What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:02 am

Okay, let me put it this way.

Cell shows up and is looking for the androids (which in my other comment were destroyed).
The Z fighters would look into the strange things going on (Cell attacking city's). They would fight Cell with no luck, just like the battle with 17 and 18.
Some if not all would die (doesn't really matter), and Cell would continue his search for 17 and 18 (which have been destroyed).
Eventually Goku would get better, only to find his friends dead and Cell on a rampage. Goku knowing that Cell is too strong for him, would go to the Time chamber
to train and become strong enough to stop Cell. Unlike 17 and 18, Cell wouldn't look for Goku, he would be looking for 17 and 18 giving Goku all the time he needs.

All Goku needs to do is get to Super Vegeta's level, and without 17 and 18 Cell can't reach his perfect form and will be defeated by Goku.
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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:16 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Okay, let me put it this way.

Cell shows up and is looking for the androids (which in my other comment were destroyed).
The Z fighters would look into the strange things going on (Cell attacking city's). They would fight Cell with no luck, just like the battle with 17 and 18.
Some if not all would die (doesn't really matter), and Cell would continue his search for 17 and 18 (which have been destroyed).
Eventually Goku would get better, only to find his friends dead and Cell on a rampage. Goku knowing that Cell is too strong for him, would go to the Time chamber
to train and become strong enough to stop Cell. Unlike 17 and 18, Cell wouldn't look for Goku, he would be looking for 17 and 18 giving Goku all the time he needs.

All Goku needs to do is get to Super Vegeta's level, and without 17 and 18 Cell can't reach his perfect form and will be defeated by Goku.
By that time, Cell would have already learned that the androids were destroyed (or so he thinks), and would have destroyed the planet out of spite.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:22 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Okay, let me put it this way.

Cell shows up and is looking for the androids (which in my other comment were destroyed).
The Z fighters would look into the strange things going on (Cell attacking city's). They would fight Cell with no luck, just like the battle with 17 and 18.
Some if not all would die (doesn't really matter), and Cell would continue his search for 17 and 18 (which have been destroyed).
Eventually Goku would get better, only to find his friends dead and Cell on a rampage. Goku knowing that Cell is too strong for him, would go to the Time chamber
to train and become strong enough to stop Cell. Unlike 17 and 18, Cell wouldn't look for Goku, he would be looking for 17 and 18 giving Goku all the time he needs.

All Goku needs to do is get to Super Vegeta's level, and without 17 and 18 Cell can't reach his perfect form and will be defeated by Goku.
By that time, Cell would have already learned that the androids were destroyed (or so he thinks), and would have destroyed the planet out of spite.
Then why didn't he do that in Trunks' timeline?
In Trunks' timeline, Cell was searching for nearly two decades before Trunks told him he destroyed them.
I think Goku would have the time.
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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:27 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Okay, let me put it this way.

Cell shows up and is looking for the androids (which in my other comment were destroyed).
The Z fighters would look into the strange things going on (Cell attacking city's). They would fight Cell with no luck, just like the battle with 17 and 18.
Some if not all would die (doesn't really matter), and Cell would continue his search for 17 and 18 (which have been destroyed).
Eventually Goku would get better, only to find his friends dead and Cell on a rampage. Goku knowing that Cell is too strong for him, would go to the Time chamber
to train and become strong enough to stop Cell. Unlike 17 and 18, Cell wouldn't look for Goku, he would be looking for 17 and 18 giving Goku all the time he needs.

All Goku needs to do is get to Super Vegeta's level, and without 17 and 18 Cell can't reach his perfect form and will be defeated by Goku.
By that time, Cell would have already learned that the androids were destroyed (or so he thinks), and would have destroyed the planet out of spite.
Then why didn't he do that in Trunks' timeline?
In Trunks' timeline, Cell was searching for nearly two decades before Trunks told him he destroyed them.
I think Goku would have the time.
Because the heroes would tell him here. He'd cause trouble in a city and they'd all have to confront him. From there one of them would probably blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids. He'd have no reason to stay in this timeline anymore, and would either kill everything or leave. Or kill everything and THEN leave.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:37 am

RandomGuy96 wrote: Because the heroes would tell him here. He'd cause trouble in a city and they'd all have to confront him. From there one of them would probably blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids. He'd have no reason to stay in this timeline anymore, and would either kill everything or leave. Or kill everything and THEN leave.
That could happen,yes.
But that all depends if they " blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids". Cell could kill them before they could say a thing.
Also, this time who knows if Cell would tell them that he's also an android looking for 17 and 18. Leaving no reason for them to " blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids".
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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:40 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote: Because the heroes would tell him here. He'd cause trouble in a city and they'd all have to confront him. From there one of them would probably blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids. He'd have no reason to stay in this timeline anymore, and would either kill everything or leave. Or kill everything and THEN leave.
That could happen,yes.
But that all depends if they " blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids". Cell could kill them before they could say a thing.
Also, this time who knows if Cell would tell them that he's also an android looking for 17 and 18. Leaving no reason for them to " blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids".
He bragged to Piccolo when he was sure he had the upper hand. There's no reason he wouldn't do that here too.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:53 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote: Because the heroes would tell him here. He'd cause trouble in a city and they'd all have to confront him. From there one of them would probably blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids. He'd have no reason to stay in this timeline anymore, and would either kill everything or leave. Or kill everything and THEN leave.
That could happen,yes.
But that all depends if they " blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids". Cell could kill them before they could say a thing.
Also, this time who knows if Cell would tell them that he's also an android looking for 17 and 18. Leaving no reason for them to " blurt out that Piccolo and Vegeta destroyed the androids".
He bragged to Piccolo when he was sure he had the upper hand. There's no reason he wouldn't do that here too.
In a one on one, yes.
But with a group of them, I would think Cell would be more focused on mowing them all down(just in case they came up with something clever). Even then,
it's up to the last man standing to ask the question. That's if he asks or even care's anymore, seeing all his friends dead around him, he would be more focused on how he's going to get out of this one alive.
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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:59 am

In a one on one, yes.
But with a group of them, I would think Cell would be more focused on mowing them all down(just in case they came up with something clever). Even then,
it's up to the last man standing to ask the question. That's if he asks or even care's anymore, seeing all his friends dead around him, he would be more focused on how he's going to get out of this one alive.
He has data on how strong they're supposed to be, so he wouldn't be worried about any of them. All any of them would have to do is ask "who are you?" and he'd probably tell them. Then they'll tell him that they destroyed the androids. I find it hard to believe that none of them would ask that question at any point in this interaction. He'll happily talk your ear off about it if he thinks he has the upper hand, which he will in this situation, where only Vegeta can fight him, and no one can beat him.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:05 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:
In a one on one, yes.
But with a group of them, I would think Cell would be more focused on mowing them all down(just in case they came up with something clever). Even then,
it's up to the last man standing to ask the question. That's if he asks or even care's anymore, seeing all his friends dead around him, he would be more focused on how he's going to get out of this one alive.
He has data on how strong they're supposed to be, so he wouldn't be worried about any of them. All any of them would have to do is ask "who are you?" and he'd probably tell them. Then they'll tell him that they destroyed the androids. I find it hard to believe that none of them would ask that question at any point in this interaction. He'll happily talk your ear off about it if he thinks he has the upper hand, which he will in this situation, where only Vegeta can fight him, and no one can beat him.
But is the data correct?
17 was a little surprised that Vegeta was stronger than the data given to him.
The same can go for Cell.
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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:23 am

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
In a one on one, yes.
But with a group of them, I would think Cell would be more focused on mowing them all down(just in case they came up with something clever). Even then,
it's up to the last man standing to ask the question. That's if he asks or even care's anymore, seeing all his friends dead around him, he would be more focused on how he's going to get out of this one alive.
He has data on how strong they're supposed to be, so he wouldn't be worried about any of them. All any of them would have to do is ask "who are you?" and he'd probably tell them. Then they'll tell him that they destroyed the androids. I find it hard to believe that none of them would ask that question at any point in this interaction. He'll happily talk your ear off about it if he thinks he has the upper hand, which he will in this situation, where only Vegeta can fight him, and no one can beat him.
But is the data correct?
17 was a little surprised that Vegeta was stronger than the data given to him.
The same can go for Cell.
His data is outdated by this point, but he wouldn't know that when first encountering them. So if they asked him about his past then, he'd tell them.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:43 am

Well in the end, anything can happen in this little alternate universe we created.

The way I see it, Cell kills everyone and Goku saves the day like he always does.
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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by ThePrinceOfSaiyans » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:09 pm

SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Well in the end, anything can happen in this little alternate universe we created.

The way I see it, Cell kills everyone and Goku saves the day like he always does.
Or, if Vegeta battled Goku after defeating the androids and killed him.

Then Cell would kill everyone and then destroy Earth... Could possibly be History of Trunks again but with only Cell instead of both 17 and 18, but doubt it since Cell seemed pretty set on blowing up Earth once his competition was gone.

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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:21 pm

ThePrinceOfSaiyans wrote:
SSJ God Gogeta wrote:Well in the end, anything can happen in this little alternate universe we created.

The way I see it, Cell kills everyone and Goku saves the day like he always does.
Or, if Vegeta battled Goku after defeating the androids and killed him.

Then Cell would kill everyone and then destroy Earth... Could possibly be History of Trunks again but with only Cell instead of both 17 and 18, but doubt it since Cell seemed pretty set on blowing up Earth once his competition was gone.
But would he have enough time.
He would wan't to fight Goku at his best to prove he is stronger, so he would wait till he got better.
Cell would arrive before then, so Vegeta would need to survive Cell.
And I doubt he would do any better than he did against 18.
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Re: What would vegeta have done if he beats the androids?

Post by mAcChaos » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:59 pm

Cell doesn't seem to destroy things unnecessarily before he becomes Perfect. It's only when he loses his single minded goal of attaining perfection that he starts amusing himself with wanton destruction. So if he found out the androids were destroyed he'd probably just leave the timeline in disgust.
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