Whis' gender?

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Re: Whis' gender?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:51 am

I never noticed that Toriyama gave population numbers for the Shin-jin. Damn, powerful races in Dragon Ball tend to be very few in number, don't they? 

Freeza-clan: 4 that we know of... there's probably a few more, but not many. They're probably just that family, going by Toriyama.

Saiyans: 3,000-6,000, i.e. "a few thousand" (pre-Freeza's bad mood)

Nameks: 110

Shin-jin: 80 

Then there are 6,000,000,000 Earthlings according to Neko Majin. Hah.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure West Kaioshin's bio in D7 says she's "the one Kaioshin that appears female"... or something like that.

The question is: if Kaioshin don't have gender, why does "she" have breasts?
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Whis' gender?

Post by Low Tone G » Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:22 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:I never noticed that Toriyama gave population numbers for the Shin-jin. Damn, powerful races in Dragon Ball tend to be very few in number, don't they? 

Freeza-clan: 4 that we know of... there's probably a few more, but not many. They're probably just that family, going by Toriyama.

Saiyans: 3,000-6,000, i.e. "a few thousand" (pre-Freeza's bad mood)

Nameks: 110

Shin-jin: 80 

Then there are 6,000,000,000 Earthlings according to Neko Majin. Hah.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure West Kaioshin's bio in D7 says she's "the one Kaioshin that appears female"... or something like that.


The question is: if Kaioshin don't have gender, why does "she" have breasts?
After having Toriyama saying that thee are only 3 Kaioshins, who work in shifts, maybe the female-like Kaioshin is erased. Is she in the manga too?
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Re: Whis' gender?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 24, 2014 7:25 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Anyway, I'm pretty sure West Kaioshin's bio in D7 says she's "the one Kaioshin that appears female"... or something like that.
D7 says that she is "the only Kaioshin that is a female". It's C4 that changes it into "the only Kaioshin who appears female".
RandomGuy96 wrote:The question is: if Kaioshin don't have gender, why does "she" have breasts?
:lol:

In all seriousness, it seems that the Shin-jin look like males or females, but don't have genitals to reproduce. (Except Rou Kaioshin :lol: )
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Re: Whis' gender?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Sep 24, 2014 10:24 am

Low Tone G wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:I never noticed that Toriyama gave population numbers for the Shin-jin. Damn, powerful races in Dragon Ball tend to be very few in number, don't they? 

Freeza-clan: 4 that we know of... there's probably a few more, but not many. They're probably just that family, going by Toriyama.

Saiyans: 3,000-6,000, i.e. "a few thousand" (pre-Freeza's bad mood)

Nameks: 110

Shin-jin: 80 

Then there are 6,000,000,000 Earthlings according to Neko Majin. Hah.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure West Kaioshin's bio in D7 says she's "the one Kaioshin that appears female"... or something like that.


The question is: if Kaioshin don't have gender, why does "she" have breasts?
After having Toriyama saying that thee are only 3 Kaioshins, who work in shifts, maybe the female-like Kaioshin is erased. Is she in the manga too?
Kinda. The West Kaioshin is mentioned to exist in the manga, but we don't see what West Kaioshin looks like. Toriyama's comments mean nothing to me at this point; they contradict the manga, and even he admitted he was basically just throwing shit out there, and that some of it was probably gonna be wrong.

D7 says that she is "the only Kaioshin that is a female". It's C4 that changes it into "the only Kaioshin who appears female".

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:lol:

In all seriousness, it seems that the Shin-jin look like males or females, but don't have genitals to reproduce. (Except Rou Kaioshin :lol: )
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Whis' gender?

Post by Pantalones » Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:01 am

Jokes aside, if they were truly asexual or sexless why was he such a pervert?

He was reading some ecchi magazine and even accepted gokus bribe (bulma)
Being "neither male or female" and hatching from a fruit rather than reproducing sexually doesn't necessarily mean you can't be a perv... just that you can't really act on that perviness in the same way a human can (beyond things like groping and such, I guess), assuming that Shinjin have no genitals whatsoever.

Plus, he's fused with that witch, and maybe *she* was a perv.

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