Unless it were an incredibly advanced mutation that is pretty much impossible. It would mean that all of the Saiyan's genetic make-up would have to be altered for that to work.GokuRules987 wrote:Thats why I'm talking about this being a complete 2 different saiyan races, one saiyan race is normal saiyan race and the other saiyan race is pure super saiyan race in their baseform. The normal saiyan race is often viewed as inferior race by super saiyan race and the only way normal saiyans can beat super saiyans is if they find away to unlock that power by anger and transformation and becoming a super saiyan while super saiyan race doesnt need to do any of that because their already naturally strong.Hitiro wrote:Wouldn't that be impossible? To not have a base form would mean you lack every genetic element needed to be a Saiyan without a base form. Thus you would just be an incoherent mess like Bio Broly. The only difference between a base Saiyan and a SSJ is the SSJ gene. You can't not have a base form without removing everything that makes you, you.GokuRules987 wrote:Yes I'm talking about an SSJ that doesnt have a base form. Being born as a raw Super saiyan with super saiyan being your base form.
Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
Any Saiyan that stays in SSJ forever.GokuRules987 wrote:Who's going to die of ki loss?Doctor. wrote:They'd probably die of Ki loss sooner or later.dbgtFO wrote:I'd imagine you can if you were the son/daughter of a potara merged Saiyan, who himself was "born" in Super Saiyan eg. instead of heeding Elder Kaioshin's advice Goku and Vegeta turn SS before merging and Vegetto is born as a Super Saiyan, making that his normal form.
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
But hes not a Saiyan, hes a pure born Super Saiyan, his body and genetics are strong enough for him too exist as a super saiyan being his base form. We think of super saiyan being just a powered up transformation but what if super saiyan was actually a complete new race of saiyans that have a base form of a super saiyan.Doctor. wrote:
Any Saiyan that stays in SSJ forever.
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DBZGTKOSDH
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
No, Broli was born with the ability to transform into a Super Saiyan from birth, he wasn't born as a Super Saiyan.rereboy wrote:Broly was basically a SSJ from birth. He didn't have to achieve it, it was there from the start.
Actually, I don't think it was ever confirmed that he was born with the ability. He was just born with an extremely high battle power, and insane.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Which is basically the same idea, since it means that he didn't have to achieve it, it was there from the start, unless you want a SSJ that, for some reason, doesn't have a base form (which doesn't make much sense, honestly, nor do I see the point of it).DBZGTKOSDH wrote:No, Broli was born with the ability to transform into a Super Saiyan from birth, he wasn't born as a Super Saiyan.rereboy wrote:Broly was basically a SSJ from birth. He didn't have to achieve it, it was there from the start.
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
No, the OP is saying that if it's possible to be born as a SS, meaning that the Saiyan would get out of his mother's body with golden hair, blue eyes, and x50 more powerful. By your logic, every Saiyan is born as an Oozaru... which isn't correct. Being born as a Super Saiyan/Oozaru/whatever =/= being born with the ability to turn Super Saiyan/Oozaru/whatever.rereboy wrote:Which is basically the same idea, since it means that he didn't have to achieve it, it was there from the start, unless you want a SSJ that, for some reason, doesn't have a base form (which doesn't make much sense, honestly, nor do I see the point of it).
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
You didn't state anything I hadn't included in my post and that hadn't already been clarified in the first page of the topic.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:No, the OP is saying that if it's possible to be born as a SS, meaning that the Saiyan would get out of his mother's body with golden hair, blue eyes, and x50 more powerful. By your logic, every Saiyan is born as an Oozaru... which isn't correct. Being born as a Super Saiyan/Oozaru/whatever =/= being born with the ability to turn Super Saiyan/Oozaru/whatever.rereboy wrote:Which is basically the same idea, since it means that he didn't have to achieve it, it was there from the start, unless you want a SSJ that, for some reason, doesn't have a base form (which doesn't make much sense, honestly, nor do I see the point of it).
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
Had Toriyama continued DBZ and gave Goku and Vegeta another kid I'm sure that would have been the next step he was going. Goku and Vegeta had MSSJ till it was more or less a base form so having kids after that could equal permanent super saiyan. Untrained ssjs produced MSSJ Goten and Trunks so why not?
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
Actually i was thinking of this mutation existing in like 20-30 thousands years after the earth becomes populated by saiyans who are goku and vegeta descendants.miguelnuva1 wrote:Had Toriyama continued DBZ and gave Goku and Vegeta another kid I'm sure that would have been the next step he was going. Goku and Vegeta had MSSJ till it was more or less a base form so having kids after that could equal permanent super saiyan. Untrained ssjs produced MSSJ Goten and Trunks so why not?
Now I am going to explain in detail how this whole mutations works. Well first able you need to know how is the baby or life is created.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJAQX760VY
basically when you watch the video during the stage of the fetus the embryo missreads the saiyan gene with the super saiyan transformation gene making the fetus and the unborn saiyan baby form thru a super saiyan dna so when the saiyan baby become born, the biggest different you see is that it has blonde hair, blue eyes, its strength, durability is 50 times stronger of a normal saiyan baby and basically the super saiyan becomes the base form of the new born saiyan. this type of traits evolves thru time making the future saiyan become born as a super saiyan's being their base form.
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
Has anyone thought about the poor mothers in all these hypotheticals?
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"Honey! Come here! He's kicking!"
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Lord Tirek: How many, little princess?
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Re: Is it possible to be born as a super saiyan?
He already went there with Pan. Or very, very close to it.miguelnuva1 wrote:Had Toriyama continued DBZ and gave Goku and Vegeta another kid I'm sure that would have been the next step he was going. Goku and Vegeta had MSSJ till it was more or less a base form so having kids after that could equal permanent super saiyan. Untrained ssjs produced MSSJ Goten and Trunks so why not?