Why did Toriyama bother writing Dragon Ball Z?

[Valerius Dover]

Nowadays, the series is constantly made fun of and ripped apart, even by the fans, thanks to Z screwing up so many things.

Really? I don't see Z getting "ripped" apart or ridiculed anywhere, I would love you to show some examples of what you claim.

You can't honestly tell me that you never once see any sort of criticism towards DBZ in all of the websites you've browsed.

That's not to say there isn't ANY criticism. But I haven't really seen anything beyond the occasional joke. I have yet to see anyone actually say that the MANGA has severe issues with plot. Sure, there's the people who hate on the anime filler, and even more people who hate on the pre-Kai dub. I just haven't seen any actual criticism of Toriyama's work as is. What exactly is so poor about the Cell arc, I wonder? My only complaint is that the Androids should've had a larger role. That still isn't nearly enough to bring down my enjoyment as a whole. It's the same mindset that helps me sit through and enjoy the dub.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Nowadays, the series is constantly made fun of and ripped apart, even by the fans, thanks to Z screwing up so many things.

Really? I don't see Z getting "ripped" apart or ridiculed anywhere, I would love you to show some examples of what you claim.

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You can't honestly tell me that you never once see any sort of criticism towards DBZ in all of the websites you've browsed.

Well, the only DB related website I browse is Kanzenshuu and whilst folks do have justifiable criticisms, it isn't anything like your are suggesting "making fun of", "ripping apart".

[superfunk]

If the z section of the manga didn't exist, this thread wouldn't even exist.

[Luso Saiyan]

Nowadays, the series is constantly made fun of and ripped apart, even by the fans, thanks to Z screwing up so many things.

Really? I don't see Z getting "ripped" apart or ridiculed anywhere, I would love you to show some examples of what you claim.

You can't honestly tell me that you never once see any sort of criticism towards DBZ in all of the websites you've browsed.

The burden is on you to prove that "the series is constantly made fun of and ripped apart". And "once" is not the same as "constantly".

[Kamiccolo9]

The burden is on you to prove that "the series is constantly made fun of and ripped apart". And "once" is not the same as "constantly".

Yeah, good luck with that. He'll ignore this just like he does every other post that he can't steal someone else's already made answer for.

[dbzfan7]

Isn't it obvious

Highly successful manga and anime series brings it in.

[TheAldella]

I'd just like to point out that I saw some serious bashing of Dragon Ball Z just yesterday in the comments sections of the Battle of Gods movie promos

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

hing on the internet. Look at me. I fucking hate Attack On Titan and One Piece. Both are huge and very popular. What's the issue with Dbz getting criticism?

Nothing. but to me saying something sucks is not criticism. Most people that bash DBZ in favour of their own anime they obsess over usually hate on it without any real depiction of what count for flaws and how it could have been handled better. They just say its sucks or through arbitary ad hominims to defame the series without any solid background. Theres a lot of things that get on my nerves with DBZ's story telling but it means nothing unless you can actually identify what it is intellectually.

I'd just like to point out that I saw some serious bashing of Dragon Ball Z just yesterday in the comments sections of the Battle of Gods movie promos

lol. There are a lot of credible reasons to hate that movie. Its not really bashing to my definition, just disappointment and frustration from its failure to live up to how incomprehensibly overrated it is. Even compared to the other movies.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

Nowadays, the series is constantly made fun of and ripped apart, even by the fans, thanks to Z screwing up so many things.

Really? I don't see Z getting "ripped" apart or ridiculed anywhere, I would love you to show some examples of what you claim.

You can't honestly tell me that you never once see any sort of criticism towards DBZ in all of the websites you've browsed.

Narutards don't count.

[VegettoEX]

Narutards don't count.

This is not an appropriate contribution to any discussion. Further posts like this will result in a formal strike lodged against your account.

[TheGmGoken]

hing on the internet. Look at me. I fucking hate Attack On Titan and One Piece. Both are huge and very popular. What's the issue with Dbz getting criticism?

Nothing. but to me saying something sucks is not criticism. Most people that bash DBZ in favour of their own anime they obsess over usually hate on it without any real depiction of what count for flaws and how it could have been handled better. They just say its sucks or through arbitary ad hominims to defame the series without any solid background. Theres a lot of things that get on my nerves with DBZ's story telling but it means nothing unless you can actually identify what it is intellectually.

I'd just like to point out that I saw some serious bashing of Dragon Ball Z just yesterday in the comments sections of the Battle of Gods movie promos

lol. There are a lot of credible reasons to hate that movie. Its not really bashing to my definition, just disappointment and frustration from its failure to live up to how incomprehensibly overrated it is. Even compared to the other movies.

Oh trust me. I know the difference between bashing and critism. Very rarely you see critism for Dbz. I see bashing mostly when someone caught in the moment of an epic anime scene but later say they like Dbz just not as much as this.

Narutards don't count.

I'm a Narutard. Prefer Dbz but still a Naruto fan

[sintzu]

I'm a Narutard. Prefer Dbz but still a Naruto fan

A Narutard is someone who only likes Naruto so you don't count as one

[TheGmGoken]

I'm a Narutard. Prefer Dbz but still a Naruto fan

A Narutard is someone who only likes Naruto so you don't count as one

Just like everything there's multiple definitions. I fit 3 of them. There's over 13. But let's get back on topic.

[thatdbzguy]

Nothing. but to me saying something sucks is not criticism. Most people that bash DBZ in favour of their own anime they obsess over usually hate on it without any real depiction of what count for flaws and how it could have been handled better. They just say its sucks or through arbitary ad hominims to defame the series without any solid background. Theres a lot of things that get on my nerves with DBZ's story telling but it means nothing unless you can actually identify what it is intellectually.

I've seen plenty of people properly criticize DBZ. I've seen people criticize the one-dimensional characters, repetitive plot, and concepts that were poorly executed. Don't believe me? Just Google these things. You'll see for yourself.

[Ajay]

Save us the trouble and provide some sources, eh? That'd be cool. Thanks!

[Kid Buu]

He continued to make the Saiyan Arc because he saw Superman and was like "damn, I wanna write a story like that!"

Same reason why he made the Cell Arc, except this time he watched Terminator.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Nothing. but to me saying something sucks is not criticism. Most people that bash DBZ in favour of their own anime they obsess over usually hate on it without any real depiction of what count for flaws and how it could have been handled better. They just say its sucks or through arbitary ad hominims to defame the series without any solid background. Theres a lot of things that get on my nerves with DBZ's story telling but it means nothing unless you can actually identify what it is intellectually.

I've seen plenty of people properly criticize DBZ. I've seen people criticize the one-dimensional characters, repetitive plot, and concepts that were poorly executed. Don't believe me? Just Google these things. You'll see for yourself.

I'm yet to see " made fun of and ripped apart even by fans" examples from you.And pretty much what Luso Saiyan said, it's your thread, you have to do the leg work so to speak.

[TheAldella]

There are a lot of credible reasons to hate that movie. Its not really bashing to my definition, just disappointment and frustration from its failure to live up to how incomprehensibly overrated it is. Even compared to the other movies.

They weren't talking about hating the movie. They were talking about hating Dragon Ball Z itself

[trick007z]

He continued to make the Saiyan Arc because he saw Superman and was like "damn, I wanna write a story like that!"

Same reason why he made the Cell Arc, except this time he watched Terminator.

And don't forget he watched Cinderella and got the idea for the buu arc.
And the first arc was Journey to the West..

I'm starting to notice a pattern.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Save us the trouble and provide some sources, eh? That'd be cool. Thanks!

Yeah, I agree with this. I have never ever, ever heard of someone badmouthed DBZ. thatdbzguy, it seems to me that you are the only one to claim this. I really think that at this point you are gonna have to cite some sources to back up your claims from now on. It will only save you from embarrassment. 99.9% of your posts has been heavily criticizing Dragon Ball Z, despite, ironically, your username proving otherwise.