What Future Trunks didn't do

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:11 am

You have forgot something very important Original poster, about the Trunks teleporting to King Kai theory: He would have to have met King Kai once before to tell his ki from someone else.

Then you throw in Time and Space. Meeting King Kai in the good timeline doesn't mean he can teleport to King Kai in the bad timeline-He didn't meet the King Kai in the bad timeline after all.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:42 pm

No, I didn't forget that. I mentioned it. And King Kai's ki is King Kai's ki.

Hitiro · Post by **Hitiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:00 pm

Cetra wrote:No, I didn't forget that. I mentioned it. And King Kai's ki is King Kai's ki.

It's possible his Ki is different. In Trunks' timeline the Androids are weaker apparently. There are discrepancies through the timelines. Gohan not being able to go into a rage strong enough to kill both Androids too. Or Gohan not being able to get as strong as he was in the Cell Games despite having survived for many many years fighting against the androids. You would have thought he would have gotten stronger during those years. Especially if he has the same potential the current timelines Gohan has.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:13 pm

Hitiro wrote:It's possible his Ki is different.

Just because the scale is higher or less does not mean the signature is not the same. It is still the entity "King Kai" whether Alternate or not. Cell had Freezer's ki and he was not even Freezer (so not the same entity but at least had the same ki because of his cells) and he was not even from that timeline, still they noticed him as Freezer.

Hitiro · Post by **Hitiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:26 pm

Cetra wrote:
Hitiro wrote:It's possible his Ki is different.
Just because the scale is higher or less does not mean the signature is not the same. It is still the entity "King Kai" whether Alternate or not. Cell had Freezer's ki and he was not even Freezer and he was not even from that timeline, still they noticed him as Freezer.

I think in the manga its said that the Ki's of the character Cell has were similar but different. I'll have to go back and check but I believe the characters say there is something off about the Ki's they are sensing. There are multiple things that are different with Trunks' timeline so Ki signature could also be different. Like Gero dying and there being other androids. It isn't impossible to think that Ki signatures may be different. Also I'm sure that Trunks never even sensed the Kaio's Ki. So he can't know of it unless Goku takes him to Kaio while teaching him so he can understand the Kaio's Ki.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:27 pm

Hitiro wrote:Also I'm sure that Trunks never even sensed the Kaio's Ki. So he can't know of it unless Goku takes him to Kaio while teaching him so he can understand the Kaio's Ki.

I already mentioned that as possibility. And Cell being a bit different is the result of Cell being Cell, not him being an alternate Freezer. And considering you are rght for a moment, they still noticed him as Freezer which means, even if Alternate King Kai has a slight difference he could be noticed by Trunks just as the heroes were able to notice a being like another being of their own time.

Hitiro · Post by **Hitiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:24 pm

Cetra wrote:
Hitiro wrote:Also I'm sure that Trunks never even sensed the Kaio's Ki. So he can't know of it unless Goku takes him to Kaio while teaching him so he can understand the Kaio's Ki.
I already mentioned that as possibility. And Cell being a bit different is the result of Cell being Cell, not him being an alternate Freezer. And considering you are rght for a moment, they still noticed him as Freezer which means, even if Alternate King Kai has a slight difference he could be noticed by Trunks just as the heroes were able to notice a being like another being of their own time.

Maybe, but again we don't know how different stuff is in Trunks' timeline. There have been stark differences here and there. Can't say it isn't a possibility that Kaio's Ki is different enough or not.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:49 pm

If Goku and the others wanted to be wish back, they would have been wish back in Trunks timeline by now. They have been dead for over a decade, they most likely thought the Earth can move on without them. It's unlikely Vegeta can't be brought back to life since he most likely went to Hell and was likely reincarnated.

Darkron2151 · Post by **Darkron2151** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:57 pm

Why can't Trunks just use the Dragon Balls from New Planet Namek in his timeline? They did at the end of the Buu Saga against Kid Buu, so all he has to do is build a space ship with his mother (which should be easier than building a time machine), explain his story and his relationship with Goku, Gohan and the others to the Namekians and the situation with the cyborgs, and they would probably agree. Well, hopefully, since they don't believe in bringing back the dead and all.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:09 pm

I mentioned those Dragon Balls. The thing is he does not know where Namek is, so he needs King Kai's help anyway. On the other hand, he could also have known that from Goku after he knew it, so both teleporting and the information where New Namek is could be gotten from him.

Hitiro · Post by **Hitiro** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:21 pm

Cetra wrote:I mentioned those Dragon Balls. The thing is he does not know where Namek is, so he needs King Kai's help anyway. On the other hand, he could also have known that from Goku after he knew it, so both teleporting and the information where New Namek is could be gotten from him.

Well, Goku doesn't know "exactly" where New Namek is. It would just be a feeling. He couldn't give him a pinpoint location. Just a general direction and even the general direction would be incredibly precise. Unless he is using the teleportation technique. If it's a ship then sensing Ki isn't going to help when putting in ship coordinates. He'd have to know the exact location.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:28 pm

Hitiro wrote:
Cetra wrote:I mentioned those Dragon Balls. The thing is he does not know where Namek is, so he needs King Kai's help anyway. On the other hand, he could also have known that from Goku after he knew it, so both teleporting and the information where New Namek is could be gotten from him.
Well, Goku doesn't know "exactly" where New Namek is. It would just be a feeling. He couldn't give him a pinpoint location. Just a general direction and even the general direction would be incredibly precise. Unless he is using the teleportation technique. If it's a ship then sensing Ki isn't going to help when putting in ship coordinates. He'd have to know the exact location.

That is why I mentioned many possibilities. If it is really just that he needs to visit it with Trunks then why not.

Darkron2151 · Post by **Darkron2151** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:49 pm

But didn't Bulma's father make a spaceship with the coordinates set for Namek? That's how Goku got there initially when he didn't have IT. If so, then they must still have the coordinates, and nothing states that New Namek is in an entirely different location than Old Namek. Since it's a replacement, it's probably in the same place it was before.

Darkprince410 · Post by **Darkprince410** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:02 am

Darkron2151 wrote:But didn't Bulma's father make a spaceship with the coordinates set for Namek? That's how Goku got there initially when he didn't have IT. If so, then they must still have the coordinates, and nothing states that New Namek is in an entirely different location than Old Namek. Since it's a replacement, it's probably in the same place it was before.

Why would it be in the same location? It's not that it was a new planet created to replace the original Namek, so much as it was an existing planet that the Dragonballs teleported them to. There's nothing saying that the new planet is anywhere near where normal Namek was. Kaiou actually took a bit to find it, and if it were the exact same place as the original, he'd be able to find it instantly.

Darkron2151 · Post by **Darkron2151** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:45 pm

Why would it be in the same location? It's not that it was a new planet created to replace the original Namek, so much as it was an existing planet that the Dragonballs teleported them to. There's nothing saying that the new planet is anywhere near where normal Namek was. Kaiou actually took a bit to find it, and if it were the exact same place as the original, he'd be able to find it instantly.

Oh yeah!!! I forgot that Kaiō-sama found it originally because I remember he found a planet with an atmosphere similar to Namek. For a second, I thought they asked Porunga to create an entirely new planet. It's been a while since I last read that part. XD

But here's an interesting theory. Could Bulma possibly create a Dragon Radar with a strong enough signal to track the Namekian Dragon Balls all the way from Earth to New Namek? If so, the Trunks just follows the trail and finds New Namek.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:59 pm

As I mention before, if they wanted to be wish back then won't they done it by now. Goku in Other World could have contact New Namek then wish themselves back to life. I know the real reason would be because of plot reasons, but in a Universe stand point of view that they would be brought back to life by now.

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