Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by DBZASHKACHU » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:09 am

I thought she was great as Gohan, I've always enjoyed her voice. When Stephanie came back to re-record her lines in the early Ginyu and Frieza sagas she really nailed a young Gohan, I like to reference the "Super Gohan" scene in the Frieza saga. There she sounds great bringing out Gohan's innocent yet geeky personality lol If you compare some of those scenes in the original dub you can see how far she improved in the remastered dub. Too bad redubbing stops when Gohan yells "You Animal!!", I thought her original work was just fine but she sounded pretty darn good in the redub. If she had returned for Kai she probably would of brought that and more to the role.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by Wibbs » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:38 am

I think Nadolny does a good job with Gohan. Sometimes she can come off a bit soulless if you know what I mean, but most of the time I can put up with it. She does ok when she has to yell, but when there's an emotional scene like when Piccolo first dies she doesn't quite get it right. At least she's not as annoying as Clinkenbeard, no disrespect to her but she has a really irritating voice. They both have their flaws, granted it's not as wide a gap as with Freeza's voice actors, but I'd definitely take Nadolny over Clinkenbeard.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by TheAldella » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:41 am

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Oh my goodness. You brought your A-Game for that one. I can't even think about being as good at this Shit as you.

Anyway, I uh...don't really like either of them that much anymore. I like Nadolny's Gohan more than Colleen's, but that's not saying much.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:59 am

Yes, she was bad as Gohan, and an even worse Goku. I agree wholeheartedly with this:
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by thatdbzguy » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:17 am

penguintruth wrote:If I recall, Stephanie Nadolny wasn't available because she doesn't voice act anymore.
Wasn't there an interview where she said that not even she knows why Funi never gave her the option to reprise the role?
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:43 am

No she wasn't.

Stephanie did a great job for Kid Goku and Gohan but her Kid Gohan had an unnecessary too raspy vocal though other than that I'll still rather listen to her Gohan over that annoying college whiny vocal known as Colleen Clinkenbeard.

But either way, none of the two stand up to the Great Masako Nozawa.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by Big Momma » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:54 am

I didn't really have a problem with her, but I do prefer Colleen. IMO, Nadolny's voice just didn't match younger Gohan. It was too deep, and it did have a certain husk to it that I wasn't a fan of. But for some reason, I prefer her over Colleen for Cell Games era Gohan. But then again, I haven't really seen many of those Kai episodes.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:56 am

college whiny vocal known as Colleen Clinkenbeard.
Not even sure what this means.
Wasn't there an interview where she said that not even she knows why Funi never gave her the option to reprise the role?
She claims this, but unless we get corroboration from someone like Chris, there's no way to know what the truth is.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by B » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:00 am

Gohan has never really had a good English voice(at FUNimation; until Clinkenbeard). Others have summed it up pretty nicely; Nadolny's performance is one-note and one-dimensional. At her absolute best, which I suppose would be the last video game she did, she's passable.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:01 am

I enjoy Clinkenbeard, but still feel she's not as good as Saffron Henderson was.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:35 am

ABED wrote:
Wasn't there an interview where she said that not even she knows why Funi never gave her the option to reprise the role?
She claims this, but unless we get corroboration from someone like Chris, there's no way to know what the truth is.
Sadly, it's probably pretty safe to assume something like that did happen, even if not 100% true. Much as I love FUNimation, they haven't exactly been 'great' to their non-regular actors in recent years. Jeff Nimoy was pretty vocal about how badly his negotiations to come back for the Trigun movie were - they contacted him and told him to fly down to Texas on his own dime to do the role, and when he realized how little he'd be paid in comparison for the role back in the day, he wanted to try and debate it a bit. Next thing he heard was the new cast announcement. Supposedly a similar thing happened to Dorothy Elias-Fahn, but I never actually saw something from her on that one.

And honestly, the voice replacements are my biggest problem with Kai's dub. Not in that they were 'bad', but how it was handled. Say what you will about how good the old Gohan, Bulma, Oolong, and Chiaotzu/Puar were, they worked on the franchise since the very beginning of FUNi's in-house work. After all that time of work, they deserved at least a phone call saying 'Yeah, we're replacing you', not to just get booted without being told beforehand.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:39 am

ABED wrote:Not even sure what this means.
Listen to Colleen's performance that she did for "Teen Gohan" her vocal not only is it high-pitched but annoying and unsuitable for Gohan.
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Post by 90sDBZ » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:33 am

The only time I really thought she sounded noticeably off to the point where it bothered slightly me was at the very start of Z. Once Gohan had gotten into his training she sounded fine. For most of the redub she actually sounded great. Especially in season 3 when Krillin got horned by Frieza and Gohan screamed "No how could you!!!". I like Colleen's Gohan too but I think I do slightly prefer Nadolny because she does a better job of making him sound happy and innocent. Is it just me or does Colleen's Gohan sound either angry or upset most of the time?

And Nadolny's always done a great job on Gohan's anger and screaming. And I have to say that she made Gohan sound like a total badass at the Cell Games. I don't care if she sounded too old for an 11 year old just as others don't care that Nozawa still makes him sound really young in the Buu saga.

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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by thatdbzguy » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:44 pm

90sDBZ wrote:Is it just me or does Colleen's Gohan sound either angry or upset most of the time?
I definitely see what you mean, and I think that that's why I don't think Colleen is as great as some people make her out to be. Some people claim that Nadolny's performance for Gohan is too one-note, but that's exactly how I feel about Colleen's. No matter Gohan's mood, he always sounds like he's whining about something whenever Colleen plays him.

I know I'm in the minority here, and I know that ABED is going to reply to this questioning how I could possibly feel how I do about Colleen's Gohan, it's just that I don't see Colleen as some God-send compared to Nadolny.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by Wibbs » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:45 pm

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90sDBZ wrote:Is it just me or does Colleen's Gohan sound either angry or upset most of the time?
I definitely see what you mean, and I think that that's why I don't think Colleen is as great as some people make her out to be. Some people claim that Nadolny's performance for Gohan is too one-note, but that's exactly how I feel about Colleen's. No matter Gohan's mood, he always sounds like he's whining about something whenever Colleen plays him.

I know I'm in the minority here, and I know that ABED is going to reply to this questioning how I could possibly feel how I do about Colleen's Gohan, it's just that I don't see Colleen as some God-send compared to Nadolny.
I don't think she sounds angry, she comes off as an obnoxious little kid.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by ABED » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:37 pm

Listen to Colleen's performance that she did for "Teen Gohan" her vocal not only is it high-pitched but annoying and unsuitable for Gohan.
I have listened to it, and never had a problem with it. Nadolny is way more annoying to me. Colleen's voice isn't. Nadolny's Gohan and Goku laughs just bug me. It's like a cross between Woody Woodpecker and Krusty the Clown.

Even if I agreed that Colleen always sounded angry, I'll take that over Nadolny who is a terrible actress. She might have Gohan sound happier, but it sounds like someone trying to make their character sound happy.
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:01 pm

Video Games: Her Gohan was amazing. Perfection almost.

Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).

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Post by thatdbzguy » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:06 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Video Games: Her Gohan was amazing. Perfection almost.

Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:07 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Anime Series: She did horrible. Her voice killed my ears twice(Had to go to surgery).
No offense if you actually did have to have ear surgery at some point in your life...but I'm calling BS on it being Nadolny's voice that caused it. :think:
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Re: Was Stephanie Nadolny Really That Bad As Gohan?

Post by 90sDBZ » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:25 pm

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Listen to Colleen's performance that she did for "Teen Gohan" her vocal not only is it high-pitched but annoying and unsuitable for Gohan.
I have listened to it, and never had a problem with it. Nadolny is way more annoying to me. Colleen's voice isn't. Nadolny's Gohan and Goku laughs just bug me. It's like a cross between Woody Woodpecker and Krusty the Clown.

Even if I agreed that Colleen always sounded angry, I'll take that over Nadolny who is a terrible actress. She might have Gohan sound happier, but it sounds like someone trying to make their character sound happy.
I think her happy Gohan sounds totally natural. And I feel like it's a bit of a stretch calling her a terrible actress. At worst she's decent. She always made Gohan's anger sound totally believable. Going by most of your comments it sounds like your problem with her is the way her voice sounds rather than her acting ability.

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