you'd say it's still just Pure Buu, only buffed up like what Trunks did, when dialogue is included in the manga to firmly establish that it is the form that Buu took when he absorbed South Kaioushin. If the dialogue wasn't in there, then sure, you could argue as such, but I don't see what other reason Toriyama would have had to include Rou asking about that "Buff" Buu (and Kibitoshin confirming it), other than to let the readers know exactly what this new form of Buu was supposed to represent. A clear transformation is mentioned and a clear explanation for its origin is given, so there's no reason to disregard it.
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Re: Buff Boo
You should both check yourselves before you wreck yourselves. Mostly Zantetsuken for the overly competitive and bossy attitude, but we'd appreciate it if TheGmGoken would use the report button instead of mini-modding if he feels there's a problem from now on.Zantetsuken wrote:Are you not apart of the forum powerranger crew? You should probably check yourself before you bother saying anything to me.TheGmGoken wrote:Now once again sorry for mini modding there. Had to prevent someone from getting in trouble in similar ways I did. But at least I put my input on Buff Boo
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Re: Buff Boo
Ok I'll use the report button. Honestly forgot that it was there.Kaboom wrote:You should both check yourselves before you wreck yourselves. Mostly Zantetsuken for the overly competitive and bossy attitude, but we'd appreciate it if TheGmGoken would use the report button instead of mini-modding if he feels there's a problem from now on.Zantetsuken wrote:Are you not apart of the forum powerranger crew? You should probably check yourself before you bother saying anything to me.TheGmGoken wrote:Now once again sorry for mini modding there. Had to prevent someone from getting in trouble in similar ways I did. But at least I put my input on Buff Boo
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Re: Buff Boo
I'm not one of the"powerranger" squad, and you never responded in my last response to you in the previous thread. Instead, you walked away by saying "this is wrong I can't take it I'm out of here Goku is #1".Zantetsuken wrote:Uh huh, to which you and haven't responded to as of yet. He's right though, you and the rest of your powerranger squad feel you, and you alone have deep intricate monopoly on understanding the manga and anime - there is no question or doubt in my mind - there is No BUFF* buu. That's PureBuu buffed up, much like Trunks in ASSJ or Cell - but not a completely seperate form.
As for any other comments on the matter, you can respond to your butt kicking in the previous thread. I'll be watching.
And if there isn't buff Boo, then what was Kaioshin talking about? He said that the buff Boo was the same form Boo had when he absorbed South Kaioshin.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.