Ah, yes, the last good thing about Bleach before it went to shit in my eyes. But, you know I'm just talking about the form design itself and not that whole mumbo jumbo. I wished Goku's God form looked like THAT, but with a cloak, the hair of a SSJ3/4 variation, and no bandages. Not an overly simplistic Kaioken knockoff.fadeddreams5 wrote:
Surprised you put that picture of Ichigo up and didn't mention the similarities between God Ki and what they have in Bleach. When Aizen reached a transcendent mode using the hogyoku, nobody--hollow or shinigami--could sense his power because he reached a dimension of his own. Only Ichigo, having also become a transcendent, could compete with him.
Bleach did this shit first.
Does God Ki bug anyone else?
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Lol here is what i dont understand, so you want characters like beerus and whis to be defeated by any fodder or underdog that fights them? their called god for a reason!!! Its silly when in manga/anime people call them selves gods only shorty after when they get easily defeated. God in DBZ is already and over hyped statement to call yourself. but if we are talking like specific gods, such as the gods of destruction it would make sense to make them superior not just in power but in hierarchy aswell. give them this type of godly ki that makes it impossible to compete against them unless you also have that god ki too.
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Re: Does God Ki bug anyone else?
Where are you getting that from? I nor I believe anyone in this thread said anything about having the others fight Beerus or Whis. My point is that introducing something like God Ki and making it so vastly important feels against DBZ. You can perform the same lesson with Goku without giving him some special Ki.GokuRules987 wrote:Lol here is what i dont understand, so you want characters like beerus and whis to be defeated by any fodder or underdog that fights them? their called god for a reason!!! Its silly when in manga/anime people call them selves gods only shorty after when they get easily defeated. God in DBZ is already and over hyped statement to call yourself. but if we are talking like specific gods, such as the gods of destruction it would make sense to make them superior not just in power but in hierarchy aswell. give them this type of godly ki that makes it impossible to compete against them unless you also have that god ki too.
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mystic Gohan and Perfect Cell did it before them lol.EXBadguy wrote:Ah, yes, the last good thing about Bleach before it went to shit in my eyes. But, you know I'm just talking about the form design itself and not that whole mumbo jumbo. I wished Goku's God form looked like THAT, but with a cloak, the hair of a SSJ3/4 variation, and no bandages. Not an overly simplistic Kaioken knockoff.fadeddreams5 wrote:
Surprised you put that picture of Ichigo up and didn't mention the similarities between God Ki and what they have in Bleach. When Aizen reached a transcendent mode using the hogyoku, nobody--hollow or shinigami--could sense his power because he reached a dimension of his own. Only Ichigo, having also become a transcendent, could compete with him.
Bleach did this shit first.
Re: Does God Ki bug anyone else?
Mystic Gohan and Vegetto aren't underdogs. They were even created by gods. Goku could've become a god way back at the end of Dragonball by taking Kami's offer.GokuRules987 wrote:Lol here is what i dont understand, so you want characters like beerus and whis to be defeated by any fodder or underdog that fights them?
To ditch all that and go "NOOOOO we have to hold hands around ~*~*~*~*~*~*gokuuuuuuu*~*~*~*~*~*~ and ONLY THEN WILL GOKU BE ABLE TO FIGHT BECAUSE GOKU GOKUGOKUGOKUGOKUGOKUGOKU IS A GOOOOOOOD" is horseshit.
Or, as I said once:
Rocketman wrote:A god could resign his throne and-TheMightyOzaru wrote:How else would SSJ God be formed?
Well, how about a technique from a g-
It could be a legend feared by all-
Maybe a divine weapon like the Blade of Olym-
A gift from the King of the G-
Uh...secret magical godly items that-
Alright, I give. Take it from here, Yugi.
Uh, you don't have enough tributes there.
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Re: Does God Ki bug anyone else?
That pretty much sums up some of my problems with God Ki. There were plenty of other options available but none were used in order to put this new magical ritual in and a boring retcon!Rocketman wrote:Mystic Gohan and Vegetto aren't underdogs. They were even created by gods. Goku could've become a god way back at the end of Dragonball by taking Kami's offer.GokuRules987 wrote:Lol here is what i dont understand, so you want characters like beerus and whis to be defeated by any fodder or underdog that fights them?
To ditch all that and go "NOOOOO we have to hold hands around ~*~*~*~*~*~*gokuuuuuuu*~*~*~*~*~*~ and ONLY THEN WILL GOKU BE ABLE TO FIGHT BECAUSE GOKU GOKUGOKUGOKUGOKUGOKUGOKU IS A GOOOOOOOD" is horseshit.
Or, as I said once:
Rocketman wrote:A god could resign his throne and-TheMightyOzaru wrote:How else would SSJ God be formed?
Well, how about a technique from a g-
It could be a legend feared by all-
Maybe a divine weapon like the Blade of Olym-
A gift from the King of the G-
Uh...secret magical godly items that-
Alright, I give. Take it from here, Yugi.
Uh, you don't have enough tributes there.
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Re: Does God Ki bug anyone else?
Well would you rather have dbz be important on new super saiyan levels? Godly ki is an interesting concept too have but it doesnt nessesary makes you stronger than any person with normal ki, vegeta was able to hurt beerus even though he had no godly ki. thats shows that characters that have godly ki can still be hurt by normal ki users, so i dont think it makes it that important.voltlunok wrote:Where are you getting that from? I nor I believe anyone in this thread said anything about having the others fight Beerus or Whis. My point is that introducing something like God Ki and making it so vastly important feels against DBZ. You can perform the same lesson with Goku without giving him some special Ki.GokuRules987 wrote:Lol here is what i dont understand, so you want characters like beerus and whis to be defeated by any fodder or underdog that fights them? their called god for a reason!!! Its silly when in manga/anime people call them selves gods only shorty after when they get easily defeated. God in DBZ is already and over hyped statement to call yourself. but if we are talking like specific gods, such as the gods of destruction it would make sense to make them superior not just in power but in hierarchy aswell. give them this type of godly ki that makes it impossible to compete against them unless you also have that god ki too.
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Re: Does God Ki bug anyone else?
My take on God Ki is that it increases or brings out the spiritual component of one's ki. I would compare genki, youki, spiritual ki, etc. to stats for an RPG character. Getting God Ki would be like getting a sudden increase in Stamina or Vitality, while other characters are only relying on Attack and Defense. So it could be that "God Ki" is not an entirely different class of ki but rather a sub-category of ki that is unnaturally high. This special component could also provide extra benefits such as masking the power level of the user.
Other Gods could have higher than average spiritual ki as well, though maybe to a lesser degree. But the rest of their stats would negligible which is why Goku could turn the tides on them. He wouldn't be able to do that if "God Ki" always trumped normal ki. Also, Goku isn't a God anymore. It was made pretty clear that even though he didn't lose the strength, he lost the form. Yet he can still fight Beerus.
Other Gods could have higher than average spiritual ki as well, though maybe to a lesser degree. But the rest of their stats would negligible which is why Goku could turn the tides on them. He wouldn't be able to do that if "God Ki" always trumped normal ki. Also, Goku isn't a God anymore. It was made pretty clear that even though he didn't lose the strength, he lost the form. Yet he can still fight Beerus.
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The concept itself isnt original in bleach though, its just logical. Humans cannot sense or locate Gods themselves gives them cosmic awareness. The only issue I have with DB is that God ki has no unique attributes to it that changes the character beyond aesthetics. There isnt anything that really seperate it.fadeddreams5 wrote:Bleach did this shit first.
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Re: Does God Ki bug anyone else?
I think what I would have liked out of god ki is if it was a dividing force, those who have god ki cannot interact with those who do not have god ki. Thus Beerus would have to discard his god ki to interact with Goku. However that's just what I'd want out of it...it would be a cool moment as a god comes down from upon high to challenge Goku.SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:The concept itself isnt original in bleach though, its just logical. Humans cannot sense or locate Gods themselves gives them cosmic awareness. The only issue I have with DB is that God ki has no unique attributes to it that changes the character beyond aesthetics. There isnt anything that really seperate it.fadeddreams5 wrote:Bleach did this shit first.
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