Plothole Reconciliation Thread

[Kaboom]

I figure it can mean that the nucleus can revive him IF nothing else survives. It's more like an extra backup unit than anything else. If the nucleus is destroyed but other parts of him survive, then he can still regenerate from those other parts.

[Mystic Buu]

Kaboom's explanation is by now the most reasonable.It's probably a plot-hole but this explanation is good.

[Super Vegetto]

Cell made it clear, by his own words, that the one inside his head is responsible for his ability to regenerate (just like Piccolo later states [in the Buu Saga] that as long as his head is intact, he can regenerate).

So yes, it is a plot-hole.

And just to reinforce this a little further: If any of Cell's upper body survived Goku's KHH, why did Cell's "being" continue to exist on the bottom half only? Some of you are suggesting that some parts of Cell's upper half survived Goku's KHH, yet when Gohan destroys Cell entirely, no Cell comes back to life out of nowhere from some of those remaining cells.

In other words, if Cell was split in half and he regenerated the half that was missing, would you have two Cells? The answer is clearly no.

Chapter: 413 (DBZ 219), P10.1, P11.3-4, P12.1
Context: after regenerating from his self-destruction
Cell: “There’s a small clump inside my head…This makes up my nucleus…As long as that clump isn’t destroyed, my body can continue regenerating…When I self-destructed, my nucleus fortunately remained uninjured…

He says that only thing that neads to survive is his small clump inside his head that makes up nucleus. That is because he destroyed his whole body.

When Goku blow off his upper body, his lower half was still full of nucleus and those nucleus regenerated him..

It's not the same like when he complitly destroyed himself and when he also had half of his body untached...We can't compere him to Piccolo when it comes to his head because he can complity explode and regenerate from that small clump, while Piccolo would probably die the moment someone crushed his head...

[sekzee]

Please know what you are talking about before you start spouting nonsense.

[Super Vegetto]

Read it again...

[sekzee]

Cell made it clear, by his own words, that the one inside his head is responsible for his ability to regenerate (just like Piccolo later states [in the Buu Saga] that as long as his head is intact, he can regenerate).

So yes, it is a plot-hole.

And just to reinforce this a little further: If any of Cell's upper body survived Goku's KHH, why did Cell's "being" continue to exist on the bottom half only? Some of you are suggesting that some parts of Cell's upper half survived Goku's KHH, yet when Gohan destroys Cell entirely, no Cell comes back to life out of nowhere from some of those remaining cells.

In other words, if Cell was split in half and he regenerated the half that was missing, would you have two Cells? The answer is clearly no.

Chapter: 413 (DBZ 219), P10.1, P11.3-4, P12.1
Context: after regenerating from his self-destruction
Cell: “There’s a small clump inside my head…This makes up my nucleus…As long as that clump isn’t destroyed, my body can continue regenerating…When I self-destructed, my nucleus fortunately remained uninjured…

He says that only thing that neads to survive is his small clump inside his head that makes up nucleus. That is because he destroyed his whole body.

When Goku blow off his upper body, his lower half was still full of nucleus and those nucleus regenerated him..

It's not the same like when he complitly destroyed himself and when he also had half of his body untached...We can't compere him to Piccolo when it comes to his head because he can complity explode and regenerate from that small clump, while Piccolo would probably die the moment someone crushed his head...

The nucleus is the brain of a cell. When Cell is talking about his nucleus, he is essentially referring to his brain, or the main lump of cells that maintain his consciousness/being.

You are trying to suggest that he has multiple brains.

If we use the anime as reference, you would know the difference. Cell's upper half was completely annihilated by Goku's KHH, whereas Cell's own self-destruction was an outward explosion. In the anime, you see various amount of debris in the blast area, suggesting nothing was completely eradicated or erased, and that is why the clump inside his head survived.

[Super Vegetto]

Aren't nucleus part of something that contains DNA like Cell's lower half ? Shouldn't it regenerate itself if it has body and energy that provides it ?

[Kaboom]

Please know what you are talking about before you start spouting nonsense.

Please don't make posts like this.

[sekzee]

Aren't nucleus part of something that contains DNA like Cell's lower half ? Shouldn't it regenerate itself if it has body and energy that provides it ?

Please refer to what I posted.

[sekzee]

Please know what you are talking about before you start spouting nonsense.

Please don't make posts like this.

I will most certainly make an effort.

[Dayspring]

The nucleus is only in his brain BECAUSE he self-destructed. Prior to that it was not. The idea is that it regenerates based on necessity. Upper half of the body is gone? Then regenerate from where the wound starts, like connecting missing puzzle pieces. Entire body is gone? Then start from scratch with the most important batch of cells; the brain. Most likely, the nucleus was near his core when he first achieved perfect form. Afterward, it was near his brain simply because that's what it regenerated first.

[Hearts]

Or we can start by doing a requirement list for regeneration.

1. A part where Cells organs lies has to be intact, this means body and head, Cell can regeneration from any major part, not including limbs.
2. If body and head are destroyed and there are no big body parts left, he has a nucleus inside his head that can fully revive him.

As long as the Nucleus isnt gone, he can always revive, however if only the head is gone and his cells from major body part is left then he has sufficient energy to regenerate missing parts including nucleus.

[rereboy]

Claim: Cell regenerating after Goku had fired his Kamehameha at him from point blank range, destroying his arms, wings and head is a plothole.
Reasoning: Cell later stated, he could regenerate, as long as his nucleus inside his head remained intact, yet Goku destroyed his head, therefore making it impossible for him to regenerate.

Answer: Destroying Cell's head does not mean his nucleus has been destroyed, otherwise Cell shouldn't have come back from his self-destruction either. Claiming that his nucleus was destroyed just because his head was is a fallacy.

If the nucleus was always inside of Cell's head, and if Goku didn't manage to destroy his nucleus when he destroyed his head, Cell should have regenerated from his nucleus (that should be somewhere on the ground) and not from his lower body. So I understand what you are saying, but that doesn't properly explain the situation. It requires more to properly explain it.

Cell never said he couldn't regenerate from half of his body even if his nucleous was destroyed. What he meant was that even if his body is seemingly destroyed, if his nucleous is still intact, he will regenerate. The way Cell phrased it may suggest that his nucleous has to be there, yes, but the truth is, he never said he couldn't regenerate otherwise.

I think this is the most likely explanation.

[hleV]

I can't help but wonder what would happen if Cell was cut, say, in half. Would he regenerate from the upper half, the lower half, or from both (thus there being 2 Cells).

[RandomGuy96]

I presume the halves would just reconnect, like Buu, who can regenerate from next to nothing and violate the conservation of matter.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I presume the halves would just reconnect, like Buu, who can regenerate from next to nothing and violate the conservation of matter.

But Namekians (and by extension, Cell) don't regenerate like that, they regrow their missing parts like lizards.

[dbgtFO]

Claim: Cell regenerating after Goku had fired his Kamehameha at him from point blank range, destroying his arms, wings and head is a plothole.
Reasoning: Cell later stated, he could regenerate, as long as his nucleus inside his head remained intact, yet Goku destroyed his head, therefore making it impossible for him to regenerate.

Answer: Destroying Cell's head does not mean his nucleus has been destroyed, otherwise Cell shouldn't have come back from his self-destruction either. Claiming that his nucleus was destroyed just because his head was is a fallacy.

If the nucleus was always inside of Cell's head, and if Goku didn't manage to destroy his nucleus when he destroyed his head, Cell should have regenerated from his nucleus (that should be somewhere on the ground) and not from his lower body. So I understand what you are saying, but that doesn't properly explain the situation. It requires more to properly explain it.

You're right of course.
Later in this thread I did come up with my own fan-explanations of what happened, but here I was only focused on addressing the main argument of the so called plothole.

[RandomGuy96]

Cell isn't like the Namekians. His regeneration is obviously quite different, even if the ability first originates from them.

[Kamiccolo9]

I can't help but wonder what would happen if Cell was cut, say, in half. Would he regenerate from the upper half, the lower half, or from both (thus there being 2 Cells).

I'd imagine he'd just pull himself together, based off Piccolo's big regeneration in the Buu Arc, since there aren't multiple Piccolo's running around. Granted, Cell isn't Piccolo, so we can't really be sure.

[hleV]

Well what about if Cell gets cut in half and his upper half is destroyed except for the nucleous in his head? Would his nucleous only regenerate the upper half and then merge with the lower one? We know that Cell's nucleous is able to regenerate the whole body, but we also know that his lower half is able to regenerate the upper half. This is just fucked up.