Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis

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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis

Post by rereboy » Thu May 15, 2014 5:28 pm

DNA wrote:
rereboy wrote:He relishes destruction and lacks empathy. He seems like a sadistic psychopath with a god complex due to his natural power(...)
Wasn't Tullece the same?
Well, Tullece seemed a lot less extreme and overall a lot more intelectual. Technically, he can still be classified as a sadistic psychopath but I think that the key to Broly is the god complex. Broly acted on whims, like nothing mattered, like nothing could ever hurt him, like he was convinced of his invulnerability and that everything and everyone was a complete joke and mere dust for him to step on. Like he actually was a god who enjoyed wrecking stuff, so much so that he didn't even think about anything besides breaking stuff and Goku, who actually seemed to be the only thing that gave Broly some thought, like his very existence was a statement agaisnt his invincibility and somehow Broly knew that instinctively and that fact annoyed him immensely.

Tullece had nowhere near that "confidence".

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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis

Post by DNA » Sun May 18, 2014 7:07 pm

Once again, the main difference between Broli and Tullece would be sheer power and repressed emotion. Of course Tullece wasn't has confident, he was very powerful, more so than Vegeta at the time, but still nowhere near Broli's power. Broli is confident because he can be, he overpowers every single warrior and then some. And, after so much time restrained, he is simply enjoying himself, because he can. I honestly see nothing more than a Saiyan with the means to enact everything a Saiyan dreams of, with no consequences.

Try this, imagine what you would do if there were no consequences, and I mean none. No moral obligation, no laws to stop you, no one could stop you from doing what you wanted. Or better yet, go watch some Day of Z gameplay videos, they exemplify pretty much what zero consequence does to the human brain.

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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis

Post by rereboy » Mon May 19, 2014 11:22 am

We saw Broly acting that way before he was ever restrained. In the scene where he takes out his father's eye, he's acting just like he acts after managing to break free. That suggests that he doesn't act that way simply because of the time he spent restrained, but rather its just how he is when he starts going.

Also, we have seen other characters that are way stronger than any foreseeable opposition and they don't act like Broly. Being very powerful doesn't explain this behavior. Especially since Broly wasn't THAT much stronger than Goku and the others since Goku managed to defeat him without SSJ2.

For example, the gap in power between Broly and the gang is much shorter than the one between Freeza and the Saiyans in general. Despite this, Freeza was shown being actually cautious about dangers to his position. Broly is practically the opposite... He simply doesn't care, he acts like it would be impossible for anyone to resist. In my opinion, that's either because he literally doesn't care about anything else besides the destruction, and so he doesn't even really think about anything else, or its because he has a sort of god complex that makes him actually "blind" to dangers and caution and so he just does as he pleases without regard for anything else besides the destruction.

Tullece has a saiyan nature, but caution, the consciousness of danger and strategy are not lost on him (unlike Broly), nor does he relish mindless destruction the way Broly does. Like most Saiyans, with him, destruction usually has a point, a motivation behind it, beyond the destruction itself.

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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis

Post by DNA » Tue May 20, 2014 6:42 pm

rereboy wrote:We saw Broly acting that way before he was ever restrained. In the scene where he takes out his father's eye, he's acting just like he acts after managing to break free. That suggests that he doesn't act that way simply because of the time he spent restrained, but rather its just how he is when he starts going.
In his defence, his father is a gigantic dickbag. But yes, he did look quite insane during that time. Yet, I'm still chalking it up to his father's conditioning and general dickbaggery.
rereboy wrote:Also, we have seen other characters that are way stronger than any foreseeable opposition and they don't act like Broly. Being very powerful doesn't explain this behavior.
Different circumstances, different upbringing, different races. I never said that power alone explained the behaviour.
rereboy wrote:Especially since Broly wasn't THAT much stronger than Goku and the others since Goku managed to defeat him without SSJ2.
Without being Super Saiyan 2 but after absorbing the power of three other Super Saiyans and a Super Namekian.
rereboy wrote:For example, the gap in power between Broly and the gang is much shorter than the one between Freeza and the Saiyans in general. Despite this, Freeza was shown being actually cautious about dangers to his position. Broly is practically the opposite... He simply doesn't care, he acts like it would be impossible for anyone to resist.
You're comparing a being from a completely different species, with a completely different upbringing in a completely different society. Of course they will act different despite power. Freeza's clan are land sharks and rulers, Saiyans are war mongers. You cannot really compare the two.
rereboy wrote:In my opinion, that's either because he literally doesn't care about anything else besides the destruction, and so he doesn't even really think about anything else, or its because he has a sort of god complex that makes him actually "blind" to dangers and caution and so he just does as he pleases without regard for anything else besides the destruction.
Yup, he probably does indeed have a god complex, once again remember that his dad spent his whole life praising his birth right as the Legendary Super Saiyan, the deity of their species, the most powerful, the most ruthless, the most bloodthirsty. Again, conditioning from his father probably was at play here.
rereboy wrote:Tullece has a saiyan nature, but caution, the consciousness of danger and strategy are not lost on him (unlike Broly), nor does he relish mindless destruction the way Broly does. Like most Saiyans, with him, destruction usually has a point, a motivation behind it, beyond the destruction itself.
Different people, different wants and needs. I'm just arguing that the methods are the same, Tullece had a different agenda but he was pretty ruthless and very powerful, he didn't really seem bothered by letting an entire planet rot in order to achieve his goal. Broli didn't really have an agenda, his father did, and he was sick and tired of his father. So he was pretty much just playing it by ear. I'm sure he would craft some plan for something after that whole ordeal, if he had time, instead of being gut shot and encased in ice for seven freaking years.

Or not, maybe between his raw power and the words of his father still echoing in his mind he would do nothing more than show the universe just how powerful he truly is. Again, this is a guy who spent his whole life being used as a weapon, he doesn't really have any goals. Although... I guess he did kinda have a goal after he woke up from the ice coma, surpass the only Saiyan that ever beat him, you know, just like Vegeta.

All in all, I'm just justifying his actions in a psychological kind of view, different people/characters will have different personalities, and this is a traumatized and abused man who has known nothing but violence his whole life. Maybe it's just me looking to deeply into this but I do think that Broli's story is actually very dramatic and you can only truly see it by reading between the lines, and I very much doubt that any of it was done on purpose.

His he the way he is because the legend says so? Or is it the knowledge of the legend that makes him so?

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Re: Broly: A Psychological Diagnosis

Post by IgnorantFuniFan » Wed May 21, 2014 1:43 pm

Actually, for all we know, the sadistic behavior that legendary super saiyan broly exhibits may just be a mental side-effect of the transformation. In base, broly looks kinda like a stoner (excuse my snarkiness) and no one even suspects that he is the legend, so we may never know...
Let's just all get along and beat each other up

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