Why Was Vegeta Such A Big Hit In The West?

Nikkolas · Post by **Nikkolas** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:14 pm

I remember distinctly cheering for Vegeta while watching DBZ as a young kid. This is Namek arc Vegeta too. I wanted so bad for him to get the wish and be immortal. I was just as mad at Gohan and Krillin as he was for trying to cut him out of the wish.

My reasons? He wasn't a goody-two shoes. He just went around, killed whoever he wanted to kill, took whatever he wanted to take. All with that smirk.

Nowadays I kinda hate him. Well, maybe not hate....just indifferent. And seeing him get beaten by Eighteen makes me smile.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:16 pm

Why is Vegeta so loved WORLDWIDE(Japan love his ass too. Have you seen character polls?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6iilKB0uNM - SAIYAN BLOOD!

That song in a nutshell explains why Vegeta is loved. He can be badass. He can be smart. He can beat the shit of you. He can be awesome. Hell. BoG and YSGAFR proved that he can be funny....by accident.

thatdbzguy · Post by **thatdbzguy** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:26 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Japan love his ass too.

Ew.

Post by **VegettoEX** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:31 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Japan love his ass too.
Ew.

If you wish to continue contributing, be sure to actually contribute. This is a nothing/nonsense post, and enough is enough. You have been given enough free warnings about your posting style/tone and your content, and will be issued formal account strikes from here on out.

thatdbzguy · Post by **thatdbzguy** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:33 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Japan love his ass too.
Ew.
If you wish to continue contributing, be sure to actually contribute. This is a nothing/nonsense post, and enough is enough. You have been given enough free warnings about your posting style/tone and your content, and will be issued formal account strikes from here on out.

If you want to ban me, I won't complain. I think staying here is doing me more harm than good, but I can't just make myself stop coming for some reason.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:37 pm

thatdbzguy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Japan love his ass too.
Ew.

What exactly are you saying "ew" to? The fact that Japan likes him which debunks your post? Or do you not like Vegeta? Just curious. What was the "ew" about?

thatdbzguy · Post by **thatdbzguy** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:38 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Japan love his ass too.
Ew.
What exactly are you saying "ew" to? The fact that Japan likes him which debunks your post? Or do you not like Vegeta? Just curious. What was the "ew" about?

Not getting into it. VegettoEX already told me to stop.

Polyphase Avatron · Post by **Polyphase Avatron** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:13 pm

Wibbs wrote:
WittyUsername wrote:I don't consider Batman to be an anti-hero but anyway, I guess the reason Vegeta is so popular is because many people view him as a "badass."
Oh, sorry. I don't read or watch a lot of Batman material, I just figured he was by the little snippets I have seen.

If you have to compare Batman to any of the Z-senshi it would be later DBZ era Piccolo - that is, he can fight but is not the strongest available, but he's the smart guy who comes up with the plans and strategies, and always keeps a cool head when in danger.

TheGmGoken · Post by **TheGmGoken** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:28 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Wibbs wrote:
WittyUsername wrote:I don't consider Batman to be an anti-hero but anyway, I guess the reason Vegeta is so popular is because many people view him as a "badass."
Oh, sorry. I don't read or watch a lot of Batman material, I just figured he was by the little snippets I have seen.
If you have to compare Batman to any of the Z-senshi it would be later DBZ era Piccolo - that is, he can fight but is not the strongest available, but he's the smart guy who comes up with the plans and strategies, and always keeps a cool head when in danger.

Unless it's "AllStar Batman". Where he's "THE GODDAMN BATMAN!". In which Batman in more or less like Vegeta in Cyborg or Freeza Arc

SingleFringe&Sparks · Post by **SingleFringe&Sparks** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:35 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
thatdbzguy wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Japan love his ass too.
Ew.
What exactly are you saying "ew" to? The fact that Japan likes him which debunks your post? Or do you not like Vegeta? Just curious. What was the "ew" about?

I think he took your post literally.

tx3 · Post by **tx3** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:34 pm

Akumaito Beam wrote:
tx3 wrote:pride, honer fighting spirit ..badass ...toriyama dont like vegeta ..yeah right

Incidentally, who is your favorite character?

Yeah, I guess I like Piccolo the most after all. Out of all the enemies, Piccolo Daimaō is the one I like most, and even after that I like Piccolo the most. I like Piccolo about the same as I like Goku. With Vegeta, well, I don’t like him all that much, but he was extremely helpful to have around. For the recent stuff, it was fun drawing Satan. When I first brought him out, I didn’t think that I would end up making Satan that important of a character. I thought he’d just be a one-shot character.

Satan is like that, but thinking up worthless gags is more enjoyable than doing the fight scenes. (laughs)
That came from the interview in Daizenshuu number 2, here's the source. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... interview/

Funnily enough this kinda helps answer your other thread too.

i recall that he said that once i read this Interview a long time ago..he knows how valuable Vegeta is and i dont think that he hates him or anything like that ...still his best character by far ..he

TenshiGokuu · Post by **TenshiGokuu** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:46 pm

because hes evil and he murdered and killed a lot of people.

90sDBZ · Post by **90sDBZ** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:13 pm

Because everything about him from his hair to his attitude just screams badass. He's basically everything the "adrenaline junkie" side of DBZ is all about. An impulsive maniac who'll stop at nothing to get his way who then turns into a moody jerk who is only just on the side of the good guys and often borders on the verge of evil.

Ninja Murasaki · Post by **Ninja Murasaki** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:18 pm

While comparatively not as popular in Japan as in the West, Vegeta is still pretty popular, he's just not as popular as Goku.

Kid Buu · Post by **Kid Buu** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:20 pm

I would assume he was a unique hero for an American Cartoon at the time.

ABED · Post by **ABED** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:23 pm

I wouldn't consider Vegeta at all like Batman, or Batman to be an antihero. Vegeta, however, is. One of the reasons he's very popular is he doesn't take crap from people. He's also dynamic. When I first saw the series, one of things I loved was watching to see what happened to Vegeta because after his fight on Earth he was going after other bad guys, but was still clearly one himself.

Fionordequester · Post by **Fionordequester** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:58 pm

If there is indeed a difference at all between his popularity in the West and in Japan, I would guess that it's due to his more psychotic personality traits being toned down, at least in terms of dialogue.

DBZ Mick · Post by **DBZ Mick** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:10 am

Something that appealed to pubescent/teenage boys. I don't because he went around killing people or something and was 'badass' with all his dub quotes, I don't know.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:14 pm

Americans are fascinated by royalty, ironically.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:43 am

Rocketman wrote:Americans are fascinated by royalty, ironically.

THIS!

But also paired with the fact him & Goku are the only two characters to stay powerful/relevant throughout the entire course of Z using mostly their own hard work, at least once all those nonsense near-death power-ups came to an end. You know they worked to earn what they got, whereas Gohan eventually relied on a ritual and Goten/Trunks were just born unrealistically gifted, plus fusion. The philosophical rivalry between him & Goku despite similar origin is also interesting, but that's more sub-context than most folks ever think about.

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