DBZ's Reputation With "Hardcore" Anime Fans

[TheGmGoken]

I know many "hardcore" or passionate anime fans that has Dbz as the greatest series ever. Most on internet hate anything popular or mainstream. All media has this. Music, wrestling, dish cleaners, and even acting. In wrestling everyone loves the indies promotion and bash WWE made wrestlers. Hence the term internet darling. Once the darling becomes a main star he gets bashed. If dbz wasn't popular it wouldn't get as much haters. Basically internet hate everything popular and love unpopular shit until it becomes popular.

Trust me there are more hardcore animals fans that like Dbz than hate it. The haters just complain so much that it seems like a lot of people. But if you look closely its the same people complaining all the time. What's funny is the people who "dislike" Dbz have all dvds and tried to bootleg BoG.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Some think it's cool to bash DragonBall Z and praise another anime that isn't mainstream. People can like who they like but don't tell someone that this show is bad and this show is good. There are a lot of anime shows I don't care for but you won't see me make a big deal about it. Liking DragonBall Z does not make you less of an anime fan, considering DragonBall is an anime show.

A lot of newer anime fans like to assume that any new anime that comes out will be better because they assume DBZ is overrated for having "no plot" and claim that anything alternative will surely have the quality they ignorantly argue the western DBZ dub doesnt have and its usually because of the fact its old. I remember it was exactly this when Naruto came out, most of the new Naruto fanboys were transitioning DBZ casuals who thought Naruto had so much more depth at face value just because its plot was more complicated. Then the Bleach famboys started to bash both shows because they thought Bleach was the darker version of both shows for its hipsters.
Now that a lot of new anime is nothing but the same cliche moe-fetish crap people in the west apparently hate they want DBZ back.

[SSJ3_Zack]

I personally stick to just the DragonBall and Berserk fandoms. Something about the Anime community in general seems to irk me, it's sort of reminiscent to Professional wrestling's "IWC" (Internet Wrestling Community).

[TheGmGoken]

I personally stick to just the DragonBall and Berserk fandoms. Something about the Anime community in general seems to irk me, it's sort of reminiscent to Professional wrestling's "IWC" (Internet Wrestling Community).

Yea Iwc hate everything mainstream. Indies are everything to them. If indies wrestler becomes mainstream they hate the star.

[Landcross]

I'll never forget a forum I belonged to in the early 2000's. All the guys there would bash DBZ and talk about how stupid and childish it was...and then they'd go on to download and discuss shows with names like Tiny Snow Fairy Princess Sugar.

[SSDBZGOD]

I moderate a chat room that is on a Dragon Ball Z website and this one particular user always tries to get beneath the skin of anyone who talks about or even mentions Dragon Ball Z or anything related. However, both he and I have locked horns before and I would usually win the "debate" he created. He is someone who is trolling by trying to agitate the random Dragon Ball fan enough so that fan could be banned, even though refuses to admit so. Most people who despise the Dragon Ball franchise will most likely say the following when asked why they hate it: "It's all power-ups and screams", "All they do is scream for a long period of time", "Death means nothing in that show" ect. Personally, I do not despise Dragon Ball but I do despise some of its fan-base.
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[penguintruth]

I've watched over a hundred anime, to the point where I bleed the stuff, but I still have a great affection for the DB franchise. I think so many people do, but don't want to admit it, as they feel it might ruin their credibility as an anime fan. I wouldn't say it's in my top ten, but even after all this time I find it enjoyable and definitely have a passion for aspects of it.

[dprez]

"Dragon Ball Z has been surpassed." This is something I would imagine a "hardcore" anime fan saying. Frankly, they wouldn't be wrong, but I would lose credibility in their opinion if they don't at least acknowledge or admire the Dragon Ball/Z anime. It really is good, and has superb qualities that make up for its lackluster ones. It deserves respect, and can easily be appreciated with an open mind. You don't have to be a simpleton to think DBZ is the best ever. You can also be a cynical intellectual and like DBZ just the same.

[SSJ3_Zack]

Yea Iwc hate everything mainstream. Indies are everything to them. If indies wrestler becomes mainstream they hate the star.

That's true, also it seems the majority of the "IWC" has turned it's back on CM Punk since he left the WWE. But going back onto the topic a while back a Anime Nerd (Self-Professed) derided me for enjoying DragonBall Z and listed numerous Anime and Manga that are "Better".

Regarding him and other "Hardcore" Anime Fans, It's a jealous mind set more than anything else, DragonBall, Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh are the franchises which became embedded into mainstream and are still shown on Television to this day. That is because they cater to a lot of people/audiences, children, adults, men and women. They're also highly marketable. A lot of the Anime these people rattle on about are not a) Suitable for Television and b) Quite frankly are not profitable for a network to show on any of it's channels.

Anime/Manga is a Niché market in the West, the ones that have widespread appeal are the ones that can bridge the gap between Niché and Mainstream. DragonBall did that.

I did a survey for my College course a while back and the question was name 3 Anime/Manga shows. DragonBall Z, Pokémon, Yu-Gi-Oh and were the only ones people could think of, with Digimon coming fourth in the survey.

[Daimo-Rukiri]

What I've noticed as time goes along, people actually coming out and saying they like Dragon Ball.
Denied it from 1997-2005, comes out said they love it from 2006-present.

A lot of it has to do with the dub, but with the uncut dvds that were released and if they got a hold of broadcast or fansub tapes their view on the series seems to be different. Now, I do hear Goku shouldn't sound like a girl from both camps, I completely disagree with that entirely and I think it's perfect the way it is.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I find my disturbance more so with the hardcore fanboys who think every new anime that comes out and acknowledges its DBZ influence as a blasphamous rip off that cant be enjoyed because of how much they worship DBZ. The bigotry I read from the hypster fanboys is torture in itself,listening to them thinking that they are better then everyone and everything because of that worship.

[Ringworm128]

I find it hilarious when these people go on about how "adult" these other animes are when most of them are "WE MUST FIGHT TO SAVE OUR FRIENDS! HYPER MEGA BEEEEEEAAAAAM!" Or "Hey Yuki lets pretend we're kittens while eating pockey." Good example is Evangelion, good show with depth to it but the fans exaggerate said depth to no end.

I'll never forget a forum I belonged to in the early 2000's. All the guys there would bash DBZ and talk about how stupid and childish it was...and then they'd go on to download and discuss shows with names like Tiny Snow Fairy Princess Sugar.

Reminds me of what Smochi said

There's nothing like getting mocked by a 22 year old man for liking DBZ shortly before he asks that your club screen Moetan.

[orbweaver]

Well, I'm a DB/DBZ fan who isn't into any other anime to speak of. At all. I am also not fond, generally, of the "otaku" subculture. I haven't found anything else I want to fangirl over (that's anime; my other major fandoms are Star Trek and science fiction literature).

And I have some real-life friends who are the same way. We can talk all day long about DBZ but have little to no interest in other anime or manga.

And hilariously, my friends who are anime fans in general, don't seem to like DBZ. A friend of mine said it's because the art style doesn't appeal to her.

Maybe DBZ kind of is a cult phenomenon. I don't know.

I have a few anime I "like" but wouldn't call myself a fan or a member of the fan community. I like things for the story, not because they are or aren't "anime".

I could be critical of myself for liking a 90s shonen anime, but... I know men my age (40) who are into My Little Pony, so... there's always someone who's in a dorkier fandom than you.