The height conundrum

[Attitudefan]

175 cm is just barely under 5'9". Just do the conversion. 68.8976 inches or roughly 5'8.9". 170 cm is 5'7". But I swear a few times I've read around that he was listed (in the imperial system conversion) at 5'7".

Ah, they probably made the same mistake I just did and forgot that 5.74 feet doesn't equal 5'74".

*redface*

Haha! No worries!

SO that means, I guess, that Evil Buu is probably the tallest character minus the Oozaru! Damn.

[RandomGuy96]

SO that means, I guess, that Evil Buu is probably the tallest character minus the Oozaru! Damn.

Well, giant Piccolo and probably Guru would be taller.

[rereboy]

Broly is also gigantic.

[RandomGuy96]

LSS Broly might be a little taller than Super Buu, but I still think he'd be below Evil Buu, judging by how massive Evil Buu looks compared to Fat Buu. Base Broly is also quite big though, taller than Piccolo (who really doesn't look 7'6 in the Movie 8 height chart).

[Attitudefan]

I was searching the net and saw that on another forum people were taking of the sane thing. However, I saw few pictures that showed Vegeta taller than Bulma in the Buu arc. In the same arc on the images in the forum, Vegeta was also shorter than her.


saw pictures of confirming Goku is only up to about Ten's shoulders. 5'9" is way too tall for Son!! I'll make a height chart soon. While it may not be official it is based off references from the manga and anime.

[RandomGuy96]

Like I said, a head is about 8 inches. For Goku to not even reach that on Ten, either Goku is not 5'7 or, more likely, Ten is not 6'1.5

[Attitudefan]

Like I said, a head is about 8 inches. For Goku to not even reach that on Ten, either Goku is not 5'7 or, more likely, Ten is not 6'1.5

Hmm. Yamcha was his proper height in relation to Ten. Hell, of Goku is shorter then it could make sense. I could see Goku being 5'5. However, that shot was done by Last House so Goku may be a little too short. Either that or Ten is 6'3. Yamcha had his eye level to about Ten's nose or mouth. About a 3 inch difference. I can believe Ten is 6'3. That, or he wears lifts lol

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Just my opinion, but if you're going to make an unofficially "official" height chart, then you should ignore the anime (except in the case of anime exclusive characters).

[El Diabeetus]

Huh, Mr. Satan is only two cm shorter than me. I converted 6'3 to cm and got 190.5 cm. Piccolo is pretty much Shaq size, haha! Weird to think a majority of the Z Warriors are shorter than me.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Its weird because Fat Buu is in no way ever that gigantic in the Budokai games. Hes more so smaller than Goku is if not the same height... though it could just be balance for the game...

though I could swear Fat buu was real small when he fought kid buu.

Unless Kid Buu is the same height as Super Buu which he surely isn't.

[RandomGuy96]

Pure Buu is maybe half of Super Buu's height. Yeah, I was surprised when I saw that chart too; Fat Buu never looked so big to me.

[Vice]

I don't know what the point was of them making those height comparison charts because they never ever followed them.

[Attitudefan]

I don't know what the point was of them making those height comparison charts because they never ever followed them.

That's not true since Goku in almost every scene with Piccolo is around his shoulder height. Now, it depends whether anyone else had the same height relation with those two when sharing scenes together... that is up to find out.

Pure Buu is maybe half of Super Buu's height. Yeah, I was surprised when I saw that chart too; Fat Buu never looked so big to me.

Actually, I think when Buu first appeared and fought Dabra, he was definitely Dabra's height.

Just my opinion, but if you're going to make an unofficially "official" height chart, then you should ignore the anime (except in the case of anime exclusive characters).

True, however, I think the anime, at least with most of the main characters who been since before the Z portion, have been the same height relation to each other. Most of the time!I think if I were to make an unofficially "official" height chart, I would focus on the main characters first. Then we can see if I were to expand on it.

[Metalwario64]

Actually, I think when Buu first appeared and fought Dabra, he was definitely Dabra's height.

Yeah, I mentioned earlier that he was large in his first few episodes at least. In Studio Cockpit's episode he was HUGE.

[RandomGuy96]

Actually, I think when Buu first appeared and fought Dabra, he was definitely Dabra's height.

It seems then that Fat Buu's height fluctuates depending on who he's fighting. To be fair, so does everyone else, but Fat Buu still seems way too small during the fight with Pure Buu (I'm talking manga here). He goes from almost as tall as Super Buu to even smaller than Goku- much smaller, it seems. Curious, does he ever look that big again after killing Dabra?

[Attitudefan]

Actually, I think when Buu first appeared and fought Dabra, he was definitely Dabra's height.

Yeah, I mentioned earlier that he was large in his first few episodes at least. In Studio Cockpit's episode he was HUGE.

Ooops, I missed/forgot you said that! I apologize!!


It does seem though that different studios had used different height charts. I've seen a few where Vegeta was portrayed taller



He's taller than Bulma!!

It's interesting to note the change in Chi Chi's height:



Vegeta is also way smaller in this (official? Probably) image:

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Now she becomes taller (just like Vegeta):

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About consistency, they have been consistent in the anime. Quite a lot actually (especially with the main cast sans Vegeta)

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Ten, Yamcha, Goku, and Krillin all remain consistent with each other in the same scenes together in terms of height.

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The top of Goku's head remains at Piccolo's shoulders.

It also looks like Toei continued to use Goku's old height from the Ma Jr Saiyan arc up to before the Saiyaman arc:



If I were to wager, I would use heights from when the characters first appeared/when they are more consistent. I would say Goku is as tall as he is (5'7"-5'8"ish) when he first appears as an adult till about the end of the Saiyan arc since his height is consistent through the arcs. It changes when he goes to fight the Ginyu Force since that is when he grows almost 3 inches. So therefore, I would remain in keeping his original height and not his later height in the Namek arc onward since it really isn't so consistent from when he first appeared and how he is with certain people even on wards (ie Goku is STILL up to Piccolo's shoulders despite seemingly growing in and after the Namek arc). Thus, I'll stick to how they first appear (as an adult).

Same with the rest. Bulma is taller than Chi Chi; Vegeta is shorter than Bulma; Zarbon and Dodoria are roughly the same height... etc.

[mister yummy]

I was just hit with a sudden blast of Fridge Brilliance. What if Gravity Training makes you taller? Perhaps a saiyan's spine stretches out to keep them at the same height when the gravity is on, and then they stretch out when it's back to normal.

[Patrick]

Incidentally, I love conversations about fictional character's heights.

As for discussions of Super Buu's height, I think I should toss this into the mix:

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Seems a bit taller than fat Buu (who I could've sworn was sometimes drawn shorter than that, though I know he was drawn huge in the first few episodes, especially the Studio Cockpit episode when he fights Gohan and Kaioshin).

If Gohan is basically 5'9 flat, I'd guess that Super Buu is over 8 feet tall(8'6 maybe?). He looks almost 3 heads taller than Gohan, and assuming that the average human male head is 10 inches, that's almost a 3 foot difference.

As for Piccolo, there are really some shots where he can look as "short" as 6'4, or as tall as the 7'4 he's listed as. He looks like he's 7'4 in this shot...

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But in this shot here, he looks like he's around 6'4, based off Goku being 5'9.

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And when he's looking down at Gohan in the Buu Arc, he looks about 7'-7'1.

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Now, that brings me to another question that I've always wondered. Is Imperfect Cell taller than Perfect Cell? I know it's stated somewhere that Semi-Perfect is obviously larger than Imperfect. However, when Cell finally transform into his perfect form, Vegeta states something along the lines of "Hah, he actually got smaller!".

I guess for comparison, it appears that Imperfect Cell is quite a bit taller than Piccolo even while both are slouching, as seen by this shot.

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Unfortunately, I don't think there's a shot of Piccolo and Perfect Cell standing near one another, so I don't have a picture there. What do you guys think?

[Vice]

That's not true since Goku in almost every scene with Piccolo is around his shoulder height. Now, it depends whether anyone else had the same height relation with those two when sharing scenes together... that is up to find out.

This whole topic is about how they didn't. Geez, it's YOUR topic.

[Attitudefan]

That's not true since Goku in almost every scene with Piccolo is around his shoulder height. Now, it depends whether anyone else had the same height relation with those two when sharing scenes together... that is up to find out.

This whole topic is about how they didn't. Geez, it's YOUR topic.

Well, as we can see, Piccolo is around that height relation but, for example, Bulma looks close to Goku's height early on, yet, in the midst of the Buu arc, Bulma is waaaaaaay shorter. WAY SHORTER.

Just as we see, Gohan at 12 years old looks taller than Goku did at that age during the Cell games, however, when they wish Trunks back to life after the fight with Cell is over, Gohan reverts to being around Krillins height, possibly even shorter.

As for Piccolo, there are really some shots where he can look as "short" as 6'4, or as tall as the 7'4 he's listed as. He looks like he's 7'4 in this shot...

And in that shot, Goku's proportions lead me to believe he is under 5'9". However, during the tournament arc with Ma Jr, Piccolo looks smaller than even Ten! Both Ten and Piccolo lock up with Goku early on in the fight (Ten also has a manga chapter title locking up with Son), and he towers over Goku, yet Piccolo Jr looks incredibly smaller. I would say he looks to be around Yamcha's height proportions.

Now, that brings me to another question that I've always wondered. Is Imperfect Cell taller than Perfect Cell? I know it's stated somewhere that Semi-Perfect is obviously larger than Imperfect. However, when Cell finally transform into his perfect form, Vegeta states something along the lines of "Hah, he actually got smaller!".

Obviously Imperfect is huge, no denying that. However, I think his shortest form might be when he absorbs 17. His bulkiness just gives off an illusion that he looks massive. That is why Imperfect is bigger than he looks is because he is so skinny.

Perfect Cell, I'm guessing, is around Piccolo's height (7'-7'4"). That is not including his antennae. Maybe a little under 7 feet. I think Goku's Super Saiyan hair covers the fact that he is utterly dwarfed by Cell.

Trunks roughly comes up to Perfect Cell's shoulders or maybe just a little under. Considering he is around Goku's height, I'd wager Cell is around 7 feet tall.

I don't know if it counts as canon since Toei recognizes that Vegeta grows. In Raging Blast 1, going through the character select, Saiyan arc/Namek arc Vegeta has a shorter game model by about an inch or 2. So, are they officially saying Vegeta grew later on?


Also, it's interesting to note the different proportions they give Goku in a game made after the Buu arc compared to what he was in 1989:

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He looks like about a head taller. His proportions in Raging Blast reflect that in the image I had in my original post with Goku in the Ginyu/Freeza arc. Did he grow too? Maybe not considering that Toei used his model from the Ma Jr arc up until the Buu arc. Nappa looks to have the same proportions in the game as he does in the anime and the manga regarding this image/scene.

I also wonder if people believe Goku is 6 feet due to western socialization? I mean, it's like it is a golden height to have if one is athletic or muscular. Funnily enough the best fighters, best bodybuilders, and best martial artist have been under 6 feet for the most part. I think it must be an American/European thing to have a hero be tall, especially around 6 feet. I like the fact that Goku is not that, at his shortest he could be around 5'7", and his tallest 5'8.8". Wonderful. The tallest human in the group is Ten, who is said to be around 6'1".