Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

[Gyt Kaliba]

Whoa, easy, easy. I think you might have taken my post a bit more combative than I meant it to be. ^_^; I was mostly poking fun on the whole release order/intended order controversy with Narnia. Personally I actually did used to keep them in the release order back when I did have individual copies, though at the time I was unaware of any other ordering, and it even had numbers on the side of the books. Now with the collected volume though, I again don't really have much choice, and I do tend to at least read them in chronological order, so...it works well enough, IMO.

And as far as Jaco goes, I'm not entirely sure if I'm gonna leave it in front of DB or not, even though next time I read through it I'll probably do so in that order (how I feel about it after that will probably determine where it stays). As things stand now, Jaco being a normal volume and all of DB being VizBigs, it looks kind of...unbalanced...to have this one random volume sitting in front of all of those huge books.

Also definitely not suggesting any kind of 'intended reading' thing from Toriyama, cuz I doubt that sort of thing is something he'd ever even think about anyway.

[Gaffer Tape]

No, no, no. I'm not being combative at all. I was hoping my fanny would make it clear that I'm just playing around too, but I suspected it might not travel well in text. Don't get me wrong. It is a subject I am very passionate about and could talk at length about (along with misusing the word prequel), and everything I said is something I sincerely believe. It does drive me crazy when "revisionist history" is applied to fictional works. But you and I are as cool as frozen gravy, baby.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Ahh, it was me who mistook the tone then. My bad.

I admit it's not something I generally think too deeply about, though I do love reading about it (at least in relation to things I'm a fan of), so I've no doubt you'd talk circles around me with ease. I think for me a lot of it just depends on how I feel about it with a series in general. With Narnia, something I tend to only re-read once every few years, and the fact that it's all in one big book that I don't want to have to hop around in, I've just went with what's easier with my particular volume there. With Dragon Ball/Jaco here though, I'm going to attempt reading it with that at the start, perhaps, but it'll be easy enough to just swap it out for the back end of the franchise too.

...and to get further back on topic I guess, Dr. Slump I just end up viewing as it's own separate thing aside from the crossover bits. I guess technically I could put it in front of Dragon Ball since it came first, but my organization/shelving method tends to go by a mixture of favorite author/favorite series/genre. All my Toriyama stuff is in front with DB leading the charge, Katsura stuff comes next with I"s since it's my favorite rather than Video Girl Ai which came first, etc. etc.

[eledoremassis02]

Oh, and I also like to group author's material together, so Sand Land and Cowa! are sitting there at the end past Slump too.

I tend to do that as well! Even with movies, though I usually use leading actor

Seems like I'm doing 2 version, Japanese and english now. I didnt intend to get Jaco in english but I like it too much everything is free but I have to save my points to get $5 amazon giftcards so getting Slump and the 3-in-1 dragonballs will take a while hahah

[The Tori-bot]

My copy of Jaco hasn't arrived yet, but when it does I'll be putting it at the end of my DB manga shelf. Release order 4 lyfe. I think it's interesting to hear the different ways people do arrange this kind of stuff, though (e.g. Star Wars and its assorted spinoffs, Metal Gear, Tolkien books/movies).

[eledoremassis02]

It is, I like seeing peoples collections

I just bought the Yo Son Goku manga and will probably put it with the other Japanese volumes in respective order. Stinks that that will probably never get translated. But I want to collect the whole universe in manga form, where available. Not sure about animangas though (battle of Gods, Fukkatsu no F, ect) >.>

[The Tori-bot]

Not sure about animangas though (battle of Gods, Fukkatsu no F, ect) >.>

I wouldn't bother. They're redundantly redundant. I wouldn't even say they're strictly manga, since nobody drew them. They're just screenshot galleries with text, or movie storybooks if you're being generous. If I were you I'd spend my money on more Dr. Slump instead.

[Dayspring]

The main story of Jaco is set 10 years before the reunion in the last chapter of Jaco. That reunion takes place after Bulma found two Dragonballs but before she meets Goku. Therefore, Jaco is 10 years prior to Dragonball.

The Red Ribbon crossover story takes place one year after Dr. Slump ends. And to those saying it's an alternate universe version: the characters reference that their manga has ended and they're excited to be in a manga again. Dr. Slump takes place in The Eastern Country of the Dragonball Universe, specifically in its fictional island chain version of Japan (in Penguin Village on Gengoro island). 1980 of the Eastern Country's calendar converts to Age 745 for the rest of the world, IIRC.

In short:
-Jaco is set in Age 739
-Dr. Slump is set in Age 745 to 749
-Dragonball starts in 749 (crossing over with Slump in 750)

[eledoremassis02]

INot sure about animangas though (battle of Gods, Fukkatsu no F, ect) >.>

I wouldn't bother. They're redundantly redundant. I wouldn't even say they're strictly manga, since nobody drew them. They're just screenshot galleries with text, or movie storybooks if you're being generous. If I were you I'd spend my money on more Dr. Slump instead.

I like the way you think hahah. I just realize I can add DVDs with my books as they're about the same dimensions as a viz cover. Just need to find a Battle of Gods cover for my dvd...I just have the disc

Fooled around with it a bit, but debating putting the BOG and FnoF on the shelve. I wish I had one real long shelf!

[Lord Beerus]

Where did you get that large scaled, pixelated version of Goku from?

[eledoremassis02]

Spoiler:

Where did you get that large scaled, pixelated version of Goku from?

My sister got it for me at an Anime convention

[sayian_nation_]

The main story of Jaco is set 10 years before the reunion in the last chapter of Jaco. That reunion takes place after Bulma found two Dragonballs but before she meets Goku. Therefore, Jaco is 10 years prior to Dragonball.

The Red Ribbon crossover story takes place one year after Dr. Slump ends. And to those saying it's an alternate universe version: the characters reference that their manga has ended and they're excited to be in a manga again. Dr. Slump takes place in The Eastern Country of the Dragonball Universe, specifically in its fictional island chain version of Japan (in Penguin Village on Gengoro island). 1980 of the Eastern Country's calendar converts to Age 745 for the rest of the world, IIRC.

In short:
-Jaco is set in Age 739
-Dr. Slump is set in Age 745 to 749
-Dragonball starts in 749 (crossing over with Slump in 750)

I have a question for you. In the Dragonball series, Goku and even Mercenary Tao state they have never heard of this place, that it wasn't on the map. What is that supposed to mean?

[Lord Beerus]

Spoiler:

Where did you get that large scaled, pixelated version of Goku from?

My sister got it for me at an Anime convention

Damn, you're so lucky. I'd kill for something like that.

[eledoremassis02]

https://www.etsy.com/search?q=Pixel%20goku

They're might be more, but this is a good site to search of them

[Dayspring]

The main story of Jaco is set 10 years before the reunion in the last chapter of Jaco. That reunion takes place after Bulma found two Dragonballs but before she meets Goku. Therefore, Jaco is 10 years prior to Dragonball.

The Red Ribbon crossover story takes place one year after Dr. Slump ends. And to those saying it's an alternate universe version: the characters reference that their manga has ended and they're excited to be in a manga again. Dr. Slump takes place in The Eastern Country of the Dragonball Universe, specifically in its fictional island chain version of Japan (in Penguin Village on Gengoro island). 1980 of the Eastern Country's calendar converts to Age 745 for the rest of the world, IIRC.

In short:
-Jaco is set in Age 739
-Dr. Slump is set in Age 745 to 749
-Dragonball starts in 749 (crossing over with Slump in 750)

I have a question for you. In the Dragonball series, Goku and even Mercenary Tao state they have never heard of this place, that it wasn't on the map. What is that supposed to mean?

I don't recall what scene you're talking about. However, most of the countries named after real-world countries are actually represented as being very small island chains to the far east. They're very small and isolated even from the rest of The Eastern Country, which is why they often use different currencies and use the same calendar system that we do (meaning they have their own calendar system). Omori knows of the rest of the Dragonball world because he's near the capital of the country, which is part of the large super-continent that makes up the Dragonball world map.

To put things into perspective, Gengoro Island is to the rest of Dragonball Japan as Maui is to the rest of Hawaii. Meanwhile, Dragonball Japan is to Dragonball's Eastern Country as Hawaii is to the rest of the US. Since many real-life world maps don't bother to feature Hawaii, it's just as unlikely that a DB world map would feature DB Japan, let alone Gengoro Island specifically. Penguin Village (where Doctor Slump takes place) is one of two (or three?) villages on Gengoro Island. Fun fact: the adjacent town of Agéha is where Detective Tomato takes place.

[medama_oyaji]

I have all of my Dragon Ball on one shelf (because it fills the whole shelf, and then a second shelf that is Dr. Slump followed by all of the Toriyama one-shots in publication order. If physical space weren't a factor, I suppose I'd probably organize it: Dr. Slump, Dragon Ball, One-Shots (including Jaco). Chronological publication order means more to me than in-universe story order, I guess. But I like to keep series together, so I clump all the one-shots together instead of having them amongst the Slump & DB.

[Darknat]

The main story of Jaco is set 10 years before the reunion in the last chapter of Jaco. That reunion takes place after Bulma found two Dragonballs but before she meets Goku. Therefore, Jaco is 10 years prior to Dragonball.

The Red Ribbon crossover story takes place one year after Dr. Slump ends. And to those saying it's an alternate universe version: the characters reference that their manga has ended and they're excited to be in a manga again. Dr. Slump takes place in The Eastern Country of the Dragonball Universe, specifically in its fictional island chain version of Japan (in Penguin Village on Gengoro island). 1980 of the Eastern Country's calendar converts to Age 745 for the rest of the world, IIRC.

In short:
-Jaco is set in Age 739
-Dr. Slump is set in Age 745 to 749
-Dragonball starts in 749 (crossing over with Slump in 750)

I have a question for you. In the Dragonball series, Goku and even Mercenary Tao state they have never heard of this place, that it wasn't on the map. What is that supposed to mean?

I don't recall what scene you're talking about. However, most of the countries named after real-world countries are actually represented as being very small island chains to the far east. They're very small and isolated even from the rest of The Eastern Country, which is why they often use different currencies and use the same calendar system that we do (meaning they have their own calendar system). Omori knows of the rest of the Dragonball world because he's near the capital of the country, which is part of the large super-continent that makes up the Dragonball world map.

To put things into perspective, Gengoro Island is to the rest of Dragonball Japan as Maui is to the rest of Hawaii. Meanwhile, Dragonball Japan is to Dragonball's Eastern Country as Hawaii is to the rest of the US. Since many real-life world maps don't bother to feature Hawaii, it's just as unlikely that a DB world map would feature DB Japan, let alone Gengoro Island specifically. Penguin Village (where Doctor Slump takes place) is one of two (or three?) villages on Gengoro Island. Fun fact: the adjacent town of Agéha is where Detective Tomato takes place.

Since we are talking about the chronology and all, in which age does Dr Slump Returns Just for a Little While take place? I know Turbo is older than in Dragon Ball, and he even got a sister now (Nitro?). My guess is that it happens probably after the 22 tenkaichi or before the 23... but I may be wrong. Also... any information on when Jiya and Sachi-chan take place?

[Dayspring]

Since we are talking about the chronology and all, in which age does Dr Slump Returns Just for a Little While take place? I know Turbo is older than in Dragon Ball, and he even got a sister now (Nitro?). My guess is that it happens probably after the 22 tenkaichi or before the 23... but I may be wrong. Also... any information on when Jiya and Sachi-chan take place?

I would say it doesn't, since Returns is a sequel to the remake anime and not to the original anime or original manga. Toriyama also had no involvement whatsoever and the two one-shot spinoff/sequel chapters that he made contradict its existence as well.

The remake anime is set in 1997 to 1999 instead of 1980 to 1984. It also has an alternate crossover with Goku and members of the Red Ribbon army. 1997 would convert to Age 762, for what it's worth, but it would make more sense to say that the readjustment to be made is that 1997 is equal to a year prior to this alternate DB Universe's 748.

Meanwhile, Nitro would have been born at least a year afterward. Also, there's a chapter of the original manga that has a character visiting 10 years in the future. When Turbo is 10, behind him are Nitro (unnamed at this point) as a very young girl and another brother who is a toddler. This means 10 years after Slump is equivalent to five or more years after Returns, so Returns is set maximum five years after Slump.

As for Jiya and Sachie-chan, we don't know specifically what Ages they're set in, but we do know that Jiya is the first Galactic Patrol manga, because it's how the GP finds out about Earth and its culture. This would mean it's set prior to Jaco, in Age 739 at the absolute latest (that assumes it's in the same year as Jaco, which is unlikely). Meanwhile, Sachie-Chan takes place not long after the 26th or 27th Budokai, because Zarid was a recent winner of a children's division and we know the children's division was introduced in the 24th and won by Videl, while Trunks won the 25th and the children's division was abolished as of either the 27th or 28th. That would mean it takes place in either 778 or 781, IIRC.

On the note of Slump and Jaco-related chronology:
-Today's Highlight Island stars the Penguin Village's Junior High students when they're in Kindergarten. Japanese Kindergartens are for when kids are ages 3-6, so this means it's set 7-10 years prior to Slump. That works out to being in Age 735 at the earliest, Age 738 at the latest.

-Mysterious Rain Jack (which introduces some of the Penguin Village Police Force and the Thunder Ogre) is set in 1978, so Age 743.

-Detective Tomato (which introduces Kenta Kuraku, the alias of Suppaman) is set 1979, so Age 744.

-Kintoki is set prior to Jaco, so latest Age 739.

-Hetappi (which may or may not share continuity with Slump by co-starring Toribot) is set in 1982, so Age 747.

-Rocky (the first sequel/spinoff of Dr Slump) is set in 1989, so Age 754.

-Dr Mashirito and Abale-chan (second spinoff of Dr Slump) is set in 2007, so Age 772.

[Insertclevername]

When I eventually do buy the Dr. Slump manga, I'll probably put it before my Dragon Ball volumes since it was released before it. As for it's timeline placement, I acknowledge it as a parallel universe or some kind of pocket dimension (or whatever the closest term may be). That's mostly inspired by the trippiness of the Gokuu and Blue chase scene before they arrive at Penguin Village in the anime.

[Darknat]

Since we are talking about the chronology and all, in which age does Dr Slump Returns Just for a Little While take place? I know Turbo is older than in Dragon Ball, and he even got a sister now (Nitro?). My guess is that it happens probably after the 22 tenkaichi or before the 23... but I may be wrong. Also... any information on when Jiya and Sachi-chan take place?

I would say it doesn't, since Returns is a sequel to the remake anime and not to the original anime or original manga. Toriyama also had no involvement whatsoever and the two one-shot spinoff/sequel chapters that he made contradict its existence as well.

The remake anime is set in 1997 to 1999 instead of 1980 to 1984. It also has an alternate crossover with Goku and members of the Red Ribbon army. 1997 would convert to Age 762, for what it's worth, but it would make more sense to say that the readjustment to be made is that 1997 is equal to a year prior to this alternate DB Universe's 748.

Meanwhile, Nitro would have been born at least a year afterward. Also, there's a chapter of the original manga that has a character visiting 10 years in the future. When Turbo is 10, behind him are Nitro (unnamed at this point) as a very young girl and another brother who is a toddler. This means 10 years after Slump is equivalent to five or more years after Returns, so Returns is set maximum five years after Slump.

As for Jiya and Sachie-chan, we don't know specifically what Ages they're set in, but we do know that Jiya is the first Galactic Patrol manga, because it's how the GP finds out about Earth and its culture. This would mean it's set prior to Jaco, in Age 739 at the absolute latest (that assumes it's in the same year as Jaco, which is unlikely). Meanwhile, Sachie-Chan takes place not long after the 26th or 27th Budokai, because Zarid was a recent winner of a children's division and we know the children's division was introduced in the 24th and won by Videl, while Trunks won the 25th and the children's division was abolished as of either the 27th or 28th. That would mean it takes place in either 778 or 781, IIRC.

On the note of Slump and Jaco-related chronology:
-Today's Highlight Island stars the Penguin Village's Junior High students when they're in Kindergarten. Japanese Kindergartens are for when kids are ages 3-6, so this means it's set 7-10 years prior to Slump. That works out to being in Age 735 at the earliest, Age 738 at the latest.

-Mysterious Rain Jack (which introduces some of the Penguin Village Police Force and the Thunder Ogre) is set in 1978, so Age 743.

-Detective Tomato (which introduces Kenta Kuraku, the alias of Suppaman) is set 1979, so Age 744.

-Kintoki is set prior to Jaco, so latest Age 739.

-Hetappi (which may or may not share continuity with Slump by co-starring Toribot) is set in 1982, so Age 747.

-Rocky (the first sequel/spinoff of Dr Slump) is set in 1989, so Age 754.

-Dr Mashirito and Abale-chan (second spinoff of Dr Slump) is set in 2007, so Age 772.

Thanks for all the info.

A few things however. I doubt dr Slump Returns is a manga based on the second anime since for one it was published on VJump on 94 and the new manga was shown on TV around 97. Also, Arale and friends designs and color schemes are the ones from the original anime series.

Also I have read both Today's Highlight Island and Tomato, and I think the characters are not the same ones as the ones from Dr Slump (they do however share the same design). But on Tomato, the guy with Suppaman's design is a criminal and has no personality traits that link him to his Dr Slump incarnation, and on Today's Highlight Island the characters, if I remember right, have different names.

Also, do you have Mysterious Rain Jack? (or Awawawa World?). I would like to have access to both those mangas (either physical or scanned) but besides being self published on numbers of Bird Land, I don't think they have ever seen another official publication.