Your pros and cons about each transformation

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Re: Your pros and cons about each transformation

Post by Doctor. » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:06 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Doctor. wrote: - I don't like, or see how it makes sense, for muscle mass to decrease
Do you apply this same criticism to Freeza and Cell when they go from their 3rd and Semi-Perfect forms, respectively, to their Final and Perfect forms?
Seeing as how the design changes completely, no, I never really questioned it. I just found it awkward that a power increase is exemplified with not the increase, but the decrease of muscle mass (and, y'know, the red hair and stuff).

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Re: Your pros and cons about each transformation

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 5:38 am

Saiga wrote:Yeah, and there's no significant downside to it. You've never got an incentive not to try and go for God, because worst case scenario it runs out and you're left in the state you were before going God, no net downside at all.

Best case scenario you get to keep most of the power anyway and you're now forever broken.
Agreed. It's super exploitable, and anyone can use it. True it's unlikely for past saiyans as most were evil, but in this day and age, it's super convenient. Also makes the saiyans even more into some demi-god/god species. What about other races? Why are saiyans the ones who can become gods? Why can't any other race become gods too? Are saiyans the descendants of gods?
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For what reason would they not just let everyone be a god? Goku and Vegeta want their kids to be strong. They have no good reason to not let everyone be a god. Might as well since the form takes a few moments out of everyone's schedule. It's not like they need to drink poisoned water, individually go to an old guy, or wait over 24 hours with another old guy. They just need to spend like 1 minute on each person. Considering how Gotenks in a week accomplished what took Goku years to do, I'd say any of the next gen could hold onto the power no problem. That's why SSJ God is so flawed. It's a contrived and easy power up, that even Tarble can be a force to be reckoned with, without doing anything or having any hidden power.
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Re: Your pros and cons about each transformation

Post by Saiga » Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:10 am

Why would anyone find a talking crotch a plus? That's like saying yes to pussy with teeth. It's weird :lol:.
Hey, Vagina Dentata has been done in numerous folk tales and fictional works. Don't knock the talking crotch!
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Re: Your pros and cons about each transformation

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:06 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Doctor. wrote: - I don't like, or see how it makes sense, for muscle mass to decrease
Do you apply this same criticism to Freeza and Cell when they go from their 3rd and Semi-Perfect forms, respectively, to their Final and Perfect forms?
Seeing as how the design changes completely, no, I never really questioned it. I just found it awkward that a power increase is exemplified with not the increase, but the decrease of muscle mass (and, y'know, the red hair and stuff).
What about SSJ2 coming off of the Grade forms?
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Re: Your pros and cons about each transformation

Post by Doctor. » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:16 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:What about SSJ2 coming off of the Grade forms?
SSJ2 still increased muscle over the normal SSJ form. The grades are different, seeing as how the increase in muscle was specifically noted to be a downfall of the transformations.

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Re: Your pros and cons about each transformation

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:18 pm

Saiga wrote:
Why would anyone find a talking crotch a plus? That's like saying yes to pussy with teeth. It's weird :lol:.
Hey, Vagina Dentata has been done in numerous folk tales and fictional works. Don't knock the talking crotch!
I don't want to see your porn.
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